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Have any of you boy's got any current information on these guy's, especially the production manager, one Toyon J. Wiggs? He contacted me about finishing a project for me back in May of this year saying that Sharps Rifle Company were the new owners of A-Square... I have been waiting on a call from them since July and now find that all there phones have been disconnected or so says the recording I'm getting! Could sure use some help getting hold of these guy's!  Phil
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I hear it is a good place to stay away from.
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Have any of you boy's got any current information on these guy's, especially the production manager, one Toyon J. Wiggs? He contacted me about finishing a project for me back in May of this year saying that Sharps Rifle Company were the new owners of A-Square... I have been waiting on a call from them since July and now find that all there phones have been disconnected or so says the recording I'm getting! Could sure use some help getting hold of these guy's! Phil PM wyoguide he is from that area
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Thanks, done! This whole thing has been a real nightmare, ever since originally talking with Arthur Alpin way back in early 2008 about building a heavy 35 of my own design, what I called a .358PLP... In 2009 with the understanding that A-Square would build the rifle, I had Dave Manson make up a custom reamer for it along with a set of gages, and sent that along with a $900 deposit for the rile to A-Square... And never could again make contact with them.... Fast forward to around May of this year! This Toyon J. Wiggs contacts me after I responded to another members request about A-Square, and after telling me that the company was under new management from the Sharps Rifle Company, that they had found my order and wanted to know if I still wanted the rifle, and that they still had my deposit, along with the reamer and gages, and that they would honor the original order... And I fell for it, and sent them, after having Dave Manson making a custom re-reamer at Reddings request a brand new Deluxe die set for the .358PLP, along with a two die set to put a shoulder on the 404 Jefferies brass for fire forming... that had been made earlier... So as of right now, I'm out a pretty good bundle on this deal! Phil
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You know I don't think I have ever heard one good thing about Art Alpin....
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"Good enough" isn't.
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I have the feeling the place has been seized... here I've been patiently waiting for a call from them, waiting on a progress report on the project... and decided to call them this morning only to find all the phone numbers have been disconnected.
A little while ago I called and talked to the business editor of the Star-Tribune that did a story on them back in Dec, 2010 and he said that he's been trying to find out him self what is going on, and that he hasn't seen anyone there in months...
Then a computer search I did, said that Art Alpin as of Feb, 2011 was up on felony charges for making false application on some kind of jobs grant back in 2007...
I'm gonna keep trying, so far I'm out nearly 2 grand with nothing to show for it.
Phil
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Jeez, remind me NEVER to piss you off. GTC
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� Jeez, remind me NEVER to piss you off. Fret thee ne'er!
"Good enough" isn't.
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OK, ...seriously,....isn't this a "residue" of an almost impossible "Joint Venture" on the part of 5-6 different outfits all setting up under one umbrella,....or am I thinking of a different embarrassing catastrophe ?
Lord only knows, the ditches and coulees along the road to "Small Custom Rifle Shops" are littered with the wrecks of those who failed in the curves.
You know what (and whom) I'm talking about, too.
GTC
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PM sent. Just to be clear, The Sharps Rifle Company has NO affiliation with either Shiloh Sharps or C Sharps both of Big Timber, MT.
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Yup, I found that out today. I talked to a girl at Shiloh who thought one of their smiths had worked for A-Square at one time, but he appearently didn't know anything new.
Phil
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I love reading The Standard! Sycamore
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You know I don't think I have ever heard one good thing about Art Alpin.... will say i do like the reloading manual he put out, but thats prolly cause he got alot of quality ppl together to help write it.....you can read it like a rifle and cartridge book more than a reloading manual and am happy to give it space on my book shelf.....hear others say the same but its the only positive thing ive heard related to the guy....
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You know I don't think I have ever heard one good thing about Art Alpin.... will say i do like the reloading manual he put out, but thats prolly cause he got alot of quality ppl together to help write it.....you can read it like a rifle and cartridge book more than a reloading manual and am happy to give it space on my book shelf.....hear others say the same but its the only positive thing ive heard related to the guy.... Rattler, what is the name of said manual? i would much like to see some more educational material on loading.
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http://www.amazon.com/Any-Shot-You-..._1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322021338&sr=8-1"Col. Art Alphin is the driving force behind this book and its collection of 5 authors, Finn Aagaard, Craig Boddington, Dr. Gary Minton, Terry Wieland, and the Colonel"
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BTW Marty if your willing to pay to send it back yah can borrow my copy for a bit....
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BTW Marty if your willing to pay to send it back yah can borrow my copy for a bit.... i might just take you up on that. this seems like a good group of guys who did the writing. its only a couple of bucks to ship it, so why not? i'd very much like to see it. thanks!
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The book is well worth the read, although much in it is about selling their brand of bullets. Now that we have such good bonded and mono-metal bullets, much of the A-square sell seems outdated.
All I ever got stuck with is the worst batch of brass for a 358STA that I ever saw. Had to pay up front, wait a year, and was afraid to use what I got. Couldn't get a refund on them.
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