Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Winchester Collectors Pre-64 M70 with unusual scope mounting system

That's definitely a wild/primative? looking setup. I'm no kind of old school expert but thought I'd seen a pretty varied array of the older mount systems- this one is new to me.
That drilled up receiver makes my head hurt:)
John

If I'm going to shoot them, I bed them. You might think Im a fn idiot for that, but it's very likely I will not sell the rifles I have left. None of my rifles are perfect and that's the way I like them, but I damn sure wouldn't buy a pre 64 that has been drilled like the one posted here. I wouldn't have one drilled either. The best ones were already drilled and tapped . Not enough time in the day to chat with you good Winchester lovers. Working 6 days a week and rebuilding a transfer case on my '04 GMC in the off time . You guys have a great weekend..

Not looking for a fight. Just gently offering perspective. The guy who had that rifle drilled and tapped, probably well before 1964 and before that rifle had collector value, may not be alive anymore, and may have died owning that rifle. You may never sell any of your rifles, but none of us are going to live forever.

You are altering items of known collector value. BUT I would never call you an idiot for doing so. You do nice work, it is your property, and you have made an informed decision about what is important to you.

I'm simply offering the perspective that sometime in the future someone will likely say something negative about the guy that "ruined" that stock.

I damn sure would buy that rifle for the right price, and I bet you would too. We might even be pretty close on what the right price is.

Working 6 days a week . . . Make money when you can.

Good luck with the transfer case. The case on my 1999 Suburban was made of magnesium. Why in hell they thought they needed to use magnesium on a big assed Suburban is beyond me. Anyway, there is a design flaw where a part inside rubs a hole in the case, you lose lubricant, and there goes the internals. My transmission guy rebuilt mine, in a new or used case (I forget which) and said there was a fix for the design flaw. Not sure what the deal is with yours, but wanted you to be aware in case that was an issue with your '04 that you may not know about.

I have preached the same lines that GunDoc7 penned for many years. I never had a need to bed a model 70. I have owned dozens over the years and every one would shoot under 1 1/2" and many shoot 3/4". As a hunting rifle I see no need for more accuracy. I don't know if I was just lucky or was this type of accuracy commonplace. We are only temporary owners of anything. I never was a believer in the common belief "its mine and I will do whatever I want to". The Mona Lisa, the statue of David, and original copies of the Declaration of Independence were all privately owned over the years. Can you imagine the previous owners painting a moustache on the Mona Lisa, have the David statue surgically enhanced, and the Declaration used as a bookmark? I was guilty of many crimes against antiquities over the decades. I ruined dozens, yes dozens of antique knives by over cleaning and "shining them up". I ruined many old Winchesters in my youth. I have finally, and too late, learned the errors of my way. I fully expect a hotseat in hell for my transgressions.

I believe the mount is a Kesselring mount (1940's). I've heard of them but don't own any. Nick Stroebel's book on old rifle scopes shows one on page 321 of my book.