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I too have been looking at the 4x16x42 ATACR, but 30 oz's and your pretty much tied to a rail to get 34mm rings add in another 7+ oz's and that puts you over 2 +pounds of scope ,rail and rings, hard to justify that much weight, Talley needs too make some LW's! smile

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Over two pounds of scope/mounts. That's a bit ridiculous IMO.

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So is chasing your tail by using Leupold.

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So in reality if you replace a Leupold 3.5x10x40 and Talley LW's with the setup I mentioned you will add 21oz's overall.......? is can you live with the extra 21 0z's smile

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For a scope that works? yes

I still use a lot of Leupolds, but I'm done with them on rifles that I constantly dial in with and/or use for big game hunting.

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If you want a scope that is bulletproof than the 21 oz trade off is just something to get use to and I agree I want the most dependable scope I can get, I wonder how much weight it would take to get a Leupy as dependable as a NF?

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Hmm iron sights. Solid. Light smile
Really - a Lot of game has dropped w a variety of glass - other than NF

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That's equivalent to saying that a lot of game has been dropped with rocks. It means nothing. Yes, lots of animals have been killed with rifles having Leupolds mounted. That's not in question.




Some companies build scopes to be as reliable and durable as irons, if not more so. Leupold is not one of those.

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People seem to think their scope weighs 0 oz, and a Nightforce weighs 30 oz.

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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
That's equivalent to saying that a lot of game has been dropped with rocks. It means nothing. Yes, lots of animals have been killed with rifles having Leupolds mounted. That's not in question.




Some companies build scopes to be as reliable and durable as irons, if not more so. Leupold is not one of those.


Pretty good attempt at comedy right there.


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Now THIS is more like it!


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