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I currently use a Whisker-Biscuit but i am curious about the Drop-Aways. What are the pros and cons of using a Drop-Away?
The advantage is that a drop-away rest minimizes contact with the arrow shaft and fletching. Minimizing this contact makes the drop-away more tolerant to flaws in shooting form. The minimal contact also seems to help the life of fletching. Many archers feel the drop-away improves accuracy. A drop-away may be more tolerant of weather and temperature conditions. The disadvantages? The Whisker Biscuit holds an arrow more securely than a drop rest. This is an issue whether you are in a stand or on a stalk. The drop-away has a greater chance of malfunctioning or breaking than the Whisker Biscuit.
I disagree about the arrow being held. i shoot a quad fall away , you instert the arrow and cock it in the up position. It wont fall away until the arrow is shot. The arrow cant fall out of the rest unless you remove it.My groups from my wisker biscuit days have gotten much smaller.
Whiskers are the ultimate ( at least right now) in simplicity once you have them set up....
I would stay with the Whisker-Biscuit, to keep your fletches on your arrows if they get caught just put a little super glue in front of each fleach.
I really like the Biscuit.no moving parts.One less thing to go wrong. Ive been using them for 4 yrs. reliable.
I have the biscuit also. I shoot a hoyt pro-tec and love it. I had a drop-away the problem is if you ever need a second shot there is to much movement to get the dropaway back to shoot another arrow but not with the biscuit
I shoot a Trophy Taker fall away rest and love it. As for the arrow falling off I started hunting archery in 1990 with the plastic tab rest, then moved to a little spring rest, and then the 3d Rover. I have gone accustomed to holding my finger on my over the arrow while walking, so I do not find the arrow falling off of my rest to be a problem.

shedhunter what rest where you using that you had to manualy raise your rest?
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had a drop-away the problem is if you ever need a second shot there is to much movement to get the dropaway back to shoot another arrow but not with the biscuit
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Originally Posted by shedhunter
I had a drop-away the problem is if you ever need a second shot there is to much movement to get the dropaway back to shoot another arrow but not with the biscuit


Sometimes I cant beleive the responses!
I wish he would tell what rest he was using.
With my Hoyt Ultratec, the riser is a bit funky, To get tuned (for me), I had the whisker biscuit resting against the riser. I just had my bow restrung and will start shooting a drop rest this spring. If I don't like it, the whisker biscuit is still in my tackle box.
I never have tried the Whisker Biscuit a lot of people have good things to say about it, but for me if it is not broken don't fix it.
"Some" of the fall away rests work great when they work correctly, but many are a bear to keep timed and tuned, especially if you hunt in rough dusty terrain. I have used a bunch of them and still like the WB by far the best. I hunt in a lot of thick oak brush that grabs at everything in all kinds of climates and weather. Fall away rests don't work very well in these conditions. The rip cords or mechanical drop away componants are always getting grabbed, snagged, bent or moved. Retuning after every trip was a total drag.

I have shot animals with my WB caked with snow, rain and even ice and it still performed perfectly. The WB has many things going for it. You can shoot straight up straight down or any other angle and it won't let your arrow fall off the rest. For quick shots especially, the WB rules You can draw quickly without fear of your arrow getting bounced up and making noise , unlike fall away rests. You can stalk around with an arrow ready and not have to worry that your arrow being in position perfectly on the rest. Give me the Whisker every time. Refletching a few arrows a year is a small price to pay for a reliable simple device that works all the time, every time with no moving parts, lubrication or cords to get snagged in the brush. Flinch
It's the last word in true functional Hunting rests.

It's like a "controlled round feed" action for archery
I have a Quick Tune 1000 with prongs/silencers and after yesterday, I believe I want a Whisker Bisket so my arrow will not roll when being drawn back etc.
I have shot both and will stay with a drop.One thing that some of the guys around here are saying is, when it gets bad cold, the WB has some issues with change of impact.
I've used a Whisker at -17 with no problems....
I have 15 yrs less experiencebowhuntin than my 3-4 bow hunter pards. They all shot drop aways. After getting tired of me showing them up during target practice with the biscuit and seeing it's the perfect hunting rest, all but one shoot the WB now.

This is as bad as the trad vs comp threads. Use what you like.
I have both. Their both fine rests.

I like the WB for teaching newer shooters or hunting at shorter ranges, tree stands and the sort. They simplify life and can be very accurate.
Their strong point? Why, full containment,of course! Their weak point? Full containment.

ANYTHING you do to that bow, before the arrow leaves the WB will be imparted to the arrow...period. Drop your bow arm, lift your head, scratch yer nutz...the arrows goin somewhere else. That's life.
Hold your form until the arrow hits and it will probably hit where you want it to.

Good golfers can play well with crummy clubs...poor golfers can't compeat with them, regardless of who made the clubs...Same thing here.

The drop aways: I personaly use the NAP 2000. It's realtivly inexpensive, easy to set up and tune and works very well. I have a nifty little plastic arrow holder thingy attached to the shelf that holds the arrow in place until I draw the arrow back to the point where the rest rises up and cradles the arrow for the shot. Thats an add-on. It cost me $3.25. The arrow slides through the holder until the rest rises. You can carry the loaded bow upside down, if you want. The arrow isn't going anywhere: Full containment!
The rest rises in about the last 3 inches of my draw and drops down out of the way in about the first 3inches of my release. As soon as the nock leaves the string, I can blow my nose if I want to...that arrow is gone and I can do it no harm.

You won't find a WB on hunting bows owned by the likes of Randy Ulmer or Cameron Hanes. Nor with competative shooters on the 3D circuit. They simply can't afford it.

Your choice of rests will be dictated by where, and how you hunt. What distance you will be shooting.

Are you shooting whitetails from a tree stand at 20-30 yards? A rutting bull elk quartering away, giving you the trophy pose at 47 yards or maybe a nervous antelope across a water hole at 40-50-60 yards?

Think about "your" shooting opportunities and choose the rest that best fits your style. Good luck and have fun. BT




Just stay with the Whisker biscuit, Keep it simple........547.
Originally Posted by Blacktail53

You won't find a WB on hunting bows owned by the likes of Randy Ulmer or Cameron Hanes. Nor with competative shooters on the 3D circuit. They simply can't afford it.



Simply put... Sponsorship. You have to take that into consideration when looking at those type of hunters. Granted they won't shoot junk gear but what they shoot does come into play with their sponsors/employers. When I first got into bow hunting I was trying to pick what a good broad head to use. This was long before internet forums and such. I found that rifling through all the success photos I could at the gun stores, taxidermist, and anywhere else I could I found that there were about 3 broad heads being used in all the photos. I went with one of them and found great success with them myself. I didn't have to spend much money 'trying out' junk broad heads or what not as well many other archery items. Granted everything else came by the way of live and learn till this message forum stuff started to come about... Much easier to research now a days.

Good luck with your choice. If you can see if anyone you know wants to swap rests for a few months to try each one out. Go in 1/2 cost with someone else interested and each test one. Same with drop away. Each has their pro's and con's but like Blacktail53 said they each suite hunters different. I hunt spot and stalk putting myself in weird crawling situations and I like how the WB holds my arrow from clanging around and I don't have to worry about it when I go to draw, read that how bad I might shake from buck fever. Put me on a 3D or target range and I'd prefer a drop away.

Thus far only when I put some helical on the vanes do I get wear. If I shot them straight no wear with a ton of shots. All my testing with my broad heads I haven't found a need for helical vanes. No added benefit thus far with my setup. Next years setup might be different. Who knows. Kind of why I love the game. Ya get to tinker...

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I'm getting the new Deluxe Whisker Biscuit Arrow Rest, I had some real good advice on this from a personal friend of mine.... and ah well she has been shooting bow a lot more years than I have. laugh
There are a lot of drop away rest out there. The Muzzy Zero effect has been out there for a number of years now. The Zero effect is my favorite rest to date. Nothing wrong with a WB IMHO though you will gain a few fps with the drop away.

The WB is like training wheels for the bow. With the arrow fully contained there will be little for the shooter to concentrate on except the target, good form & follow through.
The turkey claw on the ZE effectively contains the arrow also in most conventional shooting forms. Yet with the drop away there is some forgiveness when one fails with there shooting forum.

There is a learning curve involved in learning to get the most from any drop away rest. And the rewards in increased fletching life and accuracy are all worth the effort to me.
I like my training wheels wink Flinch

You can be more accurate with the drop away, but the wisker is second to none with keeping the arrow in place during the draw.

Spot
I just got a Whisker Biscuit and shot it for the first time on Sunday. I hadn't shot my bow since late 2005. After half a dozen arrows, I was shooting as well as I ever did with my Quik Tune 2000 a year and a half ago.

I never had training wheels on my bike when I was a kid, and paid for it with the skin off my knees and thighs. Now that I'm older, I like the concept!
I hunt with a Trophy Ridge Drop Zone and am completely satisfied. Easy to set up, arrow sits down in the v-notch, nicely accurate, and my fletching isn't contacting anything but air. Works for me.
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