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No large variable, just a plain small to medium variable w/a regular hunting reticle. What say ye fire? powdr

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I like the 2 X 7 Viper have 3 think its discontinued.


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not in my opinion.


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Originally Posted by kk alaska
I like the 2 X 7 Viper have 3 think its discontinued.


I've had 3 of those, & been thrilled. I believe CameralandNY has had (is having?) special runs of that scope made for them - It's probably worth a call to Doug/Joel/Neil (Kneel?).

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I'll find out over the next month or so if the D'Back HP 4x16x42 was the right choice for Texas ...or the same thing in a 3x12, instead of the Burris 4.5x14x42 I bought, for either the 270 or 300WSM as companion rifles to the T3 260 & 2-10x50 Minox, both of which I also bought this year.

All 3 scopes, for the 3 rifles on hand, were under $300 net net & the $K that I had budgeted for scopes in this Total Make Over. This time next year one the rigs is gonna get swapped off prolly for another 9.3x62 - most likely the 260 & Minox is the only keeper - and who knows what'll be next after that.
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vortex never crosses my mind when it comes to scopes. I think there's always something as good and usually better in the same price ballpark.


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
vortex never crosses my mind when it comes to scopes. I think there's always something as good and usually better in the same price ballpark.


Uncle Rico, how would you know if you always think elsewhere?


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Long time no see sticky fingers. What I have owned or used works so well, Vortex doesn't enter the equation, and I have used a whole lot of stuff.


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For someone entering into the shooting/hunting sports area, Vortex has a lot to offer for the money. Just make sure you baby them. Think about it. Lots of features for a great price point. Where are they cutting corners? THIN tube walls is one. Get much over 15-17 in lbs of ring pressure and you're bound to start impressing the internal mechanisms with less than desirable effects. For the more serious/experienced shooter/hunter who demands/needs reliable optics, look elsewhere.

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I have one of their red dots and like it very much, but since Leupolds have always given excellent service and are made here, I see no reason to mess around with other stuff these days. A good scope is a significant purchase for an old, retired guy and if it didn't pan out, it would cause me great anguish. If I wanted to save a few bucks, I'd just buy a VX-1 or a Rifleman, or go used.


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Originally Posted by GSSP
For someone entering into the shooting/hunting sports area, Vortex has a lot to offer for the money. Just make sure you baby them. Think about it. Lots of features for a great price point. Where are they cutting corners? THIN tube walls is one. Get much over 15-17 in lbs of ring pressure and you're bound to start impressing the internal mechanisms with less than desirable effects. For the more serious/experienced shooter/hunter who demands/needs reliable optics, look elsewhere.


Thin tubes????????? Why does the Vortex weigh 4 ounces more on roughly equivalent scopes? Surely you do not mean that?


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
Long time no see sticky fingers. What I have owned or used works so well, Vortex doesn't enter the equation, and I have used a whole lot of stuff.


So two things you clearly know nothing about move you to post... What else ya got?


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
If I wanted to save a few bucks, I'd just buy a VX-1 or a Rifleman, or go used.


Boy, I would be hard pressed to recommend either of those models to a friend over say a Prostaff or FFII. The VX-1s and Riflemans I had were some of the worst glass I've looked through save the economy scopes. I think buying used would be a better option for sure.

As for Vortex, I own a couple of Viper 6.5-20x44s and for what I use them for, mainly PD hunting, I have been very happy with them. I have also looked through their HS model which I thought was very clear. Do not have any experience with their lower end models though so no help there.

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I have two 2X7`s on lever actions and am quite happy with them.


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I'm concerned the reticle on mine is too thin for low light, but I guess I won't know till I use it....

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Last year I mounted a Vortex 4 x 12 on a CZ 527 Hornet. So far so good. Use it on crows and groundhogs so it is not used in low light conditions, but it has held zero since I mounted it. Glass is not clear as a Leupold, but it easily resolves individual .224 holes at 100 yards. Considering what I paid for it from CameraLand I am pleased. YMMV.


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vortex is a marketing company, I do like some of their stuff but keep in mind much of it comes and goes and gets blown out at a steep discount. leaving you with little resale value. So know that going in and make sure the optic matches your expectations. I bought a viper HD spotting scope. great scope for the money and I didn't pay retail for it. but there simply wasn't anything else really even close to it for the $550 I paid for it. I figured I would buy it and if I took a hit at resale so be it. It was enough better at that price point to justify it. their products haven't been problem free but they mask that up with insanely good customer service. I personally would rather not need it. but I am an optics snob and I suspect GSSP is too. nightforce spoils you that way.

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I put the 3 Vortex Viper 2 X 7 one on my LH 375 Ruger, one on My LH 308 Win, and one on my buddies 338 Win mag. So far they have held up fine. Very clear and adjustments are great. Shoot mine in a lead sled, which is hard on scopes. I like the length of the tube for mounting on a Ruger LA. Not every model of every scope makers scopes are the best. But I like the Viper 2 X 7 and the Viper 3 x 9. Just MHO!


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
~~~~ since Leupolds have always given excellent service and are made here, I see no reason to mess around with other stuff these days. ~~~ If I wanted to save a few bucks, I'd just buy a VX-1 or a Rifleman, or go used.


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
~~~~ since Leupolds have always given excellent service and are made here, I see no reason to mess around with other stuff these days. ~~~ If I wanted to save a few bucks, I'd just buy a VX-1 or a Rifleman, or go used.


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