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http://ammoheads.com/arkansas-permit-holder-wins-gunfight-with-20-shots-of-5-7/

"James Allen, retreated down the street, firing as he ran. He is said to have fired the complete magazine of 20 rounds."


"Only two of the bullets appear to have caused any collateral damage, and the damage was slight. One bullet hit a garage, the other struck Allen’s own car."


That is funny stuff right there.

Mr. Allen needs to buy a shotgun.

That could have just as easily been a dove field with all the misses.

Lucky he was carrying a 'flat shooting' Five-Seven pistol
or he might have been shooting all over the place.

Reminds me of a line from a Jim Stafford song "Cowpatty"

"40 shots rang out. 40 people fell. Patty and the killer missed each other but they shot that town to hell."

Now I must have a 5.7!

I guess it disproves the saying that you can't miss fast enough to win! That guy will be drinking in bars for the rest of his life telling people how his 5.7 saved his life.

I do kinda wonder if the bad guys kept coming at him the whole time he was firing, though. Why would they stop after he ran dry?

After engaging in casual conversation, a judge I met while perusing the ammo lanes at local BassPro shop told me he always carries his FN 5.7 under his robe.

Can't say I blaim him..

I've shot 'em. They're darn accurate. Don't know how far, but I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end in a courtroom setting.

IIRC, they've got some serious velocity.

No, not quite. I'd call it a tie.....Unless a perforated body turns up somewhere.

"If you look at the casing closely..."

Apparently the pistol fires sausages.

Sounds like a successful gunfight if you ask me.



Travis

Hahahahaha!!! Dove hunters are highly entertaining. Used to have a dove hunting club just down the road from me. Opening day sounded like the 2nd battle of Fallujah...no doves were injured.

Well the good guy didn't leave with any more holes in his body than he was born with, so I guess that's the goal.

Yep, I had a buddy in a shooting and put out 11 rounds with no hits and he was very upset with his performance. I considered smacking him across the face to let him realize he won. His rounds were all accounted for, he suppressed the bad guy and the BG ultimately tossed his gun away and gave up.

Winning can mean a lot more than a dead bad guy and we need to restructure our priorities to reflect that.

That cop in North Charleston probably wishes that he had not connected. Who knows in this deal what could have happened had the "hero" connected with the 20th shot squarely in the perp's back.

While I wouldn't want an individual to train to miss, I can also acknowledge that the armed citizen in this scenario prevented the theft of his property, thwarted an attempted assault, and (best of all) doesn't have to spend the next two years of his life in suspense as to whether he's going to get fugged in the ass for the next decade.

And let's face it... We can't all have former lives as OCONUS body guards/EMT's/gun-shot wound experts/pistolsmiths/and Class III salesmen.

Sometimes shooting whilst trying to get the fugg out of dodge can be difficult for those of us that lack professional training.



Travis

That's exactly why my personal choice of defensive handgun ammunition is blanks!

I guess this falls under "good luck beats skill".

Lucky he ain't headed to court over killing the perp. Lucky he ain't headed to court over killing a bystander. Lucky he ain't buying someone else a car or house repair. Maybe lucky his own car stopped a bullet. [Edit: Oh, I forgot - lucky he wasn't hit by one of those "more than 20 rounds...." that came from the perp's gun.]

He should go buy 20 lottery tickets.

I still don't see how the perp escaping unscathed while the victim gets a hole in his car is a "win". I call it survival, but not winning.

Does that mean he lost?



Travis

I like those lil 5.7s cool firearm, but I'm not sure I'd want that as an EDC

course I guess it doesn't matter what you miss with.

not criticizing the guy, shooting in fear for your life probably has as much connotation to shooting targets

as kissing your mum on the cheek has to kissing Porch girl