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Are they worth the money? I'd like to get a bit more power out of my truck for pulling my enclosed trailer, which weighs about 42-4300lbs when loaded. My truck is rated for 7500lbs, she pulls the loaded enclosed trailer pretty easily but she sucks the gas and i'd like to improve on that if it's possible. Any suggestions besides "get a Cummins or Hemi"?
That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.
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To get enough hp to really feel the difference get a supercharger.
My buddy has a 2500 chevy that he put on a free flow exhaust and he chipped it to pull his 5th wheel. In his words, yeah, it sounds better but it doesn't pull like a diesel.
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I did a CAI on mine and feel the same about it, it sure sounds "throaty" but I didn't see any real power gains or better mpg.
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More power and better gas mileage.
That's tough to do.
I get about one mpg better mileage when towing by running premium gas in my P/U but ...
I'm not subjected to buying the winter blend fuel that you have in AK. That resulted in losing one mpg + when I lived there.
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Well, I am not trying to get both at the same time. I'd like more power for towing and when i'm not, be able to make adjustments for daily driving. I may just end up buying a used truck for hauling since it appears that I won't get much out of a chip or tuner.
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I've not heard any miracle stories from the gas rigs guys as far as performance chips, but I've never done it myself.
On the diesel side, it is a much different story.
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Like the others said, I don't think there is much of a gain with just performance chips. Some people change the exhaust, air cleaners and use tuning or the chips. That combination might result in a slight gain, but is it worth it?
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I've already done the CAI and have been considering having a dual exhaust installed. I'm probably going to skip on the chips/tuner and buy a second truck for just towing purposes.
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A second truck would buy a lot of gas.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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I've got a 2001 Silverado that was chipped when I bought it. I don't know what it would do without the chip, but it runs like a striped ass ape with it. It's my favorite pick-up...for now.
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I agree, you can buy a heck of a lot of gas for the cost of another truck, license, insurance etc.
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I'm more concerned about having more power to tow my trailer than I am about putting gas in it. Plus wear and tear on my daily driver will be cut down too.
That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.
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OK. It's just that in your OP you said
///she pulls the loaded enclosed trailer pretty easily but she sucks the gas\\\
I figured the money would be better spent on fuel.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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Well, she does suck the gas when i'm pulling that trailer, she's good any other time. I can even put my sled or atv in the back of the truck and gas mileage doesn't drop one bit. I got 16mpg on Saturday driving in 4wd to Petersville and back which is pretty damn good for this truck. I've always wanted a shortbed Ford diesel anyways so I guess I was trying to talk myself out of it, doesn't seem to be working though. 
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Well, she does suck the gas when i'm pulling that trailer, she's good any other time. I can even put my sled or atv in the back of the truck and gas mileage doesn't drop one bit. I got 16mpg on Saturday driving in 4wd to Petersville and back which is pretty damn good for this truck. I've always wanted a shortbed Ford diesel anyways so I guess I was trying to talk myself out of it, doesn't seem to be working though. funny, in my old half ton for with the quad in the back I would get 2 mpg better than without. I figured it must change the aerodynamics a considerable amount hauling the quad.
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I've always wanted a shortbed Ford diesel anyways so I guess I was trying to talk myself out of it, doesn't seem to be working though. Figured you'd fess up sooner or later!
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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Guilty as charged! 
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Outside of forced induction, the best gain I have ever seen is long tube headers. They are spendy but really help in the tq area. I have read that custom tuned chips that take some of the fail safes out of the tranny tuning can do wonders but I have no experience with them.
On my 03 Yukon, long tubes made a very noticeable difference. I didn't dyno the truck before hand and I didn't do it after so I have no number to prove it. But the truck runs better, cruises at a slightly lower rpm and seems to down shift less.
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Outside of forced induction, the best gain I have ever seen is long tube headers. They are spendy but really help in the tq area. I have read that custom tuned chips that take some of the fail safes out of the tranny tuning can do wonders but I have no experience with them.
On my 03 Yukon, long tubes made a very noticeable difference. I didn't dyno the truck before hand and I didn't do it after so I have no number to prove it. But the truck runs better, cruises at a slightly lower rpm and seems to down shift less. The only way your truck can cruise at a lower rpm is if you're driving slower, or if you've changed the gearing.
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Have you looked into propane injection kits?
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