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Some questions on gun control:

Could the NRA write legislation that would diminish the incidences of mass murder?
Would Diane Feinstein (or anyone else on the left), who obviously knows little about firearms, listen if the NRA tried to educate them on the topic?
What could the NRA do to be accepted at the table in discussions about gun violence?

The reason for these questions is that my liberal friend thinks the NRA should "take the lead" in addressing gun violence. I say wherever the NRA has taken the lead, the left ridicules it or dismisses it. It seems clear to me that leaders on the left refuse to talk to the NRA. Their strategy is to isolate the NRA, make it the bad guy, foster mistrust of it, and force it to submit to their own terms.

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Steve you answered your own questions.


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Yep, he did. You cannot reason with a liberal, they do not digest facts. Liberals are driven my emotion only. "I feel guns are bad and that is all I need to know."


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Originally Posted by Everyday Hunter

The reason for these questions is that my liberal friend thinks the NRA should "take the lead" in addressing gun violence.

Steve.


They have taken the lead for years. More guns, less crime. John Lott, a former anti-gunner that came over after doing his own research, even wrote a gun with that title.


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Originally Posted by MichiganScott
Originally Posted by Everyday Hunter

The reason for these questions is that my liberal friend thinks the NRA should "take the lead" in addressing gun violence.

Steve.

They have taken the lead for years. More guns, less crime. John Lott, a former anti-gunner that came over after doing his own research, even wrote a gun with that title.

Funny thing about that. I loaned that book to my liberal friend several years ago. I was thinking the other day that he kept it plenty long enough to read it, and returned it without comment.

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Would never work to many places like Chitcago think they are the only ones that have the real answer.


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Steve you are one smart dude, you ask and answered your own question all in one post.


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You cannot argue with rational facts with someone who argues with emotion.

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Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
You cannot argue with rational facts with someone who argues with emotion.


Yup.

In any debate, emotion beats logic every time.


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I think I read it on this forum, if I may paraphrase it was something to the effect of;

"It's not the guns they hate, it's what they represent. The people who own them and believe in the 2nd Amendment and what it stands for and why it was written.
That's the one thing which stands in the way of the advancement of their socialist ideals and agenda.
It's the people behind the guns and what they believe, that's what they fear and hate, rather than the guns themselves."

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Originally Posted by snubbie
I think I read it on this forum, if I may paraphrase it was something to the effect of;

"It's not the guns they hate, it's what they represent. The people who own them and believe in the 2nd Amendment and what it stands for and why it was written.
That's the one thing which stands in the way of the advancement of their socialist ideals and agenda.
It's the people behind the guns and what they believe, that's what they fear and hate, rather than the guns themselves."

The anti-gunners constantly say gun owners are the ones burdened by fear, but it's clear to me the anti-gunners are the fearful ones.

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The nra already did it. They made the common sense sugestion of putting armed guards in schools.



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Originally Posted by Everyday Hunter
Some questions on gun control:

Could the NRA write legislation that would diminish the incidences of mass murder?
Would Diane Feinstein (or anyone else on the left), who obviously knows little about firearms, listen if the NRA tried to educate them on the topic?
What could the NRA do to be accepted at the table in discussions about gun violence?

The reason for these questions is that my liberal friend thinks the NRA should "take the lead" in addressing gun violence. I say wherever the NRA has taken the lead, the left ridicules it or dismisses it. It seems clear to me that leaders on the left refuse to talk to the NRA. Their strategy is to isolate the NRA, make it the bad guy, foster mistrust of it, and force it to submit to their own terms.

Steve.


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Originally Posted by ConradCA
The nra already did it. They made the common sense sugestion of putting armed guards in schools.


And you think armed guards in schools is going to do what?

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Originally Posted by Laguna
Originally Posted by ConradCA
The nra already did it. They made the common sense sugestion of putting armed guards in schools.


And you think armed guards in schools is going to do what?


you aren't going to "prevent" anything. Prevention meaasures fail to take in human nature, adaptability, determination, unconventional thought and crazy. The best you can do is harden the target the best you can and mitgate whatever happens when the security layers are breached. And the only way to stop a madman is with a bullet or 10. That's what armed guards are going to do.


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Originally Posted by Laguna
Originally Posted by ConradCA
The nra already did it. They made the common sense sugestion of putting armed guards in schools.


And you think armed guards in schools is going to do what?
They are going to kill would be mass murderers before they kill 27 people.



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The Detards have thought ever since JFK was shot they had the answer. 50 years of proof they were wrong WTF does it take.


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