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Hi, Lever action shooters I'm posting here because I would think that lever enthusiast would know my two caliber choices better then anyone, 25-20WCF or 38 special.
I have an English rook rifle made by BSA at the gunsmith he can re-line the barrel in 25-20 or Re-bore and chamber to 38 special.
My question is what would someone like yourself (much more gun experience them myself ) find more exciting to own take to the range and target shoot, hunting game not a factor, mostly at 50 yrds ,open sights shot off hand and benched for accuracy.
I will be handloading for either one. But can the 38 special stay fun and interesting and accurate enough to keep up with the 25-20 which I would imagine would probably feel like shooting a lazer beam with twice the FPS then the lumbering 38.
How does a 38 special +P with a 120grain bullet perform in a 25" rifle barrel?
I know it's a tough question but any Pros or Cons will be helpful. Thanks Jimi


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For your stated purpose either would do. For me personally the .25-20 would be the more "exciting" cartridge and more in keeping with the rook rifle theme.


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A.) I would NOT re-line and chamber in 25-20 W UNTIL I had a good pile of raw brass in stock. EXCELLENT choice in chambering, just calling out potential availability issues.

B.) With a fast (NOT pistol appropo) twist liner, and 210 gr cast .357 bullets, you just might want to look at the .38 spl., shortened up to .38 S&W,...that action does not like really long cartridges, never has.

C.) it's not a "lever action".

D.) for a FIRE STORM of good opinionating, move this post over to the Single shot and BPCR forums.

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Congrats on having a nice piece of raw material,....just keep in mind what Frank DeHass said,...single shot smithing is not "entry level".

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Personally I would opt for the .25-20. A lot less lead use- 2 or 3 .25 bullets for every .357 bullet. Powder charges probably roughly the same so no difference there. Brass is an issue, but I see .25-20 brass pop up from time to time and if you keep up a concerted effort to look for it you'll eventually have a stash built up. Heck, I shoot cartridges based on the .25-20 Single Shot case which has been discontinued from mainstream sources for about 70 years now. Compared to finding that stuff .25-20WCF brass is a piece of cake. Besides, you can use .32-20 brass and even .218 Bee brass in a pinch which gives you more options in your search.

When a fun paper punching/plinking gun is being considered I always opt for the smallest cartridge, for economy if for no other reason. Plus, how many foot pounds of energy are needed to put holes in paper at 50 yds.? If small game is in the offing too, then the .25 is more reasonable IMO but if there's slightest chance that I might take it for a walk in the deer woods then I would up the ante to .357 Magnum and shoot .38s in it during the Spring and Summer.

I have a small Martini action patiently waiting for its turn on the project bench, but I'm leaning toward .22 Hornet for it. Cast bullet plinking with a Hornet is cheaper than shooting .22 rimfires these days. I already have a dandy Hornet but you can't have too many Hornets IMO!

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Have several friends with the little 310 cadets. They are a blast to shoot and believe it or not quite easy to hit gongs at 300 yds with. I would re ore and chamber to a 357 mag and load to match the original 310 loading. But with a 357 you can get groggy and try it on deer if you want to.

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On the other hand, if the present bore is good then give the original .310 a try. On a whim, I fired mine with some original cartridges and was surprised at how well it shot (I know, never shoot the donor). Shortened .32-20 brass fills the bill (you might need to thin the rims a tad), and proper diameter heeled lead bullets are available from Buffalo Arms (cast from currently available molds). 5gr. Unique works well, bullets are thumb seated in un-sized cases making for a day's plinking with just a handful of brass, and performance is about equal to a .32-20. I upped the ante with some 10gr. 4227/115gr. cast bullet loads and she cracked like a .38 Special and hit the empty beer cans with regularity. (Pretty scientific experiment, huh?!) Point being, these old rifles can be a lot of fun as-is. (But mine's still gonna become a Hornet.)


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