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Kicking around buying an F-250. Not interested in a diesel. Any views on the subject engine?


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My brother has one in his F150, no issues with it to date and he is a fussy bugger about his vehicles. I think he has about 40K miles on it. It produces lots of power, he pulls a 32' 8K lb trailer with it and has no issues with the hills.

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What year? I know you didn't ask about them, but I have always heard the GM 6.0 is pretty bulletproof, even from non-GM guys. The big Hemi is attractive to me, but it didn't do as well as expected in some towing tests. My dad has a 2500HD Ram with the 5.7 Hemi and I have heard no complaints from him about the motor. It feels pretty quick to me, but I have only driven it unloaded. I don't know about the Ford, but the suspension was pretty weak last time I looked at new trucks (2011). They may have stiffened it up a bit. A pretty good review of the gassers is found below.

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What year Ed?

Purpose? Hauling loads; trailering?

I ask as the rear suspension is designed more like a sedan than a truck.

eta: on newer models.

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2015 and towing a 4000# travel trailer.


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Engine is probably just fine. The ford has always been a 'squatter' compared to the other two with a load. Have they stiffened up the frames and suspension on them in any way for 2015? I am sure any of the three will do the job you ask of it.

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That's not terrible heavy and you could always use a distributing hitch if it sags too much. Don't know anything about the motor. Have a powerstroke in my '11 SD.


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I don't know about longevity, but I test drove one in a crew cab short bed a few weeks ago. Thing ran like a scalded dog! I mean it would move out and right now.

I've driven just about everything ford has put in a pickup in the last 20 years, and this was the most responsive and peppy feeling motor I've seen in a 3/4 ton pickup. Of course I didn't tow anything and the truck I was driving had a 3:78 rear end, but I'd bet it would pull the house down as far as gassers go.

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seems like those who have the 6.2 s like them , but gas mileage is on the dismal side at 12 to 14 ish in average farm use

and like alot of newer V8s , the motor likes rpms and will downshift alot with heavy loads , though I am sure it would handle a 4000 lb trailer easily

wouldn't think a 4000 lb trailer would squat a F250 much either


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Originally Posted by EdM
2015 and towing a 4000# travel trailer.


You can tow that with a station wagon. Don't need a 3/4 ton for that unless you just want one. Hell, my 2011 f150was rated for 11k pounds.i pulled 5k pounds of boat and gear all over mn and wi without even knowing it was back there.


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Edm,

I have a 2015 F250 with the 6.2 liter that is about 18 months old now. I ordered mine as I wanted a 4.30 rear end. Mine is a Crew Cab 6.5 foot bed 4x4 FX4.

I tow a Primetime Crusader 360BH fifth wheel. Dry weight is right around 12,100 pounds. I have no trouble pulling the fiver. I did install Firestone air bags in the back as the truck did sag. I run around 55 pounds in them when the fiver is hooked up.

I used to live in Kansas City when we bought the truck, but in October last year we moved to New Mexico. I loaded the fiver with 50+ firearms, 5000+ rounds of ammo, all my reloading gear, all my reloading components, food for 5 days, and filled the water tank with 30 gallons of water. It would be safe to say it was probably 13,500-14,000 pounds. I went to left Kansas City and drove N on I29 and then on I80 over to Wyoming. I then left the pavement and drove 8 miles through a ranch to hunt Antelope. No issues. Then I drove down I25 through Colorado to Albuquerque and moved into our new house.

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All that weight, the rockies, I80 headwinds, etc... at 65 mph I averaged 10.4 MPG. Handcalculated.

I would buy another one in an instant.

I have owned 2 other F250's, both diesel. I had a 2003 7.3 powerstroke and a 2008 6.4 liter powerstroke.

I pulled our old fiver with the 6.4 liter and it weighed about 10,000 pounds loaded and the best mileage I ever was able to achieve was 12 mpg. That truck ran a clean exhaust ( no DPF or Doc) and a tuner. I pulled the new camper over the same route with the 6.2 liter gasser and I averaged 11.0 mpg, and that was when the truck was new.

Yes the gas does not pull in the hills like a diesel, nothing does. I just drop her into 4th and let the engine and trans do the work.

Unloaded on the highway at 75 mph I get 14-14.5 depending on headwind.

Some Cons:
Throttle response is sluggish. My 6.4 diesel was the same way and did not change until I installed a tuner.
Brakes squeak a bit. My fault coming down the backside of a mountain in northern NM. It was the middle of the night and before I knew it the fiver was pushing me faster and faster. I had to downshift and use the brakes not only on the fiver, but the trucks as well.

Some Pros:
Oil changes are less expensive as is the maintenance. I do all my own work and have done that since I started driving. Only having 7 quarts of oil instead of 16 is nice, and not having to change that under the rail fuel filter ever 10k will be nice as well.

It really is a nice riding truck and with the 4.30 rear end, pulling the trailer is a breeze.

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Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
gas mileage is on the dismal side at 12 to 14 ish


If you expect any better than that out of a 3/4-1 ton gasser you're delusional.

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I dont "expect" more ....just stating a fact LOL

but you would think with all of our vast technical advances , engineers could design a 3/4 ton gasser that would get 15+ highway milege

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I thought I remembered reading that 3/4 ton and bigger trucks are exempt from EPA ratings so there's no real driver for the car makers to spend the money to improve mpg's....hopefully I didn't just make that up.

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might'nt the real "driver" be demand from the customers ?

who migtht need a 3/4 ton but really dont wanna buy any more gas than they have to ?


there would be demand for a 3/4 ton gas that gets milege like a diesel( or at least , closer ) , pulls like a diesel , yet has'nt got the all drawbacks our present smog-choked diesels have

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I have the 6.0 in a 2005 Chev 2500HD. So far am really liking it..


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What year? I know you didn't ask about them, but I have always heard the GM 6.0 is pretty bulletproof, even from non-GM guys. The big Hemi is attractive to me, but it didn't do as well as expected in some towing tests. My dad has a 2500HD Ram with the 5.7 Hemi and I have heard no complaints from him about the motor. It feels pretty quick to me, but I have only driven it unloaded. I don't know about the Ford, but the suspension was pretty weak last time I looked at new trucks (2011). They may have stiffened it up a bit. A pretty good review of the gassers is found below.

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pre6422hornet, that's an excellent write up and also excellent mileage with a 250 gasser and 4.30 gears. Well done.


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I have a 2014 FX4 with the 6.2 as other have said it likes gas you will not use it everyday as the family grocery getter. It has plenty of power I haven't towed anything with mine yet. This coming November I will have had it for 2yrs and it doesn't even have 11,000 on it yet. My intent is to get trailer eventually that's why I got it. mine is geared 4.10 if I remember correctly.


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79s, what is your mileage?


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i have a 2015 f250 super crew fx4 with the 6.2. i only tow a ton or so in a trailer and it goes up and down mountains with no problems at all. mileage is about 14 without towing. lots of power and if you take off the traction control it will lay down a patch of rubber like a gto. i like it so far.


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