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Knight still sells the 175gr RedHot and Barnes still sells the 195gr. Ive shot both and they both shot great for me. I still shoot the 195gr in my smokeless 45.

Knight now offers a 150gr too. All are made by Barnes. Personally i would waste my time with the 150gr unless you are very recoil sensitive. Even then you can buy the Barnes 40cal 155gr TAC XP pistol bullets cheaper.

So i removed the breach plug and find out the guy that sold it to me loaded the gun and forgot about it . He had 2 triple seven pellets and a power belt that I had to remove. Needless to say not very happy with the guy , I also found a pretty decent crud ring which has been coming out little by little with a lot of elbow grease.

I had ignition issues in my 50 cal DISC Extreme with anything other than Fed 209As or CCI 209Ms. Once I switched to hot primers all of my issues went away, 100% ignition with BH209 after the switch. I didn't even know that a bare 209 breech plug existed, but I saved the link just in case.

Knight sells FPJs with primers already in them.

Care to guess which primer they use?..........Win209s
http://www.knightrifles.com/product/pre-loaded-fpj-209-muzzleloader-ignition-system/

Using a hotter primer to solve an ignition issue is more of a band-aide than a solution. I actually had more misfires with mag primers when using FPJs than with the Rem STS primer which is one of the milder primers.

Its hard for me to believe a Win209 has problems igniting BH209 when it ignites all the smokeless powders ive tried in my Savage. The Savage plug is even longer and does not seal as well as the Lehigh designed Knight breach plug.

Maybe, though they actually recommend using the Fed 209A or CCI 209M over other primers.

http://www.blackhorn209.com/specs/primers/


That said, I'll probably still pick up the new breech plug.

Western recommends mag primers so that BH209 is more reliable in a larger variety of breach plugs. The new Knight bare primer plug was designed for BH209 from the start. It was also designed using a Win209 primer. One call or email to Dave at Lehigh can confirm this.

Two plugs were mainly used during the development of BH209, the T/C Omega plug and the Savage MLII plug. Consequently both are very reliable with BH209. The Omega plug is even basically flawless with a Rem STS primer.

Is there any benefit to using the Win209 over the Fed 209A or CCI 209M?

In the new Knight plug, yes. It fits the best and leaks the least. Fired primers come out nearly spotless in most cases. Other primers are shorter and normally have more blowby.

More blowby=less heat/flame/energy ect ect delivered to the powder.

I have nothing against mag primers. One of my custom builds was head spaced and the primer pocket machined for CCIs so that is what i use in it.

There is one small negative with using mag primers. They create more fouling in the flash channel. Its not really an issue in a hunting situation.