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wife drew a muzzy elk tag - need to figure out an accurate load


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Completely depends on the rifle. Mine does real well with a 435gr. Hornady Great Plains over 100gr. 777. It is a Cabela's Hawken, 1:48. I do not hunt Elk, but it is an accurate load, and would have enough steam for an Elk.

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I suppose a roundball would be suffice for elk, should the elk get close enough to you to smell it's fart and you packed more powder than you can paper-target at 100 yards.

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Originally Posted by azcoues
wife drew a muzzy elk tag - need to figure out an accurate load


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I use 80 grains of FF with a .15 patch and .530 round ball for all my shooting. This load has worked well for me both for hunting and range work.
My rifle has a slow twist ( 1-72 ) Orion barrel.
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90 grains of 2f and a .530 patched round ball will kill an elk graveyard dead. That load is a killer at 150 yards if you put the bullet in the right place.

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My Thompson Center Renegade in 54 shoots a 365 grn maxi with 100 grains pyrodex well. My dad used it to shoot a big Roosevelt cow elk. He used 80 gr of pyrodex with a round ball. Hit her in the shoulder, breaking her shoulder and the round ball split in half. Half of it deflected upwards and broke her back. DRT.

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What rifle?


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I got a black Knight inline - came with a 1.5x6 leupold scope

looked to be never fired - legal in Az figured it would be easier for wife to handle and shoot.

I also have a cva Kentucky kit rifle that came with both .50 and .54 barrels from the 70's

the .50 took a cow elk with a round ball one yr.

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Sounds like you have one of the older Knights similar to a MK85.

Tony Knight liked the Speer 50cal 325gr UniCore HP and the MMP purple 54x50 sabots. Its a good cheap bullet that expands fairly easily without blowing apart at most ML speeds. Speer Bullets #: 4495

Rainier makes a similar 50cal JHP bullet in 335gr that is a little bit tougher. MidwayUSA was selling them pretty cheap too.

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http://www.midwayusa.com/product/10...plated-hollow-point?cm_vc=ProductFinding

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I have a Richland Hunter I bought in 1981. It looks like a Hawkins but has rubber recoil pad. It has killed over 30 deer so far. I use 100g pyrodex and a .530 round ball. Some run a few yards some drop where they are. Have used it at the range in our muzzle loader club. Love the smoke poles.

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The Black Knight is a 1-28 twist, hardly ideal for a patched round ball especially with normal hunting charges.

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Originally Posted by azcoues
I got a black Knight inline - came with a 1.5x6 leupold scope

looked to be never fired - legal in Az figured it would be easier for wife to handle and shoot.

I also have a cva Kentucky kit rifle that came with both .50 and .54 barrels from the 70's

the .50 took a cow elk with a round ball one yr.


That's a conical or sabot shooter.


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picked up some powerbelts and some dead center in .54 to see how it'll group

probably use 100 grain triple seven just to see what will happen


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Barrel twist would indicate conical or sabot w/heavy, tough, bullet like a Swift, Partition, or Barnes. Black powder, 777, or Pyrodex, with BP and 777 probably the best, although I would be sure to get fresh 777 and test it just before the hunt. You might also consider using musket caps if you can find RWS ones. That will require a nipple swap, of course.

Spend what you have to for the best chance of success. This is no time to go cheap!

Best of luck.


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Wait, you're going to give your wife the .54? Has SHE ever shot the .54 before? What does she normally shoot?


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My .54 works just fine with 90 grains Pyrodex RS. Sounds to me like you need to bite the bullet and force yourself to do some shooting wink to see what your gun shoots best with. It's a dirty job but . . . .

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I've used a TC Renegade in .54 since 1979. 430 gr Maxi Ball over 120gr FF. No tracking after their hit. Used it on Mule and Whitetail deer and 1 fairly large Black Bear. Recoil is a bit stiff.

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most MZ rifle loaded with 90-100 grains have less kick than a standard 12 ga. shot gun

she grew up grouse and quail hunting and during dove season will go thru a box of 12 guage so I see no problem with her shooting the .54

guess some may have prissy ladys for wifes !??

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It all sounds good best of luck. Ho and that powder thing grin!

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