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In 96 I had a 25-06 AI built I had read what P.O. had said then I asked a lot of questions and the guys that were separating the brass was from not enough powder to blow it out they were trying to save powder and use some type of filler with there powder that was there mistake.


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A 26" barrel with a long throat will do anything the improved versions will do and use standard dies and cases.


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A 26" barrel with a long throat will do anything the improved versions will do and use standard dies and cases.


What happens if one uses "A 26" barrel with a long throat"?


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Powder charges can be slightly increased and velocities go up accordingly 100+fps and more in some cases.


It is the same as comparing the 7mm Weatherby with the 7mm Remington but my original comment already answered your question.


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I am a fan of the 25-06AI. It was a zinger with H43350 and 100gr TTSXs at 3400fps. I'd build another one.


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fremont,

I love the Quarter-bores, especially the 257 Weatherby. That being said, I would forgo the 25-06 and any other variant's, and build a 6-06. Pull the bullets you have and simply pass the brass through a 6-06 FL Sizing die and you're good to go. Twist your barrel at 1-8, go buy some Berger 105 VLD's or Hybrids, a couple of pounds of RL-25 and live happily ever after. A 105 Berger at 3300 is a real eye opener. As a bonus, it will feed like butter through any 06' variant long action.

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Imagining that cartridge, it seems to me like its wonderful feeding properties would be akin to those of the grand old 300 H&H. Shapes would be pretty similar, with an obvious difference in scale. 300 Hurt and Hurt....another rifle/round that I need to re aquire some day.


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This schit is HILARIOUS! Never been tough to cypher who shoots and who don't...and all one needs to do,is pay out slack on the rope.

The 25-06 AI will happily squirt 100's crowding 3600fps from 24",if only because I've been around more than a few. A 23" 25-284 will make 3400fps with same. Though in fairness,I've only shot the chambering(s) from 22" to 26" and like most things,less is more. A 26" 25-06 cain't begin to hang with a 23" 25-06AI. Hint.

Now if only because you Do Nothing Dumbfhuqkers are exceedingly slooooooowwwww. Bullets matter more than headstamps and 25's simply suck in comparison. Re-hint.

The 6-06 will lazily scoot a .530 or better BC to 3300fps and there's no 25 that will begin to hang,with anything close to similar case capacity.

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Same goes a 6-284,if only because they share like case capacities. Re-re-hint.

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Again,in all things...the false shoulder is your BEST friend,whether belted,rebated,rimmed or rimless. Re-re-re-hint.

Now if only because facts are interesting and perspective is even interestinger yet.

The 257Wby/100TTSX at 3750fps launch behaves thusly,from a 250yd zero:

250yds 10mph drift is 4.3" and impact velocity is 2990fps
500yds 23.1" drop/19.2" drift/2338fps
750yds 87" drop/49" drift/1776fps
1000yds 222" drop/100" drift/1326fps

6-284(short action) 105 Hornie HPBT at 3325fps launch,from a 250yd zero:

250yds 10mph drift is 3.3" and impact velocity is 2846fps
500yds 25" drop/14" drift/2410fps
750yds 88" drop/34.3" drift/2015fps
1000yds 205" drop/67" drift/1662fps


Now a "lowly" SAAMI 243Win and that same Hornie HPBT at 3000fps,from a 250yd zero:

250yds 10mph drift is 3.7" and impact velocity is 2554fps
500yds 32" drop/16.2" drift/2146fps
750yds 111" drop/40" drift/1777fps
1000yds 261" drop/78" drift/1458fps

Interestinger than fhuqk,how that itty-bitty 243Win and it's 750fps velocity "shortcoming",manages to cross the 750yd line with more remaining impact velocity and drifts less from well inside the 50yd line,to well beyond the transonic slip. That as compared to the 257Wby/1000TTSX/3750fps melding,if only obviously.

In fairness however...the 300H&H is easily the biggest piece of schit 30cal going. Tough to swoon a full length H&H case,that only matches S/A performance. But it's easy for me to say,if only because I've shot 'em all. Re-re-re-re-hint.

If forced to suffer the bane of FL H&H hulls,the suck will assuredly be blown out of 'em. That too,is a hint. Hint.

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Bullets matter more than headstamps,though ONLY for those who actually shoot.

A 20" 6BR squirting a 105 Berger at 2750fps,will reap more impact velocity at the 1000yd line,than the 26" 257Wby/100TTSX/3750fps concoction and do so,with less than HALF the powder(43grs less in fact).

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6BR and 7-08AI. I'd say a leetle sumptin' about the 7-08AI's .625BC 162A-Max at 2825fps,in comparison to the 257Wby,but it'd snap The Do Nothing Gang!

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Yep,'nother hint.

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Hint.

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The Do Nothing Gang cited their choices and I painted that portrait with crystalline accuracy.

Not that they've any clue about anything...which is likely just one of MANY points.(grin)

Bergers are best when slow and I can't know anyone who spills more than a leetle blood,who guns 'em seriously for same.

I was long a 100XLC Fan in all my 257Wby's,as they had the metal,to have the mettle.

Pun(s) be intended.............









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I enjoy a Guesser as much as anyone,so feel free to cite what your 25-06 AI(s) made velocity wise,as it WILL be fhuqking funny.

Points awarded in advance,for the Imagination and Pretend requisite,to concoct that ruse.

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Damn Larry. At least keep it interesting and use a heavy(115VLD) at 3450 in the 257 Roy. 😃 The 100 TTSX has the BC of a brick.

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Assuming a std 25-06 gets 3350 with 100 grain bullets (seems to be about the top end for them), I'd be very surprised if a 25-06 AI, loaded to the same pressure and with the same barrel length, gets more than 100 fps more speed.

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While the TTSX might not be THE best LR bullet, (no argument from me there), it is one damn lethal bullet within say 500-600 yards.

As wbyfan1 has stated, I would like to see the above comparison made with like bullets.

Also, no argument from me that the .257 caliber is short on outstanding bullets for LR.

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While the TTSX might not be THE best LR bullet, (no argument from me there), it is one damn lethal bullet within say 500-600 yards.

As wbyfan1 has stated, I would like to see the above comparison made with like bullets.

Also, no argument from me that the .257 caliber is short on outstanding bullets for LR.


Yep, and very few of us have any business shooting at game farther out than that.

Highest BC and best game bullet are not always the same thing. Some would argue that they rarely are.

The flat point Monolithic Solids I used (and hope to use again) in my 416 Rigby on the largest game did not and do not have a very high BC, but within the prescribed uses, I would take one over a bucket full of High BC pointy pills.

At normal hunting shot distances, TTSX and similar are plenty fast enough and penetrate exceedingly well.


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