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I'm in a bit of a pickle here...finishing up a session of about 800 hulls or so, I ran out of International Clays so I figured I'd finish up the last five or six boxes using some Universal Clays.
In my spreadsheet, I found this recipe:
STS hull Rem. 209 primer Fig.8 wad 1-1/8 oz. payload Universal Clays 24.0 grains
So, just to be cautious I decided to verify this load...and I can't find it anywhere. I have the Lyman 5th edition shotshell manual and I've looked at the Hodgdon website. I even looked at a webpage I saved way back when, and the load is not shown with Remington primers. So now I don't even know where the recipe came from (I recorded it in my spreadsheet five or six years ago).
Is there a more extensive data source that might have what I need? I'm pretty sure---but not absolutely positive that I used this recipe at one time and had no issues with it...but I sure would like to be more confident before proceeding with it.
Thanks in advance.
Don't be the darkness.
America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.
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Problem solved, for now at least---I found some Winchester 209s I didn't know I had. I've got data for that.
I am still curious about the recipe I have, though.
Don't be the darkness.
America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.
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I have Hodgdon manuals going back to the introduction of Universal Clays. Your combination is not in any of the manuals. R209/STS209 primers are the mildest of the US primers and it may be Hodgdon technicians noted some cold weather problems with Universal Clays which is a bit slow slow-burning for 1 1/8 oz loads.
It is generally accepted that substituting a milder primer will result in a somewhat lower pressure and muzzle speed, and adds the risk of poor ignition in cold weather.
Interestingly there is a STS/R209/UniversalClays 1 1/4 oz 1220 fps load with the SP12 wad 24.0/9600 psi.
Michael
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Thanks for the response, Michael. I am really bumfuzzled over this.
I suppose it's possible I made a mistake when I recorded the data, but I am also pretty sure I have fired several hundred of these. Most of my shotgunning is during September, and cold weather is only a distant dream here in Texas that time of year.
Whatever the case may be, I've taken care of the problem by ordering a bunch of W209s.
Thanks for looking around a bit, I do appreciate it.
Don't be the darkness.
America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.
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