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smokers hospitalized with potential kidney failure




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Contact "Spice" is a psychoactive herbal and chemical product that mimics the effects of cannabis (marijuana).

Casper Police and other law enforcement agencies are investigating the source of the spice that has sickened at least 14 people this week in the Casper area.

Anyone who recently has used spice, particularly blueberry-flavored spice, and has experienced health problems should see a doctor or go to a hospital immediately.

Any information that would help remove this dangerous and potentially fatal substance off the street is critical, police said.

Anyone with information should contact Detective Jeremy Tremel or Sgt. Deahn Amend at the Casper Police Department at 235-8278.


A batch of the drug �spice,� or a substance mingled with it, is believed to have sickened or caused life-threatening kidney failure in at least 14 Casper area residents, according to health departments and the Casper Police Department.

The public health threat may extend beyond central Wyoming.

�We can�t assume that the material was just in Casper,� said Kim Deti, spokeswoman for the Wyoming Department of Health, which sent out a statewide warning about the drug Thursday afternoon.

�At this point because of health concerns, we wanted to share the concerns beyond the Casper area,� Deti said.

The Health Department�s warning goes beyond a general warning, state epidemiologist Dr. Tracy Murphy said in a news release.

�At this point we are viewing use of this drug as a potentially life-threatening situation,� Murphy said. �We will continue to follow up on this situation to gather more information on these reported illnesses and the cause.�

If one of those who smoked the spice dies, the seller of the drug could be charged with homicide, Casper Police Chief Chris Walsh said.

The department also plans to send a notice to health care providers alerting them to the potential connection between this drug and the reported symptoms, according to the news release.

Walsh held a news conference Thursday afternoon and said six people � three with potentially life-threatening conditions � had been hospitalized for reported kidney failure after smoking blueberry-flavored spice, a synthetic drug that imitates the effects of marijuana.

Thursday evening, that number had risen to as many as 14, although confirmation remains sketchy, Walsh told the Casper City Council at a budget session.

One of those patients has been transferred to a Denver hospital because of full kidney failure, Walsh said.

One of those hospitalized is a student at a Natrona County high school, said county school district spokesman Kelly Estes, who would not identify the student or the school he or she attends.

The district has notified its staff, principals and parents of students in grades 9 through 12, Estes said.

The Casper Police Department, the Natrona County Sheriff�s Office and the Wyoming Division of Criminal Investigation have been pursuing the case, Walsh said. �We will be relentless in tracking down the source of this spice.�

All of those sickened are between 15 and their mid-20s, live across the Casper area, and do not necessarily know each other, Walsh said.

�Not in years have we seen an event of this scale where everything is directly attributed to one specific substance,� Walsh said.

On Wednesday, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration announced it was extending the ban on five chemicals used to make spice that mimic THC, the active ingredient in marijuana. Sellers or users often spray or sprinkle the chemical on plant material, then smoke it, according to the DEA. The DEA has classified the chemicals as Schedule 1 controlled substances, meaning they have high potential for abuse and no currently accepted medical use in the U.S.

Distribution of Schedule 1 substances is a felony, Walsh said.

Prosecution can be difficult because those who make these chemicals can alter them slightly to make them technically legal, he said. �The bad thing then is that people say this stuff is safe, it�s not illegal, and the reality of the world is that the scientists who�ve created this stuff stay one step ahead of law enforcement.�

An entire police patrol team and nearly half the department�s detectives have been interviewing patients and investigating the source of the drug, he said.

No one had been arrested as of Thursday afternoon, he added.

Bob Harrington, director of the Casper/Natrona County Health Department, said the case began Sunday when a person went to the Wyoming Medical Center with reported kidney failure.

Since then, others have gone to the hospital with similar kidney failure symptoms, including nausea, back and stomach pain, and loss of control of body movements including standing, he said.

On Thursday, hospital officials determined the common element in these cases was the smoking of blueberry spice. They then notified county Health Officer Dr. Mark Dowell, who in turn contacted the department, which contacted police, Harrington said.

�Kidney failure can be fatal,� he said. A patient who survives may face a lifetime of kidney dialysis and medications, he added.

Kidneys remove wastes carried in the blood, Harrington said. �So when kidneys fail, the body poisons itself from within.�

Harrington, Walsh and the Wyoming Health Department cautioned that the state crime lab has yet to determine whether the chemicals used in spice or something else caused the kidney failure in these patients.

�It�s correlative, not causative,� Harrington said.


Reach Tom Morton at 307-266-0592, or at tom.mortontrib.com.


Read more: http://trib.com/news/local/casper/w...2dc-9c58-c5f27b2b6224.html#ixzz1nz8m4bXh


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Sounds like adding chlorine to the gene pool....


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One might be inclined to remain quiet and let things transpire.


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Hope it works!


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Let 'em smoke themselves dead, stupid asses, if it ain't natural leave it the hell alone!


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Suicide by chemisty. Makes you wonder why they do it.


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Originally Posted by Kamerad_Les
Let 'em smoke themselves dead, stupid asses, if it ain't natural leave it the hell alone!

Dog chit is natural, hell it's even organic! I wouldn't smoke that either. grin


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Originally Posted by Kamerad_Les
Let 'em smoke themselves dead, stupid asses, if it ain't natural leave it the hell alone!


cyanide is natural......you walk by a fair amount of it in the produce isle every time you go to the store....


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Since it wasn't illegal kids and others thought it was on par with smoking weed. It is nasty stuff. This session the SD legislature made it illegal with an emergency provision so the law went into effect immediately rather than in June.

Jeez, I even research drugs I'm prescribed, and I know exactly what's in them. Can't imagine ingesting unknown drugs bought from some sleazy guy who doesn't give a damn.


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Fad came and went here. SO much easier to get the real thing for kids, this is more novelty / gateway.

It beats the bath-salts fad though.

So sad that this is even a consideration.



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Originally Posted by Crockettnj

It beats the bath-salts fad though.



its the same.....same chemicals are involved......what happens is they make a chemical, it gets outlawed somewhere so they go back to the lab tweak the chemical just a bit to beat the law because now its a new chemical and put it back out in stores......have heard its a beotch to regulate cause often they dont change the package and law enforcement has to send EVERY package in for testing and often only a portion of what is sent in is illegal though all the packages look identical....

the shelf life of anyone of these drugs is short due to the legal climate so ofcourse no testing is done.....they just keep tweaking the stuff to stay ahead of the law who gives a chit about tests....

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Someone is in deep chit.


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Originally Posted by Kamerad_Les
Let 'em smoke themselves dead, stupid asses, if it ain't natural leave it the hell alone!


Like 280Rem. said on another thread, people talk all big & bad about things till it involves themselves or their family, then they want it changed. I've seen both sides of this issue involving drugs, I've dealt with the throw the book at druggies crowd, that till their kids or G'kids get pinched. Then it's, "please, oh please, give them a break.

Then the let'em smoke the synthetic drugs till they die club sings out, that's only until it's their kids & G'kids, dieing from it, then it's " why isn't the legislatures and the cops doing something about this stuff".

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What the legislature did here was put so many restrictions on the sale of "loose leaf incense," broadly defined, that it's almost impossible to comply with the law. For example, "A retailer shall ensure that each package of loose leaf incense sold is labeled with each ingredient present in the product, including all chemicals and additives." And there are more.


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Tell me again why marijuana was made illegal? Oh ya, now I remember, it was a conservative thing.


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Tell me again why marijuana was made illegal?
It made Negro's want white women.


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Nutmeg is a spice, smoked that once when I was in my teens. I don't recommend it...horrible headache and an unpleasant experience

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Never heard of it.
They offer it in gift packs?


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If livers are shutting down it's probably laced with tylenol.... and flavored with aspertame.

What is this spice stuff, anyway?

Oh, never mind. I don't wanna know. Put it in vending machines on every street corner, penny a pop. Who gives a chit.



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