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Does it keep you from buying a new one?
It has for me from day one. No interest despite the ability to inactivate it.
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Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.
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"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
Thomas Jefferson
GeoW, The "Unwoke" ...Let's go Brandon!
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Plenty of S&Ws around that are lockless , I'd not buy one that has the lock.
I feel the same about leverguns that have a added safety
Mike
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The only one I've bought with a lock is the new Model 69 .44 mag L Frame
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They have on some (IIRC some of the bodyguard series perhaps). It doesn't keep me from one. Give me a screwdriver and I can remove the lock in about 10-15 minutes tops. I have 3 with locks. My 329pd is the only one I have bothered to render lock-less as I blamed the lock on the gun tying up, especially after reading a bunch on the internet regarding lock failures on light, hard kickers like the 329. Guess what? It wasn't the lock! My guess is the lock gets blamed for more trouble than it actually causes. In any event, it is very easy to remove and you can even get a 'plug' if the open hole bothers you.
If I had a choice I would obviously prefer no lock, but it doesn't scare me off.
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S&W is already producing a number of models without the lock, the 442 being the most common I've seen. It appears some distributors are ordering them without the lock.
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I traded into a 329. Otherwise, I would never intentionally fork over cash for a new S&W with a lock.
There are a ton of very nice older pre lock guns out there.
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running!www.lostriverammocompany.com
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Does it keep you from buying a new one?
Nope. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.
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They have on some (IIRC some of the bodyguard series perhaps). It doesn't keep me from one. Give me a screwdriver and I can remove the lock in about 10-15 minutes tops. I have 3 with locks. My 329pd is the only one I have bothered to render lock-less as I blamed the lock on the gun tying up, especially after reading a bunch on the internet regarding lock failures on light, hard kickers like the 329. Guess what? It wasn't the lock! My guess is the lock gets blamed for more trouble than it actually causes. In any event, it is very easy to remove and you can even get a 'plug' if the open hole bothers you.
If I had a choice I would obviously prefer no lock, but it doesn't scare me off. The fact that they did it was enough to keep me from buying one
Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.
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Just a statement of fact. Nothing more. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.
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Guess what? It wasn't the lock! My guess is the lock gets blamed for more trouble than it actually causes. You think? Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I will never get a new S&W with that lawyer lock.
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Got one with.
Got one without.
Never had a problem. The lock can be handy when you need to need to put the gun aside, say to run into the post office and not leave a loaded gun in your car, or have to unload it for 5 minutes. Deciding not to ever buy an S&W revolver because they manufacture ones with locks is really going to limit your choices. Not much else out there in DA.
What fresh Hell is this?
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I bought one of the new mod 17's a couple years ago, and left it as is. I've never used the lock, and to be honest I have no idea where the keys even are. But it's a .22. The lock wouldn't necessarily keep me from buying the gun I wanted, but if it's more than a .22 I'd be removing the wart forthwith.
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I don't particularly like them and would prefer they didn't have one. So far, I have been able to find the models I want in nice condition without them. If I wanted a particular model and it had one I would probably buy it anyway and likely be able to sleep at night.
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Not a gun writer, but my two cents worth. I don't like Smiths with the lock. I don't like Smiths with frame mounted firing pins. I don't like Smiths with round butt grip frames. But then I'm just an old guy who likes things like they "used to be".
If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.
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