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I like that we have choices, and of course endless debate... Kinda like a Campfire get together during the hunt.
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I would like to have a 223 or 222 "walking rifle" in an accurate bolt gun. No interest in a 22-250. Not sure what I would do with one but seems like would be fun to have.
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22LR...it ain't no elephant killer!
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For me, I'd say the top five most overrated cartridges should have "AI" after their name. I'd agree if you were talking only about larger caliber rounds like, say a 338-06 Improved and even the 30/06 Improved as you're not making a significant enough change to the powder capacity. On the other hand, the 243, 257 Roberts, 280 Remington and a few others do pick up some more FPS, not to mention greatly improved case life. If you don't reload, however, save your $$$$. The largest "Improvement" is case life.
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That read like an "oh crap I've an hour before my deadline" article. I suppose I'll give the guy another chance to prove himself, but he shouldn't be proud signing his name to this piece.
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It should of read 270x5.😀
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What's with all the folks from Texas hatin' on the .270? Y'all born here? I'm native born. I would never be without a .270. I think I'd sooner give up Mexican food, and hell, that's its own food group. Lotta misdirected anger issues, if you ask me. Just sayin'. 
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1. 7mm Remington Mag
2. 7mm Remington Mag
3. 7mm Remington Mag
4. 7mm Remington Mag
5. 7mm Remington Mag
and a close #6... 7mm Remington Mag
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243 Winchester 25-06 7mm rem mag 300 win mag 17 HMR... That's a much closer list.... Just swap out the 300 Win Mag for the 7x57mm The thought crossed my mind... 
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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I don't agree with the author one bit especially when it comes to the 223 and 270 wsm. The 223/5.56 is about the cheapest centerfire ammo that you can buy, the 270 wsm out performs the 270 and is more accurate, and yes I own rifles chambered in both calibers.
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The only rifle that "bit" me was 7mm Mag. a BSA CF2 was prone and crawled the stock. Still have the extra eyebrow. Not the rifle or cartridge, perhaps the nut behind.. One of life's lessons I guess. I did pass it on and never have had another 7mm Mag.
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It should of read 270x5.😀 The 30-06 wannabe... Yep. I love my Mdl 70FW 270 WSM, however.  (ducks and covers  ) The 300 Wby was a hotrod in its day and is still a great round for most all practical purposes. The powder manufacturers have loved it for Many years.
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I have and love all those listed except the 270 wsm....
Really....the 300 wby 220 swift and 223 overrated...what an idiot..
22-250 and 300 win are better because they fall short? What an idiot
I never found 1 single fault with 223....... What an IDIOT!!!
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Lets say we drop him off on Admiralty Island. He gets to choose a 375 HH or a 458 Win Mag in a model 70 safari classic. I wonder what he would choose?
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The .375 is the one to have there. Gobs of power with recoil light enough for rapid fire. I can get two hits with a .375 or one with the .458 in the same amount of time, and I've never seen the .375 suffer for want for slap effect on a brown bear.
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The only thing funnier than the article are some of the posts on this thread.  The lists of overrated cartridges are as entertaining as the one in the article.
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Yes, I said it. Look, the .223 works, and works well for most of its intended purposes. But, I truly believe if the U.S. Government hadn’t smiled upon it, the cartridge would have a small fraction of the followers it does today. Is the reason the military smiled on it the crux of his dislike? I guess he should have just over-rated the 30-06 and 308 Win while he was at it. Perhaps the 58 caliber percussion rifle as well...
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I knew when he listed the 300 Weatherby instead of the 30-378 Weatherby as his top overrated pick that the article was a joke.
My top 5 would be.
1.30-378 Weatherby
2.30-378 Weatherby
3.30-378 Weatherby
4.30-378 Weatherby
5. Anything with a Lazzeroni headstamp
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Personally, I am SHOCKED that any magazine would run a controversial article in an attempt to attract readers.
I am far less shocked that so many Campfire members have helped spread the word about this shocking article.
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