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It must really suck because they are trying to keep what it exactly is from the public. Oh and it's not a deal just an informal understanding. So we drop sanctions and Iran gives up nothing.
http://news.yahoo.com/iran-sees-progress-talks-resume-night-session-082019447--politics.html



LAUSANNE, Switzerland (AP) — Iran and six world powers have agreed on the outlines of an understanding to limit Iran's nuclear programs, officials told The Associated Press Thursday. Negotiations continued on a dispute over how much of it to make public.

The officials spoke outside weeklong talks that have been twice extended past the March 31 deadline in an effort to formulate both a general statement of what has been accomplished and documents describing what needs to be done to meet a June 30 deadline for a final accord.

A news conference was set for later in the day, when the results of the talks were expected to be announced.

European Union foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini and Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif were to read out the same statement in English and Farsi. Zarif and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry were then expected to brief reporters separately.

The U.S. and five other countries hope to curb Iran's nuclear technologies that could be used to make weapons. Tehran denies such ambitions but is negotiating because it wants a lifting of economic sanctions imposed over its nuclear program.

Pressured by congressional critics in the U.S. who threaten to impose new sanctions over what they say is a bad emerging deal, the Obama administration is demanding significant public disclosure of agreements and understandings reached at the current round. Iran wants a minimum made public at this point, describing previous two-stage deals as detrimental to their interests, officials say.

The Iranians want any results from talks in the Swiss city of Lausanne described less as a deal and more of an informal understanding.

The officials demanded anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the negotiations publicly.

They spoke after senior diplomats from the six countries negotiating with Iran huddled overnight in strategy sessions meant to advance the pace of agonizingly slow nuclear talks. Iran's foreign minister said the sides were close to a preliminary agreement, but not yet there.

The talks resumed several hours after a flurry of overnight sessions between Kerry and Zarif, and other meetings involving the six powers.

Iran also wants to get rid of sanctions that have stifled its economy. The U.S. and its partners want detailed documents on the steps Iran must take by the end of June on its nuclear program.

As he headed to his own meeting Thursday, Zarif said the talks had made "significant progress." But he said drafts still had to be written.

One problem, said Zarif, was differing voices among the other side at the table — the United States, Russia, China, Britain, France and Germany — making it difficult for them "to reach a coordination."

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who left Lausanne Tuesday, said the two sides were close, the Interfax news agency reported. There are "only a few steps left to take or, in some cases, even-half steps, and some things have already been agreed upon," he said.

But as the talks dragged on, one Western official said early Thursday that they were "at a tough moment and the path forward is really unclear," adding that the idea of breaking talks off over Passover and Easter and resuming them next week had been informally raised. That was confirmed by another official. Neither was authorized to discuss the negotiations publicly, and both demanded anonymity to speak.

The talks — the latest in more than a decade of diplomatic efforts to curb Iran's nuclear prowess — hit the weeklong mark on Thursday, shortly before the State Department announced they would go into double overtime from the March 31 deadline for a political framework.

As the sides bore down on efforts to get a deal, German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier canceled a planned visit to Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia. French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius was also back, less than a day after leaving the city.

By blowing through self-imposed deadlines, President Barack Obama risks further antagonizing lawmakers in both parties who are poised to take their own action to upend a deal if they determine the administration has been too conciliatory.

The initial response to the extensions from Republicans suggested they already reached that conclusion. "It is clear, the negotiations are not going well," Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said in a statement. "At every step, the Iranians appear intent on retaining the capacity to achieve a nuclear weapon."


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With 'Mr. Ed Jr.' involved, you KNOW it's going to be the worst possible 'deal' for the US..

That traitorous pos is just one more that should be in front of a firing squad.. RIGHT next to that other big pos, Jane Fonda..


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I'm sure it will contain lots of substance. Very constructive.

Seems we can't just simply own up to failure and go home. They're an independent nation and should be able to do whatever inside their own borders. If they step out of line with nukes, the wrath of the world will fall upon them.

We're the only nation of earth that has built nukes and used them.

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Why do we have to have a deal with them? Why do they need our permission to do something and why is it so important for us to give it?

I don't get it. Why degrade ourselves to get a deal.

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I'm all for Itan getting Nukes. As a matter of fact it should be our bombers and war ships that deliver them...with extreme prejiduce


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The deal should be a simple one: GET RID of all your nuclear, bomb-making capabilities or expect a full blown blockade, sanctions and eventual military action, up to and including invasion. It's called an ultimatum


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I'm reminded of the negotiation involved when two wolves and a sheep decided what to have for dinner.

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Originally Posted by jorgeI
The deal should be a simple one: GET RID of all your nuclear, bomb-making capabilities or expect a full blown blockade, sanctions and eventual military action, up to and including invasion. It's called an ultimatum


Never happen. The MIC wants his brethren to have nukes.


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given the fact that iran has supported any number of terrorist groups all over the world that have been killing people most of my life including a lot of americans, no i don't want them to be nuclear equipped.
I think personally the comparison to chamberlain, is spot on for what is coming down the road.


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What are the odds that Barry texted Kerry and told him, "I don't give a sshit what you, just get a deal!"?


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Too bad. Lifting sanctions will drive oil prices down even further which we don't need.


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Originally Posted by ironbender
What are the odds that Barry texted Kerry and told him, "I don't give a sshit what you, just get a deal!"?


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Originally Posted by gitem_12
I'm all for Itan getting Nukes. As a matter of fact it should be our bombers and war ships that deliver them...with extreme prejiduce


Yep.

But, they aren't the only country deserving such... wink


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If I was President, my condition would of been a little different.

They would actually be pretty simple, either the immediate unconditional surrender of the Iranian nuke program, or we'd use small tactical nuclear weapon to remove their program for them.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
If I was President, my condition would of been a little different.

They would actually be pretty simple, either the immediate unconditional surrender of the Iranian nuke program, or we'd use small tactical nuclear weapon to remove their program for them.


Agreed. And let Israel come along for the ride.

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Obama and Kerry will strut and crow like they are the saviors of the world for the next two years. Then, when there's a new administration and Iran plops a nuke into Israel, they can both blame whomever is President then for screwing up their perfect deal.


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Originally Posted by conrad101st
Too bad. Lifting sanctions will drive oil prices down even further which we don't need.


I cannot fathom that thought process!!!

Everything gets hit by higher fuel prices, everything! Does it hit one sector? Sure, but what about EVERY other sector in the economy?

That is the most ridiculous greenie horseshit.


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
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Too bad. Lifting sanctions will drive oil prices down even further which we don't need.


I cannot fathom that thought process!!!

Everything gets hit by higher fuel prices, everything! Does it hit one sector? Sure, but what about EVERY other sector in the economy?

That is the most ridiculous greenie horseshit.


Actually, the oil business in North America is in serious straits right now because of this. The Saudis are willing to take it in the shorts to drive other oil producers out. Fracking operations are shut down. Unfortunately big equipment manufacturers (one of which I am an employee) are hurting as well as the oil producers buy their equipment. All employee big numbers.

Granted you and I as well as companies that provide goods benefit from lower fuel prices. That helps the economy to a degree, but there needs to be a balance. Not too high and not too low.




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Originally Posted by 1minute
I'm sure it will contain lots of substance. Very constructive.

Seems we can't just simply own up to failure and go home. They're an independent nation and should be able to do whatever inside their own borders. If they step out of line with nukes, the wrath of the world will fall upon them.
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I am sure Kerry has a deal...

1. You can Nuke Israel as long as you don't Nuke US...

2. Make Sure Obama is appointed Emperor of the USA for life...or you will threaten to attack us...

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