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I didn't really go looking for it, but there's a piece of jacket it the picture. We took the buck apart on the spot, and I didn't want to go sifting through a bunch of nuked offal. Again, that deer went down as hard as I've ever seen.... but in that jungle, two holes woulda been awful helpful had he not turfed on the spot.

The previous year I shot a similar size deer, with a similar shot, at about 40 yards with a 123 Amax out of the .260.... it exited about the size of a golf ball.

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Thanks. Judging from that wound I'd have expected him to be down and out pretty quick! smile


That is a nice picture; nice lighting.




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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What are you running at 7-08 velocity?



Put a clock on em today and got to 2600, I was hoping for more but Im thinkin that will work

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Who amongst the users is comfortable using them on a follow up shot that out of necessity must go thru more than a little meat?

Just about anything works on the perfect broadside.



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Originally Posted by gemby58
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How do the 162gr A-Max work in a 1-9" twist, seen on the box 1-8" twist


Simply amazingly. I shoot the 162 A-max out of a 280 AI and my dad does as well out of his 7mm Weatherby Remingtong 700. We both got PA bucks and a doe this year with this bullet at ranges from 50 yards to 250. Deer all died within 40 yards showing excellent performance. Not sure who can dispute these results especially after never trying one themselves. Just use them, shoot a deer, and become a believer.


I do believe in the A-Max for deer been using the 178gr 30 cal and 105 243 A-Maxs for years. What twist barrel are on your 7MM's I know the Wby is a 1-9" twist, what's your 280AI. The box has 1-8" twist on it that's why I asked. You can give up a little on the twist when you drive the bullets faster. Want to see how the work out of the 7-08 at the 7-08 velocity. I have used the 162gr SPBT in my sons 7-08 with it shooting one hole group at 100 yards. I know the A-Max has more bearing surface and wonder if that is why they say 1-8 twist


My 280 AI is 1-9" twist. I know many shoot 1-9" twist 7-08's and the 162 stabilize very well. I wouldn't worry about the box recommending a 1-8" twist.

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Originally Posted by battue
Who amongst the users is comfortable using them on a follow up shot that out of necessity must go thru more than a little meat?

Just about anything works on the perfect broadside.



IME the bullet is up to the task, but you might lose a little meat.

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Thanks,

Many are using them successfully, so I will not be the one to say no way.

However, I can't see myself leaving TTSX, NBT or Accubond for my predominately wood/semi-open hunting situations.


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No, me neither. The 162 AM is at its best for semi-open/open-country hunting. For woods/semi-open terrain I like to run the TTSX, myself.

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passport, I was referring to Gohip' running 2750 out of the 7 Mag, not your 7-08. I did not know if he was running this way on purpose or not but a buddy pointed out he is seeing pressure signs.

If that were the case in my 7WSM, I would switch powders.

In Gohip's case, if 2750 was okay for velocity, I would drop down to a 7-08 and burn less powder than the 7Mag.


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If I would have known it was going to be hard to get normal velocity, I would have gone with the 7mm-08. I was hoping for 2900-3000 fps. I've noticed on other tikkas I had trouble getting decent velocity also. It may be a tikka thing. The barrel is 24" and I planned on re barreling to the same caliber in a 26-27" barrel after this one goes south. I do sell guns a lot, but I'm hoping to keep this tikka and build off it. I don't think the 7mm STW will fit in the tikka action, but I've thought of going with a 7mm-375 Ruger when it's time to rebarrel. I think going with a longer tube will end up giving me the velocity I was looking for. I might have to try 4350. I didn't initially because I know it seems optimized for the 30-06 case.

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I have to say that the 7MM Remington magnum is a fine round and that I have used a lot. I have also noticed that getting top velocities is tougher in some rifles than others and that getting those velocities in that particular cartridge with accuracy seems to show that on average it is not as fast with the heavier bullets as most would like. R22 worked best in one of my rifles but I had to search and burn powder and bullets to get there.

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Originally Posted by Palidun
I have to say that the 7MM Remington magnum is a fine round and that I have used a lot. I have also noticed that getting top velocities is tougher in some rifles than others and that getting those velocities in that particular cartridge with accuracy seems to show that on average it is not as fast with the heavier bullets as most would like. R22 worked best in one of my rifles but I had to search and burn powder and bullets to get there.


Things can get tricky with the bullets 160 gr and up in the 7 Rem Mag,but not impossible. I think we get married to powders along the burn rate of H4831 or R 22 with 160's and sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn't.

These days we have more and better slower burning powders. There isn't any reason for the OP to be running 2750 with the 162 Amax. It isn't a fussy bullet IME. I run them at 3200 from the 7mm Mashburn Super from a 9 twist and they shoot very well.

I have not used them in the 7 Rem Mag but today first powders up for me would be RL25 and RL26. I have found RL25 to be good with bullets 150 gr and up in the 7 Rem Mag. I have not gotten to RL26 yet but think slow burners along the rate of RL25 and 26 will show good results.

I have a M70 being barreled in 7 RM right now and RL26 will be the first thing I try with 160 gr bullets when it shows up. I expect velocities to be somewhat over 3000 fps.




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The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Does anyone believe Hornady's SST would be as good or better on deer even big bodied deer than an Amax?

Reason I'm asking is I have a 30-06 that loves the 180 SST better than anything, but I have read others say they fragment badly yada yada yada. So, I have not yet used it on deer.

Does anyone have experience with both the SST and Amax?

I prefer deer bullets a bit softer than Accubonds.

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I had good results with the 150 gr. SST on deer, seemingly controlled expansion and a 2 inch exit hole on a broadside ribcage hit.


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Interesting stuff. I have a new PacNor 1 in 9" barrel on my 7mm-08; still just starting loads for it.


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