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Winchester Model 70 New Haven WSM left hand action in 458 B&M 18" barrel, NECG banded sight. In what was a right hand Winchester Ultimate stock. 8lbs-4oz. with a Trijicon 1.25-4, Leupold QRW rings and 3 in the box and one in the chamber.

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Remington 660 in 458 American w/21" barrel.
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When you have to literally crawl through alders after wounded bears like this one for hours you learn to appreciate the value of short barrels. It's why I cut the one on my 458 to 20 inches and have never regretted it.



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I had my BRNO 375 H&H cut back to 23" from the original 25". Not real short but much nicer than the 25", particularly given the fairly lightweight stock.

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Both of my 458 lotts had ~21-22" barrels. The first one was an enfield based custom and that's how it was built. The second one I sent off a Ruger #1 458 takeoff barrel and a VZ-24 mauser action to a smith. The smith wasn't comfortable with the holes for the 1/4 rib Ruger drills so deeply over the chamber so he cut 2" off the breach. The 1/4 rig had been taken off the barrel so no loss.

Both were fairly handy rifles. The first one was had a fairly light contour and was sporty to shoot. The second one with the Ruger truck axle barrel was a joy to shoot but a bit much to carry in the field.

One of these days I'll build or buy another 458 and take the lessons learned for an ideal setup. I'll probably even go against my handle and get a win mag wink Can't see going over 22" in barrel length and will probably go with a 21" spout.

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I had my .416 RM cut from 24 to 21 inches and made it an significantly better handling rifle for alders and puckerbrush. In fact I'd be hard pressed to have a longer barrel on anything from .375 and up.

About 20 years ago I had a 45/70 Marlin cut from 22 to 17 inches and that likewise was a good idea.


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I hunted with Craigh Hammon in 1999. He was using a win 70 in 458 Lott with a 20" bull barrel. It felt like a perfect off hand rifle and dropped elephant like Thor's hammer.
He liked the weight and the balance as well as the short barrel for thick stuff.


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I had my CZ 550 American in 9.3x62 cut to 22". I don't load hot, so I don't miss the extra inch and a half. It's very fast in the brush, which comes more from getting the balance and LOP right than anything else.

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Custom on a CZ 458 Lott 21" Does anything 500gr. @ 2210fps.. Factory Hornady 500gr Lott does 2230fps.. Love the rifle, the buff hate it..

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Remington 660 in 458 American w/21" barrel.
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that is totally awesome!!!!!!!!!!

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Unless barrel length is 28" like that found on certain pre=War English Mauser sporters shortening barrel makes no sense. One needs to remember that while workmanship on most of those rifles was excellent some features like extra long barrels and rack of folding sights were useless. What does make sense is to reduce powder charge to get MV or about 200fps to 250fps less.

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I have a 375h&h model 70 cut down to 18" and yes it's cool sorry I don't have a picture

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My Old Ugly Clone (not so ugly) has a 19" barrel.[Linked Image]


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My Old Ugly Clone (not so ugly) has a 19" barrel.[Linked Image]


Waterrat Is that one of my wife slings you got from her??


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Originally Posted by 79S
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Waterrat Is that one of my wife slings you got from her??


Yes it is,,I like it!!


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