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antelope_sniper,



What do you do with the helium evidence scientific investigation discovered in deep rocks? These rocks have been dated by the amount of helium to be about 6,000 years old.

Another thoroughly debunked creationist claim.

antelope_sniper



Documentation please. Your empty faith is not sufficient to convince me, or others who have read the information. By the way I discovered all evolutionists are "debunked" by other evolutionists; the ones who don't agree with them.

You still haven't addressed the novas, fossils, mis-dated rocks (by millions of years), ocean sediments, etc.

It was a simple question only YOU can answer, and a yes or no fits in fine.

"Are you WILLING to believe that there is a spiritual dimension in the universe, and that we can connect to that dimension using only our thoughts?"

I take it for granted that will be all sorts of caveats attached to your answer, but a simple Yes,or No, answer is still possible.

This is a really interesting question. I am surprised nobody followed up on it. Is there a possibility of "life" in another dimension that we know very little if anything about?

What would Einstein say? Or even better, what would Larry Krauss say?

TF

Other Dimensions would be string theory, and Krauss doesn;t think very much about string theory.

It looks like you are trying toi set up a presuppositional argument. The problem is it begins with a flawed premise, and no, I will not grant you a flawed premise. If you want us to begin with the premise of a spiritual dimension, you need to first offer evidence for one.

AS, what is so hard to comprehend about the fact that if God gave all proof of His existence and proof of Heaven and Hell, all would opt for Heaven and it would end up full of asswholes. Then, it wouldnt be Heaven for anyone.

Sounds like a juror disbelieving eye-witnesses and forensic evidence "because I wasn't there and didn't see it myself."

I have documented, corroborated eye-witness evidence, but of course I'm not you.

No good, huh?

Figures!

Jesus says, "If they don't believe Moses and the prophets they will not believe even if someone rises from the dead."

AS posted:



"It looks like you are trying toi set up a presuppositional argument. The problem is it begins with a flawed premise, and no, I will not grant you a flawed premise. If you want us to begin with the premise of a spiritual dimension, you need to first offer evidence for one."



Nah, I don't have to give evidence for one and you don't have to believe it.

But, there is "another dimension" if you will. It likely existed before the creation of the earth. Perhaps even before the Big Bang. A "spirit" type of existence, perhaps without much sense of time and without a physical existence like we know it.

I can tell it to you and I can even explain a bit to you but I cannot understand it for you.

But since you "know" there is no "deity or deities" this is not relevant to you. But, you have been at least introduced to the idea.

TF



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Offering evidence will never satisfy those with their minds locked and hearts hardened. If it would, we could convert isis and their ilk, and save much suffering.

That dimension is reality. This one is temporal.

That dimension is reality. This one is temporal. [/quote



Likely and I would not be surprised if there wasn't "more going on" in that dimension than in this one.

All is not as it seems.

TF

So are you saying he really WANTS to send people to hell, just so heaven isn't so crowded??

What kind of love is that?

Really?

Because the names on the autographs are not who wrote them. How can you place a value on testimony when you don't even know who wrote it?

Nope. He wants all to come to Him, and quit being asswholes. He doesnt wsnt you to be an asswhole. He wants you in Heaven, because He loves you, but asswholes are not allowed. As i said, it wouldnt be Heaven.

So if you have a kid you love and it denies you are its father, and is a bumb, will not acknowledge you, and is a liar and thief, are you going to put that kid in the will And give it what you would the good kids who love and care for you?

He wont, because He isnt a sucker. He is just, though He still loves the wayward, as would most parents.

Many say they are looking for reasons to believe in Him. Instead, they look for reasons to not believe in Him.

antelope_sniper,



You remind me of the people who read reviews of the movie Expelled, No Intellegence Allowed instead of watching the movie. You need to read the Bible before you ask question like the above. God does not love everyone. God is Infinite. He offered the Gift of His Son for the redemption of all. If someone rejects His Gift of His Son He is Infinitely angry and Infinitely punishes them, eternally. God is NOT Inifinte from neutral to nice. God is Infinite. So when He is good by our standards He is great. When he is bad by our standards, He is terrible.
For those who love Him He will give more reason to love Him in eternity. For those who don't love Him He will give more reason not to in eternity.

Leviticus 20:23
"'Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nations which I shall drive out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them.'"

Psalm 5:4-5
"For You are not a God Who takes pleasure in wickedness; no evil dwells with You. The boastful shall not stand before Your eyes; You do hate all who do iniquity."

Psalm 11:5
"The LORD tests the righteous and the wicked, and the one who loves violence His soul hates."


Psalm 78:58-59
"For they provoked Him with their high places, and aroused His jealousy with their graven images. When God heard, He was filled with wrath and greatly abhorred Israel;"