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When will 30-06 not work?


Yes, when the shooter can't shoot straight.

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I hear ya,most of the magnum morons won't agree though

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Originally Posted by sandpit
I hear ya,most of the magnum morons won't agree though


sandpit that's two slams on the magnum users in one day. Congrats on advancing an agenda. grin

Please give us more of your thoughts regarding magnum cartridges and users. I'm very interested in your "Western wisdom" and experience on the subject.Thanks in advance. wink

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When Phil talks I listen as well as many of you. I own three 06s and can also attest to their efficacy. That said, they remind me of Vespas and Fat Chicks; lots of fun and get the job done, UNTIL your friends see you with one.... And I was glad I had a 416 Rigby when I hunted Cape Buffalo..


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Hey, lets not get personal, what is wrong with fat chicks on Vespas?


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Anyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.
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the old 06 works very well for a lot of things.. But usually there are specific calibers that will out class it in all of those areas..


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Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter
the old 06 works very well for a lot of things.. But usually there are specific calibers that will out class it in all of those areas..


With the exception of the two ends of the spectrum, varmints and African dangerous game, I cannot think of any cartridges that will "outclass" the 30-06. Many will do the same job just as well, but outclass. I respectfully disagree.


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The trouble with fat chicks is they have places they can't reach with a washcloth. Nothing against Vespas.
Years ago my wife and I took our 10 year anniversary to Alaska. We were on a caribou hunt flying out of Iliamna.
We were sleeping in a tent next to a pile of quartered caribou. I had read in a book never to argue with your guide or
the hunt will be ruined.
So I kept my mouth shut.
That night a sow brown bear and two cubs came to feast on the pile of meat just a few feet from our tent. The bones crunching woke me up out of a sound sleep.
My guide had told me not to load until he said so and not to shoot until he said so. I decided it was time to load and started shoving 35 Whelen cartridges with 225 gr Noslers in.
After awhile I decided to get the camera
and when I shot the camera the flash scared them off like the Kentucky derby.
Never once did I wish for a 30-06
400 Whelen maybe.
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Originally Posted by BobinNH
I love the 30/06. I started there and could have ended there,too.

But I'm not getting rid of my other stuff just because i have a good 30/06 smile

In their place I like my 270's, 7 mags and the 375H&H just as well.


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If I get to hunt brown bear again; or Cape Buffalo, I will take a 375 H&H. I've been shooting it for 30+ years.


I figure a big bear hunt would be justification to get a .375 Ruger, although I admit a H&H would be more traditional choice for Africa.


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A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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I shoot stuff with a range of stuff- from .243 to 338WM- even a moose with a 12 gauge slug once.

I've use an '06 (currently have two of them) for - oh- about 40 years now.

When will it not work?

When the shooter f***ks up.
Ditto for all the other stuff I've used.

And yes, I have, time to time!



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If the question is whether or not the .30/06 is the perfect cartridge, the answer is that there is no perfect cartridge, and never will be.

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Originally Posted by 458Win
Hey, lets not get personal, what is wrong with fat chicks on Vespas?


NUTHIN' grin

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Originally Posted by 458Win
Hey, lets not get personal, what is wrong with fat chicks on Vespas?


NUTHIN' grin

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Man o Man ,look at the chitter on that critter !!


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Originally Posted by 458Win
Hey, lets not get personal, what is wrong with fat chicks on Vespas?


NUTHIN' grin

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Now we're getting somewhere.

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What color is the Vespa ?


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Originally Posted by 458Win
What color is the Vespa ?


You can't see it in the pic Jorge posted......it's hidden from view.



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I'm down to four 06's. My go to rifle is usually a 721 06 with a Kevlar stock, a 700 barrel and a 700 trigger. It either has a 2x7 Leupold or a 4x Leupold on it. I've had that one 30+ years. It replaced an O3 Springfield with modified military stock and a 4x Weaver and an old recoil pad that came off something else. I had that 03 for 20 years or there abouts.

I've killed more big game with those two rifles than all other calibers put together. However, I like other calibers too. No need to bad mouth anything else just to bring up the 06. The only one that is suspect is the gay cartridge...

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So, what is the best all round bullet for NA? (minus grizzly)
180gr?

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For an all arounder, 165 Partition pushed to 2900.


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