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Go down to a dealer that sells T3's and look at them yourself.

Are you going to find a story about a T3 catastrophic event ?


've had Tikkler safeties click "off"... if you're prone to carrying one up the pipe its something to think about. Never had a case or primer let loose in one, but there isn't much in the Tikka design to contain or divert gas.
Bullshit story by someone that never owned a T3, a waste of time.

4th finished his 5th, now he's ranting about 3's....





































Again.

Some are slow to learn

Mas Tikkuila....


Someone find a wind tunnel or blow smoke down the tube. Lotsa smoke blowers around.

I've owned (5) Tikka T3 rifles in the past and no longer own any.

I asked you "what keeps gas from going down the left raceway", as this has turned into a discussion of rifle "design". You come back with questions about internet stories of blown up rifles and trigger failure. And ramble on about Witherbees. Then you state that gas handling doesn't matter!

All to avoid the question?

Finally you answer, "the shroud". What shroud? The plastic one that you said was cosmetic?!

Come on, tell us what shroud you are referencing.

You're going to dig yourself a hole going 'round and 'round in circles avoiding the question.

I am sure the OP really appreciates ALL of this.

I know you're a Tikkler lover so I understand your frustration.

There are things to like about Tikklers. The single-stack feed is slick, generally very accurate, decent trigger, stiff stock for the price range, etc. Add Warne rings with steel lug and grooved receiver and you've got a decent rifle. Never said they were a bad rifle.

Do Sako's have the same/similar gas down the left raceway that bothers you thing?

No idea but have a co-worker that's been having problems with a newer 7RM Sako. When things slow down I'll help him get it dialed-in for medium range... if I can... and have a look.

Tikka gas handling isn't a deal breaker, just something to factor into the overall equation. Denial isn't the same as an informed decision though.

Just finished helping a bud with his 7RM Tikkler last weekend (168 Burger). T3 Lite with 3-9x Viper...

That buddy has been in the dumps over his T3 Tikkler so when we worked up that load and shot it at 490y he was thrilled. He owned that hillside that day

Ha! Well truth be told I'm not sure what to do now. The whole reason for this was that I have a .308 Vanguard of the old type that a friend gave me. He couldn't get it to shoot for chit, and said I could keep it. I cut and recrowned the barrel, as the crown didn't look good. Still didn't shoot. Tried a bunch of different loads without success. I determined I would get it to shoot at least halfway decent, to the point where I didn't feel bad about selling it to someone and send it down the road. Proceeds were to go towards one of the rifles in question.

I decided to try redoing the bedding,even though it looked good. I dug it out with a Dremel, and just for kicks I shot it. It shot better than it had been, by far. So, I dug out the remaining bedding and did a quick bedding job on it. Got home tonight and took it apart. Turns out PAM is not a great release agent. Had no ammo left, but had some Hornady 130's on the bench and some Varget handy, so real quick loaded up 4 rounds. I had a target set up at about 60 yards where I had been shooting it before, and the best it had done was about 2 inches. I fired one, tightened up the action screws and fired a quick 3 shot group, with all bullets touching. Sooo...now I have to get some proper bullets, mount a real scope and see whats what. I even skipped stopping in at the LGS on the way home so I could do some quick testing and verify that it had to be sold. Maybe it'll only shoot so-so with heavier bullets though, and I can still sell it and buy a new rifle...

Maybe that big hole where the bolt release sits will spew off gas......


Gosh.

I actually own one of each- a stainless T3 light in .270, a RAR stainless carbine in .308, and a Vanguard S2 youth carbine in .243.

The Tikka shoots 3 shots under 1" with almost any load. Spare magazines are expensive, and the stock is hollow and noisy in the woods. Great trigger, can adjust pull weight without removing the action from the stock. Inline magazine feeds slick as can be. Comes with rings, but the ring screws are not the best. Lightweight, but has I notice recoil even in .270.

The RAR .308 shot OK as received, but got even better after floating the barrel generously. It has done a 3-shot group around 1/2" at 100 yards. Nice trigger as issued. I'm not crazy about the rotary magazine. As light as it is, full power .308 loads are comfortable to shoot.

The Wby youth carbine has an incredible trigger. I loaded up some 85 gr Sierra hollow points to use this as a lightweight varminter. I did a 3-shot 1/4" group at 100 yards. Full size Vanguards can be on the heavy side.

So, it depends on what you'd like in a hunting rifle.

My 7mm08 Vg S2 weighs 8 lbs 10 Oz with a VX2 3-9X40 and Talley bases. My other rifles weigh 9 plus so I don't think it's that heavy.

T3 goes 7#, Talley's 3.5 Leupie
SA Faux Ti 6#12oz, Talley's 6x42
LA 24" 700, Mag, McMillan, Talley's, 6x42 8#

For reference.

My Tikka T3 Superlight 270 Winchester is 6 pounds 11 and a half ounces,unloaded ,Factory Rings ,Leupold VX1 3-9x40.

Loaded with 3 rounds 6 pounds 13 and a half ounces

Loaded with 5 round Magazine,7 pounds one half ounce.

.75 inch 3 shot groups at 100 yards with Federal Fusion 130 grain

Mouser thumb-cut. Add one to your Finnish Tikkler.

Lanche has a Kimber with a milled slot in the left side of the receiver, but for different reasons.

Still waiting for you to "spew" the frijoles on this magical shroud. First its cosmetic, then its a safety baffle?

Amazing!

Or, just come back with more insults, assumptions, irrelevant questions, and worthless comments? We're a wealth of information and a class act OEH.

Did you get all skooled up after the 4th or 5th one you bought? Maybe post up some pics of what happened when you blew the bolt shroud off.

The magical shroud saved me every time but I'd be happy to test yours

Ditched (2) Tikklers to buy a Kimber and ain't looking back, but recommended the T3 to a couple buds. One of which was the 7RM posted above.