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My very middle aged eyes have trouble focusing on the rear sight of my 1928 99G.

Receiver has not been drilled, so to scope it I need a Stith.

I have been thinking of getting a Stith with one inch rings because that gives me lots of choices.

What say the Forum?

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I'd say, make up your own mind!!!!! wink wink


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I can't agree that the Stith gives you lots of choices. You are limited to fixed power scopes unless you find one for the old Weaver KV variable. On the straight tubes the limit is 3X and you have to remove the bell to fit it through the ring. The Stith for the old Weaver 4X limits you to using very old vintage Weavers which are hard to find in the right series to match the Stith.

If you want real versatility, get one of my mounts.


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I have a stith mount that has a split rear ring and it work well with a 1 x 4 leupold. have you tried a tang sight ? I have the same problem ,I can't see the rear sight anymore but a peep works great

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If you want vintage looks, buy a Stith and a scope set so you don't have to worry about matching up the right scope with the right mounts. No Stith is "correct" with a 1928 right, but the look is cool.

If you want versatility and the option of either vintage or modern scopes, get the Lightfoot mount and use rings and scope of your choice.

Truthfully, 95% of deer hunting can be done with a 3x power scope. So it comes down to what you like.


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Originally Posted by Plab
I have a stith mount that has a split rear ring and it work well with a 1 x 4 leupold. have you tried a tang sight ? I have the same problem ,I can't see the rear sight anymore but a peep works great

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Your mount with the split rear ring is a hybrid of old and new style Stiths for the Savage 99. That was not a set that left the factory that way and they are very hard to find and piece together. Johno from down under has looked for one for years now.


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Bushmaster,

Send me a PM when you have time. I have a few options that may interest you.

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This is an antelope that I killed with a Weaver KV 1.75x-5x on Stiths at 300 yards in a 30+ mph crosswind. Drew sold me the mounts and Lightfoot sold me the scope. Drew was their, he saw the whole thing.

The point is not that I am some kind of talented sniper because I am not. The point is you don't need a 14x-50mm scope and a belted magnum to kill at long range.

Just sayin...


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Hey Randy

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That dink I shot showed up wink


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Billy:

That is bad ass...

Every time I look at that buck.., draw a little wood...

Wish I could get together to hunt with more of you guys.

If it weren't for time and money think of the fun we could have...

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Not to hijack the thread:

Couple of guys have asked me where I got the slip knot, no sling stud sling on my gun

Can't even remember anymore, but know somebody here will know.


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Bump for the info on the sling.

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PM's sent to guys looking for slings. The info is a couple of years old. Hope it is still good.


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If a man is determined to scope his rifle, I'm all for helping him out. I think if I were hell bent on that approach I would go with the Lightfoot mount and whatever modern glass tripped my trigger.

The little bit of pronghorn/mule deer hunting I did out there in the big wide lonesome, I did with a 1½-4 Weaver on a .257 Roberts, and never felt handicapped. (Even though most of my kills were 50 yards and less, stalked, there was one kill shot at 300± yards.)

For the gent who is up for the challenge of mastering iron/aperture sights with middle aged eyes, there are ways to do it that work with a minimum of fuss. Getting back to "the basics", as it were, has proven to be very satisfying to me. YMMV.


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If you do what you're thinking of, here's what it will look like.

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Mine's a 1928 vintage also, SN 306xxx. The low power early Weaver scope looks "right" on it and give enough magnification for Michigan whitetail hunting.

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A wise man once said:

Originally Posted by gnoahhh
If a man is determined to scope his rifle, I'm all for helping him out. I think if I were hell bent on that approach I would go with the Lightfoot mount and whatever modern glass tripped my trigger.



That's what I would do and use a 2x-7x 33mm.


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I gotta agree with the Lightfoot mount. There's no messing around, and take that from a guy who messed with a gob of Stith configurations while trying to make all sorts of crap work.


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Originally Posted by billy336



That's what I would do and use a 2x-7x 33mm.


Not me. If I wanted to go modern, I would use my custom 264 Win Mag with a 26 inch barrel topped with the 6.5-20x50 Zeiss holding turrets. On deer sized game, I can shoot out to 550 with little issues. 700 if I have a calm wind and also feel confident.

Keep old, old and new, new. Otherwise, there isn't any nostalgia... and IMO, looks really goofy putting a modern scope on a 20s gun. To which is own.


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I've got one on a T. Looks pretty decent. The guys at deer camp finger that thing like it's theirs smirk. I know, a T ain't from the 20s. But close smile....


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If you want to get technical, then a proper scope for a 20's gun would be a Malcolm, Winchester 5A, Lyman A5, Belding&Mull, early Fecker, any number of German scopes, etc. (some of which are surprisingly good, but most would make the modern purist cringe).


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I like the Lyman Alaskan 7/8 in a stith! gotta have a post too!


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Originally Posted by saddlering
I like the Lyman Alaskan 7/8 in a stith! gotta have a post too!

I love the Lyman Alaskans, but a 1" Weaver with a post reticle is very nice as well.

Replace the forearm on this, and you have your 99G with Lyman Alaskan.

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99G in 30-30. Lyman Alaskan with post crosshair. And a big boar.

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Lyman Alaskan. Plain crosshair.

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One on right is 250 Barrel Band. Lyman Alaskan. Plain crosshair.

One on left is the 22HP above.

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Bunch of 99s with stiths. Bottom one is an R with a regular mount because it is factory drilled and tapped.

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Originally Posted by RAS
Bunch of 99s with stiths. Bottom one is an R with a regular mount because it is factory drilled and tapped.


Is that 4th from the bottom a 1"? Have not seen very many 1" Stiths with the front bell.

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They are nice, but it's true you don't see them often. My 2nd Stith was one, only one I've had. Hunting rat:

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Originally Posted by KeithNyst


Is that 4th from the bottom a 1"? Have not seen very many 1" Stiths with the front bell.


Yes. I have three of them. All with Leupold Mountaineer scopes.


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Hmmm. C'mon Jeff, tell us how you really feel about Stiths! grin


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+1 on liking Stith mounts, I had one on a pre'64 M/70 .257 Roberts with a Lyman Alaskan. I also like G & H mounts on rifles that have already tapped for them. In a 1" scope I like Weaver K2.5 and V4.5 with post and crosshair reticle or 3 minute LEE dot. All of my custom .22 rimfire sporters have Alaskans with crosshair and LEE dot. For the serious hunter, a Leupold Alaskan makes more sense from the standpoint of more modern optics and no worries about fogging.

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Here's another with a front bell, an early Weaver KV.

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And a Lyman Alaskan with a post.

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I really like the looks of the Stith mounts on the '99's even though they may not be period-correct.
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Originally Posted by 99guy
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This is an antelope that I killed with a Weaver KV 1.75x-5x on Stiths at 300 yards in a 30+ mph crosswind. Drew sold me the mounts and Lightfoot sold me the scope. Drew was their, he saw the whole thing.

The point is not that I am some kind of talented sniper because I am not. The point is you don't need a 14x-50mm scope and a belted magnum to kill at long range.

Just sayin...


Ironic thing is that I was hunting with a Rem 700 in 25-06 and a 3x9-40 and shot a goat at less than half the distance that Randy did. The shot he made with the 300 was a pretty good distance. I don't recall if we had a range finder or if we paced it off, but after it went down, it was a LONG walk, over a deep ravine to get to the goat. 300 yards easily and windy for sure.


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