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Surely that's not a 3 shot group.... wink

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I got interested in my 223AI Kimber Montana finally, got it bedded, fire forming loads loaded, I just need to clean the bore. I may give it a try this weekend.

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yes, it be 3 shots. More than 3 shots and either you, or the critter are out of action smirk

I was eyeing a Ruger RAR all-weather in .223, yesterday. I'd like to have a bolt or single shot .223, capable of taking longer OAL's, but the promised fast twist #1V ain't out yet.


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How fast twist in the Ruger American? 1-9 is what holds me back mostly from bolt 233


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Full 9 twists stabilize most 80s if driven hard FWIW. I simply don't trust most marked 9s to be full exact 9 or slower, and that does create issues. 9.2 could be enough to negate that stabilization.



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The Ruger RAR is said to have a 1 in 8" twist


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My Kimber has a 1-9 and I've been told some will stabilize the 75 Amax, some won't. We will see...

My last 700 LTR was a 1-9 too and it would.

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If it won't do the 75 amax, its not a true 9 OR not driving the bullet fast enough typically.

Carolyn and my shooting partner on our state team shot 9 twist obermeyers in 20 inch 223 on purpose, came from BR background, and shot 80 bergers all the time in his...


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So I shot another 10-shot test group from my Ruger AR-556. Same setup as my earlier post:

Ruger AR-556, factory iron sights
Federal American Eagle 55gr BT
Caldwell bag front rest

This time I didn't use a rear bag, and instead pulled the rifle back into my shoulder using my left hand on the front of the magazine well. I also opted for a smaller black circle target, which I think helped me with holding elevation.

Here's some pics of the group, I think it's an improvement:

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The 7 closest shots form a not-too-bad group:

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If thats a piston ruger AR rifle it may not shoot all that much better even with the best of ammo.


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It's a standard DI gas system rifle.

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Thats interesting, maybe find a better ammo combo, BUT in reality thats not bad shooting for irons at all from a factory stock gun with ammo that you really don't know is tuned to the gun or not.

Heck I couldn't even produce an MOA iron group much less sub moa.


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The weather kept me in today but I did manage to put some rounds down range. This is not an official entry due to this being a lever action rifle with a wood stock but here are my results.

Rifle and range:

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Target at 10 yards:

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Rifle: Daisy Buck BB gun
Groups: 3.875" + 3.750" = 3.813" or 36.418 MOA

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wow it shoots better than a mini 14! grin


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wow it shoots better than a mini 14! grin


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Thats dedication to needing to shoot! I sure remember those days.

Now it seems a struggle to make time to shoot now and then.


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Just fooling around this AM before work and between rain.

Not an official entry by any means but folks have been curious in the past on light barrels opening up when hot and Kimber Montana's all together. This one in 223 I had set back and punched Ackley Improved, Leupold 3.5-10 VX3 with M1 elevation turret. The first load of CFE 223 and a 55 gr NBT Moly'd in Lapua brass with a CCI 41 primer. Fire forming loads.

I fired 3 shots to get on paper, then 10 more to dial the scope in then let the barrel cool long enough to walk down and hang the official target on the board and commenced to shooting 20 shots single loaded as fast as I could acquire the target and squeeze the trigger, had to be at work by 10.

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Got to the shop and the first group measures 1.248, the second, 1.978, (1.375 without the called flyer).

Not bad for a punched factory Montucky that weighs 6.5 lbs scoped, first load tried and with a half blind man shooting. I have to go get my eyes checked, almost out of adjustment to focus the reticle.

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Originally Posted by TWR
Just fooling around this AM before work and between rain.

Not an official entry by any means but folks have been curious in the past on light barrels opening up when hot and Kimber Montana's all together. This one in 223 I had set back and punched Ackley Improved, Leupold 3.5-10 VX3 with M1 elevation turret. The first load of CFE 223 and a 55 gr NBT Moly'd in Lapua brass with a CCI 41 primer. Fire forming loads.

I fired 3 shots to get on paper, then 10 more to dial the scope in then let the barrel cool long enough to walk down and hang the official target on the board and commenced to shooting 20 shots single loaded as fast as I could acquire the target and squeeze the trigger, had to be at work by 10.

The range
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The gun and setup
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The target
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Got to the shop and the first group measures 1.248, the second, 1.978, (1.375 without the called flyer).

Not bad for a punched factory Montucky that weighs 6.5 lbs scoped, first load tried and with a half blind man shooting. I have to go get my eyes checked, almost out of adjustment to focus the reticle.



Looks good to me. I was just at the LGS fondeling a montana... Very nice slick actions. One of these days I'll play a little roulette... laugh


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