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From nearly 7 years ago.

The response.



Nothing more here since this on 09/14/08.

Wow, just read this whole thread. What an education on African hunts!

Sorry to all the guys that got skrewed. You were good guys to have reported on that chitshow. You likely saved other 24hr guys from getting the shaft.

Seven years is too long to stay mad. What happened, happened. Heads rolled, jobs were lost, money was lost, trophies were lost, reputations ruined, business(s)were closed, charges laid and much of the fun taken out of Africa.

None of us quit international hunting over it.

Dang, maybe I spoke too soon. I started reading a few posts, and I guess I am still mad. Oh well, it may have been my worst hunt; but its one of my best stories.

Anyway, back to repressing the memory.

Yet you're still pals with Claiborne and willing to gamble on him again? At least, that's his position/account...

And Safariman Mark Claiborne continued to lie, scam, and deceive.

We are still talk once in awhile. When his health issues are in hand I'd hunt with him again. It would be something I set up though; I'm liking Australia more these days and as far as Africa is concerned my interests are far from mainstream now.

One thing I can say; any thoughts I ever had of becoming a booking agent myself were abandoned after that trip.

You NEED to book for Bwana Jim.

How many remember the harrowing accounts from one of Bwana Jim's Discount Safaris??


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The reason we
> had to go to that area was due to the fact that Mark Claiborne did
> not send forward your deposits until just before your hunt, I
> remember Dan e-mailing you regarding this, we even threatened to
> cancel all of Mark's hunts unless we received deposits. Had we
> received your deposits earlier on in the year we could have secured
> animals for you elsewhere. We had originally booked you down to go
> to the Omay (where we do most of our hunting) which is one of the
> best areas in Zimbabwe and received an e-mail from Mark Claiborne
> requesting that his clients are not sent there due to the fact that
> one of his client's not shooting a buffalo in the 7 days that he
> was up there, therefore the change was a result of that as it had
> to be a last minute decision to send you to the Matetsi area. Only
> 2 clients out of 10 who have been sent to the Omay have not taken
> their buffalo.






looks like the main problem with your hunt was above.
someone held on to your money for 6 months and screwed up your hunt before you ever left North America....

well, your Dream Safari guy sucked too, I guess.

You are nuts I wouldnt trust SM with monopoly much less going hunting with him after he ffucked you guys over by holding onto your money for 6 months

More & more schit coming out on Safariman....someone shoulda kicked his teeth in long ago!!

You're either insane or being set up for yet another Claiborne con job (or both). There is no alternative.

My thoughts exactly...

Unless the Agent is going to take full responsibility for what happens on a Hunt, good or bad, I really don't see the point of using them..

If I booked a package holiday through a travel agent and it went pear shaped, you wouldn't expect to chase the airlines or hotel owners to get it sorted, you deal with the Travel Agent only as it is they who recieved your money...

No real need to get insulting is there? Besides, I said hunt with, not book with. He expressed an interest in some oddball Australian stuff I do and can make happen and that's about it.

I wouldn't completely rule out insane though.

Unless the Agent is going to take full responsibility for what happens on a Hunt, good or bad, I really don't see the point of using them..


There probably isn't any point. Getting one to take responsibility for what happens is a nice fantasy, but good luck with that.

Talk to folks that have hunted with him. Schitshow, defined.

Please do ask about the Campfire Pig Hunt that he attended from folks that were there. Check out the "ass shot bear" thread. Another fella that brought his kid up to shoot sage rats that was charged a "premium" for .22s for the kid, and haggled several times over about guns and money. There are plenty more.

I don't have an unlimited ability to stay mad so must conserve it some. What I do have I reserve for Schultz. Its been almost 8 years, we did what we could to spread the word then,and did a fair job of hurting everyone we could hurt. I basically got the investigation of the illegal activities started myself, and its been so long that my contact is dead now. Time to move on, seize onto the few bright spots and remember those. Lessons learned and all that. Bad as it was, we still shot some elephants and buffalo. Could have been worse. Crying with elephants doesn't sting as long as crying without elephants.

Sounds like a "I'm forgiving, but I ain't forgetting". No more mistakes twice?

Something like that. No use crying over spilt milk. Or maybe no use crying about it forever.