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...this was just emailed to me. Haven't checked into the premises or facts as of yet so, I simply throw it up here for discussion; towards addressing whether it's all able to be shot down or the email's substance has some merit to it. IOWs...The real fact! I'm being lazy and asking the rest of you to do the work for me...I'm busy.
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4 Simple Questions



1.Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.'So how can the Obama
birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term wasn't even
used at that time ?


2.The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as
August 4, 1961 & Lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal,
Right ? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged
25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in "Kenya , East Africa ".

This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did
not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years
after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a
country that did not yet Exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it
was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate". (check it below)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_%28http:/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya%29


3.On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place of
birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital".
This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called
KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home",
Respectively.
The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital
until 1978, when these two hospitals merged.
>>> How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate
dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978 ? (CHECK
ITBELOW) http://http/http/www.kapiolani
org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx
(http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx)


>>> Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media ?
4. Perhaps a clue comes from Obama's book on his father. He states how proud
he is of his father fighting in WW II. I'm not a math genius, so I may need
some help from you. Barack Obama's "birth certificate" says his father was
25 years old in 1961 when Obama was born. That should have put his father's
date of birth approximately 1936-if my math holds (Honest! I did That
without a calculator!!!) Now we need a non-revised history book-one that
hasn't been altered to satisfy the author's goals-to verify that WW II was
basically between 1939 and 1945. Just how many 3 year olds fight in Wars?
Even in the latest stages of WW II his father wouldn't have been more than 9
years old. Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to
alter the facts to satisfy his imagination or political purposes ?



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makes you go hmmmm......... smirk


This country sooo needs to get rid of that POS.....


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but at this point, "what difference does it make?"


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We know nothing about the man. America has been duped.


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You crazy birthers. wink

No matter the evidence, dont be called that.


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If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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Awkward questions.


I am..........disturbed.

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Originally Posted by eyeball
You crazy birthers. wink

No matter the evidence, dont be called that.

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Not a birther, just a facts guy, doctor.

If I remember correctly, haven't the dems called into question the eligibility of both McCain and Cruz, and maybe Rubio?

Were the Founders birthers?


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Well, im a birther. grin due to the facts.

Yes, to dimocraps, only certain facts matter.

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The funniest thing is that a demo-rat started the birth certificate questions.

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The way I understand it, Obama's case is identical to Cruz's, assuming Obama was born in Kenya. Both were born out of the country but to mothers who were US citizens. Cruz has been officially declared to be a natural born citizen because of his mother. If Cruz is eligible to serve as president, then so is Obama.
However, Cruz has been very straight forward in making his birth certificate public.


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If I recall, that birth certificate released by the white house was analyzed and it was found to have several "layers" to it, not just a scan of a document. Meaning it was doctored.

The investigations at the Hawaii hospital were suspect,nobody was allowed to SEE the certificate, it was a matter of, "I verify it is real" type thing.

Both Joe Arpaio and Donald Trump did their own investigations. I remember reading that Arpaio's investigators were given the stand-off treatment. Funny that neither one released any results.

I think it's pretty much believed the bummer aint the one running the show, there are higher ups pulling his strings. This was in the works for a long time, and all his records were scrubbed before he made it to office.

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Then mix in the foreign student thing, the ss number from a state he never lived in, yep same scenario.

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The sumbitch forged his birth certificate, plain and simple,most people don't give a phugg though.

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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
but at this point, "what difference does it make?"


Because it will go down in history as the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on a nation that's supposed to be "advanced".

Stupid knows no boundaries.


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Imagine the expanse of lies cultivated in order to put & keep this man in this office.

Imagine how cheaply distorted this office is for there to be no uprising that such a lowlife is occupying it.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The way I understand it, Obama's case is identical to Cruz's, assuming Obama was born in Kenya. Both were born out of the country but to mothers who were US citizens. Cruz has been officially declared to be a natural born citizen because of his mother. If Cruz is eligible to serve as president, then so is Obama.
However, Cruz has been very straight forward in making his birth certificate public.


I thought that in Obama's case, there was some dispute about his mothers status or residence in the US to meet the legal requirements for Obama to be considered a "natural born citizen"? I think, (and my memory is hazy on this) there was conjecture she was not resident in the US long enough during the critical period before his birth?

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Originally Posted by WayneShaw
The investigations at the Hawaii hospital were suspect,nobody was allowed to SEE the certificate, it was a matter of, "I verify it is real" type thing.


I thought no "original" long form paper birth certificate was supposed to exist in the Records office due to Hawaii having computerised the relevant records???

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Originally Posted by Pete E
Originally Posted by WayneShaw
The investigations at the Hawaii hospital were suspect,nobody was allowed to SEE the certificate, it was a matter of, "I verify it is real" type thing.


I thought no "original" long form paper birth certificate was supposed to exist in the Records office due to Hawaii having computerised the relevant records???


Once the legal documents are scanned and uploaded they are then stored. They aren't thrown away. If it was ever there, it still is supposed to be...


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I consider any such email a hoax. I doubt there is any such attorney/person as "Richard R. Silverlieb."

Despite that, I have always believed Obama to be a manufactured sock puppet. I do not believe he was born in the US, nor is he qualified to be President.


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Not sure why this continue to be an issue. It has been solved and put to bed with this official document.

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