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Looks like it might happen after all....

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(CBS News) CBS News has learned the House Oversight Committee will vote next week on whether to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress. It's the fourth time in 30 years that Congress has launched a contempt action against an executive branch member.

This time, the dispute stems from Holder failing to turn over documents subpoenaed on October 12, 2011 in the Fast and Furious "gunwalking" investigation.

The Justice Department has maintained it has cooperated fully with the congressional investigation, turning over tens of thousands of documents and having Holder testify to Congress on the topic at least eight times.

However, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., says the Justice Department has refused to turn over tens of thousands of pages of documents. Those include materials created after Feb. 4, 2011, when the Justice Department wrote a letter to Congress saying no gunwalking had occurred. The Justice Department later retracted the denial.

"The Obama Administration has not asserted Executive Privilege or any other valid privilege over these materials and it is unacceptable that the Department of Justice refuses to produce them. These documents pertain to Operation Fast and Furious, the claims of whistleblowers, and why it took the Department nearly a year to retract false denials of reckless tactics," Issa wrote in an announcement of the vote to be released shortly. It will reveal the vote is scheduled for Wednesday, June 20.

Issa says the Justice Department can still put a stop to the contempt process at any time by turning over the subpoenaed documents.

If the House Oversight Committee approves the contempt citation, the matter would likely be scheduled for a full House vote.

For several weeks, there has been closed-door discussions and debate among House Republicans as to whether to move forward with contempt. Some have expressed concern that it could distract from the Republican's focus on the economy in this election year.

Led by Republicans Senator Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, and Issa, Congress' investigation into Fast and Furious is now in its second year. In the ATF operation, agents allowed thousands of weapons to "walk" into the hands of Mexican drug cartels in the hope it would somehow help ATF take down a major cartel. Some of the weapons were used in the murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry at the hands of illegal immigrants crossing into Arizona. Mexican press reports say hundreds of Mexicans have died at the hands of the trafficked weapons. The story was exposed nationally for the first time by CBS News in February 2011.

Democrats on the House Oversight Committee have called the Republicans' move to find Holder in contempt a politically-motivated "witch hunt."

In 1983, Congress found EPA administrator Anne Gorsuch Burford in contempt for failing to produce subpoenaed documents.

In 1998, the GOP-controlled House Oversight committee found Attorney General Janet Reno in contempt for failing to comply with a subpoena on campaign finance law violations.

In 2008, the Democratic-led House Oversight Committee found former White House counsel Harriet Miers and Chief of Staff John Bolton in contempt for failing to cooperate with an inquiry into whether a purge of federal prosecutors by the Bush administration was politically motivated.

Congress went to federal court to seek enforcement of that contempt action, but a compromise was reached with the Executive Branch before any court decision was final.

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Very good !!

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We'll see.

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You think maybe now one of the big 3 networks will mention it?

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Please explain what happens after he is found in contempt. What happens next? What repercussions are there? How will that force him to produce documents? Can they put him behind bars? Is that even a threat? Does he just fold his arms and say, "So what?"

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He should have been in Prison a long time ago.

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Originally Posted by Everyday Hunter
Please explain what happens after he is found in contempt. What happens next? What repercussions are there? How will that force him to produce documents? Can they put him behind bars? Is that even a threat? Does he just fold his arms and say, "So what?"

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Congressional medal of honor.
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Pat on back and big party thrown (with booze, cocaine, and whores for everyone) by atf, fbi, hsa, ss, and dea.
multi-billion dollar earmark granted for purchase of more ak's, grenades, and etc, to give to the mexican cartels.
keys to the city, Tijuana, Chicago, New York, Bogota, Caracas Venezuela, etc.
Hell, Bill will probably even send Monika over and help set her a comfortable spot under his desk.



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It's about time.....


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Nothing will happen,he will make millions on the book and movie.

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About right nothing will happend .They all in this upper Demacrate party should be put up for Treason like now not later

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Originally Posted by Cartod
You think maybe now one of the big 3 networks will mention it?


Well, the OP posted an article from CBS. It was all over Fox this morning, if that helps...


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Found this on Wiki,..don't know if it's correct or not.

"The criminal offense of "contempt of Congress" sets the penalty at not less than one month nor more than twelve months in jail and a fine of not less than $100 nor more than $1,000."

Just in time to receive a Presidential pardon....

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Originally Posted by Deerwhacker444
Found this on Wiki,..don't know if it's correct or not.

"The criminal offense of "contempt of Congress" sets the penalty at not less than one month nor more than twelve months in jail and a fine of not less than $100 nor more than $1,000."

Just in time to receive a Presidential pardon....

That's about what I thought. The top fine of $1,000 is pennies, and he'll get the lowest jail term. Then he'll either have the prison sentence commuted, or wear it as a badge of honor. "Look what the Congress did to the poor man!"

Then, after the penalty, he'll go on stonewalling. At that point he'll be untouchable. Double jeopardy, and all that.

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Deerwhacker444: Bravo!
And its about time.
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And then make movie and book on how he was done wrong.

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Originally Posted by Deerwhacker444
Found this on Wiki,..don't know if it's correct or not.

"The criminal offense of "contempt of Congress" sets the penalty at not less than one month nor more than twelve months in jail and a fine of not less than $100 nor more than $1,000."

Just in time to receive a Presidential pardon....


Now this shows a clear need for a little adjustment in the law and the addition of expulsion from office as mandatory.


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Do you think that the atty general can be a felon?



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I guess the Congresspeople lie so much they don't take it too serious.


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A long time in coming but I doubt it will amount to much. Holder will continue to delay, stonewall and ignore. The media will paint it as mean spirited bitter republicans stooping to new lows of partisan politics.

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Originally Posted by poboy
I guess the Congresspeople lie so much they don't take it too serious.


That's the key. Mine do.


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