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I stopped in a pawnshop today and they had 3 Savages on the rack. 1899-A Standard weight rifle in 300 Sav. pretty much a rat, big piece of the buttstock missing behind the tang and the rear Rocky Mtn.sight elevator missing also, no blue or color case left. Front sight a Rocky Mtn knife edge, cresent butt plate. Bore looked decent. 20's vintage rifle. They were asking $295.00 Second one looks like a 30's G T/D in 250-3000, windgauge rear sight, lot of handling marks but not too shabby. Pretty proud of it at $895.00 Third one a F in 308, tang safety,folding semi buckhorn rear sight, this one is in pretty decent shape but has sling swivels installed, it's the best of the bunch but I can't recall what they wanted for it, I think $500.00 Is 5 bones a decent price for a F in 308?
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500 seems like alot to me....but should add that I despise them tang-safety's. Wouldn't get caught carrying one across the road.
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500 seems like alot to me....but should add that I despise them tang-safety's. Wouldn't get caught carrying one across the road. BULLCHIT!!!!! You'd carry it cross country if you thought you could swindle a buck on it.................
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500 seems like alot to me....but should add that I despise them tang-safety's. Wouldn't get caught carrying one across the road. BULLCHIT!!!!! You'd carry it cross country if you thought you could swindle a buck on it................. Haha, me thinks I saw a fella with a tang safety 308 around these parts a few years back. On a honeymoon. Took a buggy ride. Got soaked to the gills. Saw that gun the other day when I was diggin thru the safe. Same fella has Christmas trees cut into the upright supports of his deck, hmmm...
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It don't change that they fkin junk.
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I own a lot of 99's and my 2 "G" models in 250-3000 are my favorite.
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I have five 99s; a pre-war 99F in .303 and pre-war 99R in .300, an early 50s 99EG in .300 with a Stith mounted K-3, a (must be) last year production 99E thats never been shot with the cartridge counter a butt ungly hardwood stock, and an early 60s 99E in .308 I couldn't resist at a 149-bucks and all have the lever safety. I don't think I would turn my nose up on a tang safety 99F for 500-bucks if it was in decent shape. Don't get too hung up on the safety - I'm sure its a fine rifle.
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Some new buck like me'll come along and defend the poor maligned post mils. Never had one fail to feed, fire, eject, or shoot well. I like the 99A Saddle guns alot. Had a couple pre-mils that needed the spring wound, failures to feed. Post-mils inspire me to high thoughts, such as customizing, as do some pre-mils. Guess I'm more into ANY 99 than I am into just SOME 99's. Proud of it. Beats the Schitt out of dragging a bolt gun around. 
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Thanks guys. I'm with ya Jed on not being caught carrying one across the street, but I'd put it my trunk and drive it across the street if I could swindle someone out of a buck on it! LOL Really, it's nice shape but I like the pre-war guns the best! Too bad most pawnshops use Gunbroker's asking prices, not the selling prices to price their guns.
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Not surprised that the 99A in .300 has a nice bore while the rest of the gun is roached. Probably not fired very much, and for good reason. One of those in .30/30 will make mince meat of one's shoulder with that narrow crescent butt plate if not positioned right, I imagine a .300 isn't any better. Many folks don't know that a butt plate like that is intended to fit onto the top of the bicep, outboard (so to speak) of the shoulder joint.
With the plethora of good pre-mil guns out there that are suitable for regular hunting use, there's no good reason to buy a post-mil unless one needs it to fill out a collection. Leave them for the uninitiated.
As well as using Gunbroker asking prices, a lot of sellers are still using pre-recession pricing guidelines. Either that or they don't care if something sits on a for sale rack forever before it sells.
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Not surprised that the 99A in .300 has a nice bore while the rest of the gun is roached. Probably not fired very much, and for good reason. One of those in .30/30 will make mince meat of one's shoulder with that narrow crescent butt plate if not positioned right, I imagine a .300 isn't any better. Many folks don't know that a butt plate like that is intended to fit onto the top of the bicep, outboard (so to speak) of the shoulder joint.
With the plethora of good pre-mil guns out there that are suitable for regular hunting use, there's no good reason to buy a post-mil unless one needs it to fill out a collection. Leave them for the uninitiated.
As well as using Gunbroker asking prices, a lot of sellers are still using pre-recession pricing guidelines. Either that or they don't care if something sits on a for sale rack forever before it sells. Wow! Great post on several points! Crescent butt plates and multiple shoulder surgeries is an invite to disaster for this clown! You hit the pricing thing dead on nuts too!
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"As well as using Gunbroker asking prices, a lot of sellers are still using pre-recession pricing guidelines. Either that or they don't care if something sits on a for sale rack forever before it sells."
You got that right! One pawnshop had a "G" in 250-3000 and a "EG" in 250-3000 for sale at $1000.00 and $800.00, They sat on the rack for a couple of years. I had a standing offer of $800.00 for both of them. They finally got tired of looking at them and caved in. There are quite a few 99's around here in the N.W. unfortunately most of them are gray and they don't command the prices like other areas. Just gotta be patient.
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Rifles that went West got used for their intended purpose. Saddle scabbards and pick-up trucks.
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Is there anyone duplicating stocks for these old gray rats? I'm thinking of picking up the 1899-A and doing a total restore on it. The bore looked good, I really like the 300 Sav. caliber, it's one of the first ones in that cal. I didn't measure the barrel length but I suspect it's a 28" barrel. Most of it is there, no holes, major rust, etc. I know the owner and he's gave me screaming deals in the past so the buttstock is going to be the hang up. Anyone have any leads?
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1899A's weren't in 300 Savage. They were in 303 Savage if that's what you mean. The later 99A's were available in 300 Savage however.
And yeah, I know Boses of Nebraska and a few others can duplicate stocks. But you'll be ahead on value if you just find a nicer one. If you just enjoy bringing one back to life and don't mind spending a bit, then all power to you.
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Thanks for lead Calhoun, I'll check em out. 1899-A's standard weight rifles were added in 300 SAV. in 1922 I believe, correct me if I'm wrong. This gun looks 100% original.
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Yup, 1922 on adding the .300 for the 1899-A according to Murray, p. 3-11.
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Is there anyone duplicating stocks for these old gray rats? I'm thinking of picking up the 1899-A and doing a total restore on it. The bore looked good, I really like the 300 Sav. caliber, it's one of the first ones in that cal. I didn't measure the barrel length but I suspect it's a 28" barrel. Most of it is there, no holes, major rust, etc. I know the owner and he's gave me screaming deals in the past so the buttstock is going to be the hang up. Anyone have any leads? I'd be pretty astonished to find a .300 Savage with a 28 inch barrel 
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Yeah, I guess Murray's considers the 1899A to continue until 1926/1927, which is silly in my mind. 99A would have started up the same time as all the other 99's.
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