Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns 9mm Self Defense Ammunition 115, 124, 147 grain which do you like and why?

115 gr Barnes Tac-Hp's at 1250 fps hands down, I have shot to much media, dead cattle, freezer burnt turkeys, old car doors/windshields to use much anything else, although, any carry gun I have on me will always be accompanied with a mag or two of full metal jacket flat point bullets in the heaviest for caliber bullet weight.

pappy

i shot the 115 barnes and the 124+p hst.

the hst had alot more on it than the barnes. more noise more recoil

Ammo Quest 9mm: Federal HST 124+P ammo test P9HST…: https://youtu.be/ld5jpsaDjbA

I prefer 124gr+P Speer Gold Dots or Winchester PDX's.

I like gold dots too, both seem to open more reliably than pdx in denim tests ive seen

10-4 RC, was it the factory loaded Barnes ammo?

If so, they're loaded a bit light in the shorts, Cor-Bon, Buffalo Bore, Grizzly and Underwood level of performance is where it's at.

Speer 124 GD +P factory load

yep

Watched more than one test video from different people doing the tests. Shooting 127 +P+ ranger T's. Numerous fails to expand. Would definitely have me thinking twice about them

My Sig P226 is loaded with 124 Grain Gold dots

GD's for me. 115 or 124's.

Speer Gold Dot 124gr. +P

I have reloaded and happily shot plain-jane Remington 124 Hollow points, Nosler Hollow points and Gold Dots.

Pretty much everybody seems to agree that you will never have to say "I'm sorry" if you are carrying Gold Dots.

The +P and +P+ designations have no SAAMI definition. IMHO, it is either marketing hype or asking permission to explode your gun.

Another SAAMI issue is that I believe that some junior draftsman (detailer) made a math error converting Metric to English. Story here:
http://eatonrapidsjoe.blogspot.com/2015/02/reloading-9mm-parabellum-saami-mistake.html

That error needlessly complicates the 9mm ammo story.

Wrong. The SAAMI standard pressure limit for 9mm is 35,000psi and 38,500 for +P. +P+ is anything over 38,500. If you're worried about your gun blowing up, you have junk guns. 9mm NATO standard is 36,500.

I think you are more than half right.

+P is defined by SAAMI as having a MAP of less than 38,500PSI and a mean + two standard deviations of 39,700 psi. They give no guidance regarding filtering (analog and/or digital) and sampling rate.

People quoting NATO specs get sloppy about whether they are quoting CUP or PSI. Yes, it makes a difference. Unless clearly specified it is not a meaningful number.

+P+ is not defined by SAAMI in that a range is specified. I don't care how "quality" your gun is. You are stupid to shoot it. If you need more zip, get a bigger gun.

-Joe

For 9mm I shoot whatever I can get cheap at Walmart.

Federal HST in whatever flavor you can get. I prefer the 147. Ranger T is also awesome stuff. I've got a stack of both on my shelves right now that should last a while.

For me, the performance of these new bullets has pretty much made the .40 obsolete.

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