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Finally got to the range long enough for my wife to run 50 rounds thru her new M&P9c. Loading the magazine was totally ridiculous. Each magazine included with the pistol has the heaviest spring I have ever encountered. I'm about 6', 200lbs, pretty stout grip and have loaded many different magazines, and these almost defeated me. Unbelievable the contortions I went thru to stack the rounds and I'm talking about 1st to last. And was only loading 5rds or 10rds in a 12rd magazine.

Before I call customer service has anyone here experienced this issue. Thanks for the input.


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Originally Posted by shootem
Finally got to the range long enough for my wife to run 50 rounds thru her new M&P9c. Loading the magazine was totally ridiculous. Each magazine included with the pistol has the heaviest spring I have ever encountered. I'm about 6', 200lbs, pretty stout grip and have loaded many different magazines, and these almost defeated me. Unbelievable the contortions I went thru to stack the rounds and I'm talking about 1st to last. And was only loading 5rds or 10rds in a 12rd magazine.

Before I call customer service has anyone here experienced this issue. Thanks for the input.

....yes, you're not alone....it's not as big an issue with the .45 M&P as with the 9mm.....the real problem is not so much the spring as the follower--it has a ridiculous incline on the side. I was helping with a class the other day and lady that was probably 60 rented a 9mm M&P-----she was physically incapable of getting the first round in the mag. After the 1st one's in, it's not too bad as you have relatively "level" surface to push down against (the previous cartridge), but the first one requires pushing sideways against the incline on the follower while simultaneously pushing down and to the rear. The guy in the booth next to her had a Glock 19----I asked if I could borrow a magazine and she had no problem loading it. I agree----while it's at least partly a training issue, it's still not something that you'd want to have to perform during a period of stress (i.e. a gunfight) when your fine motor skills are evaporating.


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My M&P isn't a compact, just standard fair, but it's not any more difficult that other magazines I've loaded.

This makes a huge difference, especially when doing a lot of shooting:
Magazine Loader


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Trust me, with a compact pistol you REALLY want that stiff magazine spring. See, the slide doesn�t go much past the magazine before it makes its return trip. Full sized pistols go as much as 1/4" past the magazine before making its return trip. The top round is compressed under the slide, so that stiff spring is needed in order to get the proper timing returning the round to the top of the feed lips before the slide starts its way home (technically speaking, that timing is lickety-split!). Weaken the magazine spring, and you�ll find the slide missing the rim of the cartridge and hanging up about 2/3 of the way up the case.

Solution: Get a HKS magazine loader and call it good. Will save you on finger wear, and it will save huge dollars from the cuss jar.

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I also have experience loading Glock compacts, the 23, 19 and 26, the Ruger LCP, IAI .380 and some others I've probably forgotten. They are no comparison to the M&P. I'll give a call to S&W tomorrow and see if there's a solution other than a mag loader. Can't help but think maybe there has been some kind of upgrade and mine missed it. Even after the 1st round covers the follower it's a real struggle to pack the rounds in. Thanks all.


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Originally Posted by RyanTX
My M&P isn't a compact, just standard fair, but it's not any more difficult that other magazines I've loaded.

This makes a huge difference, especially when doing a lot of shooting:
Magazine Loader
I took delivery on one of those last month, but haven't had a chance to try it yet. It's in my range bag, but so far loading up the mags on my M&P hasn't been an issue. I will try to remember to give it a try, though. I hear good things.

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You are wasting your time calling S&W, all the Compact magazines are like that - tight and tough. That little mag loader makes it easy as pie. Buy the mag loader...


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No upgrade. Buy the Uplula and be done with it.

I like mine so much I bought one for my AR's.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by RyanTX
My M&P isn't a compact, just standard fair, but it's not any more difficult that other magazines I've loaded.

This makes a huge difference, especially when doing a lot of shooting:
Magazine Loader
I took delivery on one of those last month, but haven't had a chance to try it yet. It's in my range bag, but so far loading up the mags on my M&P hasn't been an issue. I will try to remember to give it a try, though. I hear good things.


I love mine, especially when loading the 19-rd mags for my XDm. Very easy to use, and much faster (for me) than using just my fingers. Plus, no sore fingers.


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Yep, Uplula is worth every penny. Everyone thats ever tried mine has bought one themselves shortly after.

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