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Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived #9807172 04/24/15 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD J JoeMartin OP Campfire Tracker OP JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD Well, LBK was right, it does not specify that the sling eyes and tang sight were factory original. Ratz. But I do think it confirms that the scope was about as original as it can get. It was accepted at the Utica warehouse on August 20, 1912 and shipped out to the original owner the same day, August 20, 1912. The original owner, The Malcolm Rifle Telescope Co. Joe Last edited by JoeMartin; 04/24/15. I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9807274 04/24/15 Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,338 Michigan Phil99 Campfire Tracker Phil99 Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,338 Michigan That's valuable information to have. Glad it worked out! Rod ***************************************** Hunting FOR Savages, Hunting WITH Savages

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9807338 04/24/15 Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 17,690 Michigan, In , Boon S saddlering Campfire Ranger saddlering Campfire Ranger S Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 17,690 Michigan, In , Boon Wow I just knew that the rifle had some history to it! if it could only talk! Deer Camp! about as good as it gets!

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9807376 04/24/15 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD J JoeMartin OP Campfire Tracker OP JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD Yeah, I wish Malcolm had records! Joe. I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9807422 04/24/15 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,737 Eastern Nebraska Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,737 Eastern Nebraska That great news! Very nice! Now you just need to find some old articles or pictures of Malcolm displays or ads with a Savage 1899 in it, and you can claim it's yours! “The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9807428 04/24/15 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,290 Northern California S S99VG Campfire Tracker S99VG Campfire Tracker S Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,290 Northern California Wow, that I think provides a high degree of confidence in the scope being installed by Malcom. Makes you wonder if it was a customer request, with the work being farmed out to Malcolm. "The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle." John Stapp - "Stapp's Law" "Klaatu barada nikto"

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived S99VG #9807552 04/24/15 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire L Loggah Campfire Outfitter Loggah Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire Dont get much better then that !!!!!!

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived S99VG #9807682 04/24/15 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,622 Lyndeborough New Hampshire Longbeardking Campfire Outfitter Longbeardking Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,622 Lyndeborough New Hampshire Originally Posted by S99VG Wow, that I think provides a high degree of confidence in the scope being installed by Malcom. Makes you wonder if it was a customer request, with the work being farmed out to Malcolm. It wasn't farmed out to Malcom. Malcom was the original purchaser. NRA Endowment Life Member (and proud of it) Nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing. Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. - Plato Deuteronomy 22:5

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9807706 04/24/15 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,737 Eastern Nebraska Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Calhoun Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 43,737 Eastern Nebraska You need to find a 1911/1912 Malcolm catalog. Here's a 1911 ad: https://books.google.com/books?id=l...=0CCoQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false “The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9807756 04/24/15 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD J JoeMartin OP Campfire Tracker OP JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD Wow, that's pretty nice, even though a year early. Several other pictures I've seen had the rear scope mount, mounted farther back, behind the ejector port. In that picture it's mounted exactly like mine, Joe. I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9807952 04/24/15 Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 14,581 N E Kansas Rick99 Campfire Outfitter Rick99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 14,581 N E Kansas Two 1895 SBR that we did know were produced and a lettered Malcolm... . Good for you. What's next? Savage...never say "never". Rick... Join the NRA...together we stand, divided we fall!

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9808172 04/24/15 Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 397 BradD Campfire Member BradD Campfire Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 397 That's pretty neat. Great letter, congrats on the rifle! https://1895book.com/

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9808712 04/24/15 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 5,194 missouri O oldtimer303 Campfire Tracker oldtimer303 Campfire Tracker O Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 5,194 missouri Great piece of Savage/Malcolm history you have! Would be the find of a lifetime for me. GW If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared. MACHIAVELLI

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9808786 04/24/15 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,290 Northern California S S99VG Campfire Tracker S99VG Campfire Tracker S Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,290 Northern California I considered that Malcolm may have outright bought the rifle, but did they ever sell firearms? I truly don't know the answer. I was speculating that they mounted the scope, and who knows, it may have gone on to the original purchaser after that. But as I said, I really do not know. Just speculating. "The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle." John Stapp - "Stapp's Law" "Klaatu barada nikto"

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9809472 04/24/15 Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,288 Tennessee Skidrow Campfire Tracker Skidrow Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,288 Tennessee Great letter for a great rifle. Go tell the Spartans,Travelers passing by,That here,Obedient to their laws we lie. I'm older now but I'm still runnin' against the wind

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9814414 04/26/15 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,738 central Maine Plab Campfire Regular Plab Campfire Regular Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,738 central Maine nice plab Gotta love them 303's

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9817586 04/27/15 Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,077 Annapolis, Md. G gnoahhh Campfire Ranger gnoahhh Campfire Ranger G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,077 Annapolis, Md. Double haul! Way to go! "You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived gnoahhh #9826522 04/29/15 Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,137 central ohio cmhjohn Campfire Regular cmhjohn Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,137 central ohio Joe, FWIW, going through factory letters and discovered that I own #986XX which was originally shipped to Malcolm Telescope Mfg. Co. also. Gun is 32-40 cal. and was produced April 24, 1909 and shipped two days later. It is a 1899-A Standard Weight Rifle with a 26" round barrel. Unfortunately, it does not have a Malcolm scope attached and does not show any signs of one ever being attached........congrats on your great find! John

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9826694 04/29/15 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD J JoeMartin OP Campfire Tracker OP JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD John, that's cool to know. Now I'm wondering if you could walk into Malcolm's shop and pick stuff off the wall and try it out. Looks like more research, Joe. I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9826898 04/29/15 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD J JoeMartin OP Campfire Tracker OP JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD cmhjohn, should I mention that an 1899-A in 32-40 is real high on my want list. I actually have 3 boxes of vintage 32-40 ammo waiting for a rifle to mount over them, Joe. I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9826930 04/29/15 Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 13,891 Illinois 1899sav Campfire Outfitter 1899sav Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 13,891 Illinois VERY NICE JOE. GREAT INFO TO HAVE. CONGRATS STEVE �Can we move this along?" a bored voice stated. "I have places to be and people to shag."

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9833772 04/30/15 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,225 Snohomish, WA lovemy99 Campfire Outfitter lovemy99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,225 Snohomish, WA Joe, I have not been around much lately so may have missed it... any chance that you could post some pictures of your gun... especially the mount location details. thanks Andrew

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived lovemy99 #9834196 04/30/15 Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,490 Sauk City, WI Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Southern_WI_Savage Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,490 Sauk City, WI Joe's original post; https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/9762951/Is_it_worth_$900?#Post9762951 "Every day above ground is a good day."

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9835086 05/01/15 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD J JoeMartin OP Campfire Tracker OP JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD Thanks for posting that up for me. I was going to go back to my photo bucket. Sometimes things are just too easy for me to figure out. Since the rifle lettered as being sold to Malcolm, I'd say that the mounts are in the proper place. If you want a close up of the front mount, let me know,, Joe. I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9837346 05/01/15 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,225 Snohomish, WA lovemy99 Campfire Outfitter lovemy99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,225 Snohomish, WA a good picture of the front sight would be awesome! Is it dovetailed in? Andrew

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived lovemy99 #9837382 05/01/15 Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 14,581 N E Kansas Rick99 Campfire Outfitter Rick99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 14,581 N E Kansas Drew, the front sight is the early brazed on version. (1st photo) Savage...never say "never". Rick... Join the NRA...together we stand, divided we fall!

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9838722 05/02/15 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD J JoeMartin OP Campfire Tracker OP JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD I thought you may have meant the front scope mount, if so here's a pic of it. It's drilled to the barrel. The cutout in the center of the block is so you can use the tang sight and still see the front sight, and it has adjustment lines in it, Joe. I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9839254 05/02/15 Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 17,690 Michigan, In , Boon S saddlering Campfire Ranger saddlering Campfire Ranger S Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 17,690 Michigan, In , Boon Joe have you got to shoot this one yet? Deer Camp! about as good as it gets!

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9839492 05/02/15 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD J JoeMartin OP Campfire Tracker OP JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD Nope, not gonna try till I get up on the farm with Gary. Plus, so far, I only have 7 vintage rounds of Sears and Roebuck my buddy found in his "old stuff" ammo locker. I do have a couple hundred 30-30 empties, a set of 250 dies, 25-35 dies, but still need the 22HP dies to squeeze them down all the way. And I'm broke. Might try selling a couple of my old chainsaws. I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9841306 05/03/15 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD J JoeMartin OP Campfire Tracker OP JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD Here's a pic of the front sight. For being as beat up as the seller listed this gun to be, the front sight is in pretty good shape, Joe. I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9841376 05/03/15 Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,077 Annapolis, Md. G gnoahhh Campfire Ranger gnoahhh Campfire Ranger G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,077 Annapolis, Md. I always felt they put them on bassackwards. "You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9841662 05/03/15 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD J JoeMartin OP Campfire Tracker OP JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD Now that you said that, it does look bassackwards. I'll never look at one the same again. I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9842604 05/03/15 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,225 Snohomish, WA lovemy99 Campfire Outfitter lovemy99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,225 Snohomish, WA I did mean the front scope mount. Thanks for the picture! Andrew

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9842866 05/03/15 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD J JoeMartin OP Campfire Tracker OP JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD Drew, do you have a Malcolm to install? I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9851150 05/05/15 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,225 Snohomish, WA lovemy99 Campfire Outfitter lovemy99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,225 Snohomish, WA have a rifle that either had a Malcolm or a climbing lyman... trying see how I can tell the difference. Andrew

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived lovemy99 #9852108 05/05/15 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire L Loggah Campfire Outfitter Loggah Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire Drew ,the Clyman Lyman requires 2 holes in the receiver,and Malcolm only needs one. Don

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9855676 05/06/15 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,225 Snohomish, WA lovemy99 Campfire Outfitter lovemy99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,225 Snohomish, WA oh! I don't have a climbin lyman and did not realize that the rear portion actually required a hole... I guess I though it just held down by the pressure of leverage from the forward screw. So I guess my gun was set-up for the malcolm! Andrew

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9857298 05/07/15 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD J JoeMartin OP Campfire Tracker OP JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD Are you going to get it lettered to see if it sold to Malcolm? Cmhjohn has an 1899 A in 32-40 that lettered to Malcolm. We might come up with a new sub category of collectables, Joe. I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9857868 05/07/15 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD J JoeMartin OP Campfire Tracker OP JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD Drew, that means it would have 2 holes in the barrel also? I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9878660 05/12/15 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,225 Snohomish, WA lovemy99 Campfire Outfitter lovemy99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,225 Snohomish, WA yep. The hard part is going to be finding a scope and mount! Andrew

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9881748 05/13/15 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD J JoeMartin OP Campfire Tracker OP JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD About a month ago there was a mount with all of the pieces on ebay. I think it was a by it now sale, not auction, at $500. I forgot to watch it. I don't know how to do a search for old sales. If it didn't sell he may take an offer, Joe. I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9881818 05/13/15 Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 12,712 So. Kaleefornya L Lightfoot Campfire Outfitter Lightfoot Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 12,712 So. Kaleefornya use the advanced search and you can find closed auctions. I think it goes back 30 days - couldn't find a timer period selection box though. found a couple of scopes but no mounts.

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9881842 05/13/15 Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,077 Annapolis, Md. G gnoahhh Campfire Ranger gnoahhh Campfire Ranger G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,077 Annapolis, Md. Well, there's your next venture, Mike. Building repro Malcolm mounts as an adjunct to your Lightfoot Mount. Could be your path to fame, glory, and untold riches! "You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9881862 05/13/15 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,622 Lyndeborough New Hampshire Longbeardking Campfire Outfitter Longbeardking Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,622 Lyndeborough New Hampshire Originally Posted by JoeMartin About a month ago there was a mount with all of the pieces on ebay. I think it was a by it now sale, not auction, at $500. I forgot to watch it. I don't know how to do a search for old sales. If it didn't sell he may take an offer, Joe. It WAS an auction with a starting bid of $500. It was a buy it now, for $800.00 http://www.ebay.com/itm/131484416827 NRA Endowment Life Member (and proud of it) Nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing. Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. - Plato Deuteronomy 22:5

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9881914 05/13/15 Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,077 Annapolis, Md. G gnoahhh Campfire Ranger gnoahhh Campfire Ranger G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,077 Annapolis, Md. Hmmm. That one has only one barrel mounting screw hole. Perhaps intended for use on a lower recoiling rifle? "You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived JoeMartin #9882208 05/13/15 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD J JoeMartin OP Campfire Tracker OP JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD Darn you guys are good! Now I know how to do a search of closed sales.It looks like he had 0 bids, maybe he'll take offers. Thanks, Joe. I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin

Re: Letter for my Malcolm Scoped 22HP Arrived gnoahhh #9882242 05/13/15 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD J JoeMartin OP Campfire Tracker OP JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD Originally Posted by gnoahhh Hmmm. That one has only one barrel mounting screw hole. Perhaps intended for use on a lower recoiling rifle? You're correct about the one screw hole. But, I had to think about the recoil thing for a bit. Your HP is the only one I've ever shot, and to get less recoil than that, I'd have to drop down to my 22 Crossman, or maybe my Daisy Red Ryder. That would be something, a Daisy Red Ryder with a Malcolm Rough Rider. I think some folks have too much spare time on their hands. I better go find something to do, Joe. I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin