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Very true, but ......

I've read the U.S. Constitution more than a couple of times and damned if I can find a clause in it where it states the U.S. taxpayers must pay for the defense witnesses to attend trial.

If the "parents and buddies" of the already-found-guilty want to come testify, they should dig into their OWN pockets for the tab, not mine.

After all, the Taliban, etc., have millions of $$$$$ they can spend to get off one of their own.

L.W.

Should that just apply to this guy, or all defendants?

How about attorney's?
Should be apply the same principle to attorney's?

No way do witnesses have expenses paid to attend trials. This isn't close to a fair trial issue, that's silly.

This is a political exception and shouldn't be allowed... ever.

Kent

You really don't think a bunch from Mass. is going to declare the death penalty? This is the land of Ted Kennedy, Lurch and Romper Room Rommney.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1821

Well, I guess they do get paid.

So instead of the bare minimum declared by law. They get special treatment and billing law firm instead of a public defender.

Problem with 'fair' is... if any of us were on trial we wouldn't get this.

Some's fair is fairer than others.

Kent

It's no longer a Country of, for or by the People.
We're ruled by degenerates and lawbreakers.
Big Brother Rules

You have to remember that all the lawyers in Congress get to make all the rules that keep the lawyers in the money. Tax payer money. It's simple, he who makes the rules gets to keep all the money.

They have no intentions of telling the tax payers just what they are paying for, it would ruin it for them. Public defenders and experts are paid with taxpayer money. End of story. Stop voting for lawyers and maybe some of this crap will end.

kwg

would have been cheaper to just have them all killed.

if you don't realize we already have a two tiered justice system you haven't been paying attention.


I have a hard time believing you don't pay attention.

there's rules for the ruling elite, the celebrities and there's rules for the common folk

justice, uh scratch justice, bad word, the legal system and application of it's laws are not applied equally to all classes of people

I don’t get bogged down in the semantics of the thing. A VW Beetle and a high end Lexus are both still cars, but more people can afford the Beetle than the Lexus. The Constitution provides minimum protections, not “perfect world” protections. Paying for the defense of indigents has been grafted into the Constitution by judicial precedent, but it should not mean that an indigent gets a taxpayer funded dream team or a deep pocket to fund fantasy defenses designed to create reasonable doubt. I don’t see how that entitles a person to fly in witnesses from other parts of the globe on the taxpayer’s dime to testify during the penalty phase about what a good boy the convicted mass murderer was. The family was over here under a claim of political asylum but seemed to have no trouble flying back and forth to the motherland whenever it suited them. Well, living far away has some disadvantages, but it still looks like a choice to me.

I really don’t see it being about different rules. America provides equal opportunity, not equality of circumstance. Bill Gates can buy better everything than me, including lawyers and health care. So what. My middle class lifestyle affords me a living that over 90% of the world cannot have.

Zip ties, Black hood, C-130, GTMO.

Good man. You didn't let me down, after all.

"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers." Dick the Butcher in Henry VI

He sure does. However, don't recall anywhere it says it gets to be on the taxpayer's dime.

Some here are walking a very slippery slope.

What happens when what you espouse is turned against you?

How could this animals family help by standing in the courtroom and caterwauling?

Come hell or high water every member of my family will get to that courtroom one way or another.......of course my family as well as I are productive members of society and make it a point to obey laws and not get involved in terrorist activities so the chances of it happening or close to none.

+1

This is what makes us different from the barbarians we fight.

Of course judging by the cavalier attitude of many here we may have become the enemy sometime during the battle?

I honestly don't know... Has the family been accused of any actual crime, or are they only guilty of being in the same family as a terrorist?

As to the victims' needs for assistance, that's a whole other topic and clearly indicative of the crumby ways we "manage" entitlements in this country, but a separate conversation in my opinion.

Sure is a sad messed up world we live in. Grateful to have had the opportunity to worship The One who came to make it all right this morning...

Time is coming when making comments such as those we on a subversive site such as this may get us charged with treason. At that point we will not likely have any of the luxuries you mention above.

The rule of law for all, even those who use it to kill us, is all we have if we hope to make it a couple more generations.

All this terrorism stuff is a shell game; a distraction. While our eyes watch that and look over seas to those our govt tell us are our enemies they @$$ rape us and we thank them for the protection.

Sure, you can think that...but what happens when the majority decides, without habeus corpus, that you are guilty and aren't afforded the "rights" you think you have? Can't take away from some the rights you expect and demand, it's comes from the Constitution or so I was told....ya know, the whole "all men are created equal."

Hence, the slippery slope.