Went to the range last weekend and shot a couple of different loads I've been working on. Using nosler 130gr BT with RL 19 and RL22. In the second target I might have pulled a little but I'll get back out there soon and make sure. Out of these two loads what would you pick to shoot. Notice the different speeds of the two loads.

Of the 2 loads and if for sure you might have pulled the shot (I would shoot more of course) I would have to choose the second load, once again if and only if you knew you pulled the shot and could verify with more groups.

The second one, no doubt about it ;); I would just shoot again and not worry about the shot that is "out". Better yet, get out to long range and shoot it and don't worry.

Even if I didn't pull it its still under 1" and moving 340fps faster. I think more range work needs to be done!

Hell, yeah! Looks like a keeper to me!

I'd be a little concerned about pressure of the 2nd load. I'm a big 270WSM fan (have 3 now, had 2 others), but that's faster than anything I've seen for a 130 (published or personally) -3200-3300fps seems about tops to me.

TXRAM: That IS a good point;went right over my head.. what you said is about what I have gotten from the cartridge too.Might have to back off but the rifle seems accurate with anything.

Yeah it's hot, a 130 should run 3300. Back it off to 3300 and go kill the crap out of stuff.

Nosler's 130 gr max load of RL 22 is 65gr for 3396 FPS with a 24" barrel. With many cartridges Nosler data runs 100+ faster than most other places even with reduced charges. For other references, Alliant and Speer data shows 66gr with 130 speer givin 3228 fps; Swift shows 67 gr for 3278 fps; Barnes shows 67.5 for 3235 fps. In any case, you are inline with Nosler data.

Lou

I think either loads gonna kill them dead!!!

Max loads in my Tikka T3 270WSM run around 3336 with 130 grain Hornady SP's and at 3256 with 130 grain TSX's.
If your rifle happens to have a fast barrel like the one used in the Nosler ballistics lab then 3396 is feasible but only just barely IMO.
What kind of SD are you seeing with those loads?

I changed out to CCI magnum primers and my RL22 load shrank to .481" 3 shot group. I think I'm leaving it at that!

The first one is very tempting but you are shooting a 270WSM and those velocities are very close to a plain 270.

If you don't care about that then I'd pick the first one and call it doen but otherwise you need to test some more.

Regards
JohnT

What powder and how much were you using?????I cannot get near those velocities with my Tikka T-3 Lite.

Try about 63.5 grains of H4831sc with a GM215M and call it good!

My grouping got tighter with the hotter, faster load than the first pic. At almost 3400 fps is kickin a regular 270 A$$

You may want to back off, just in case your approaching high pressures. What was the temperature the day you shot them? I know Texas never really cools off but, the pressure will probably go down some come fall and *ahem* "winter". As far as which group? Unless you plan on shooting 321.58 yards or more who cares?

Only thing I might be worried about with the second is an impact inside 100 yards or so with a Ballistic Tip moving about 3300fps, as Nosler lists the suggested max impact velocity for the Ballistic Tips as 3000fps. In that case, maybe the first group is best, or try out a 140gr Accubond or 130(?) Scirocco, or whatever.

MagPro powder in both cases.
74 grains behind the TSX and 75 behind the Hornady. Loads were taken right from the Accurate powder website.
I was using Winchester LR primers but will also try LRM primers.
My SD for both loads is too high for my liking though, 29 with the Hornady and 24 with the TSX. Both were just under MOA at 200 yards though.

max distance for shooting game here on this ranch is more than anyone cn shot! Its common her to pratice 300-500 yards. South texas is pretty flat and no big trees to be found! Plus I'm in a 20ft high shooting box.

I would back the R22 load down a little and work the R19 load up to about 66grn. Both should give you around 3300fps. Both powders appear to be capable of grouping in your rifle. With shots over 300yds, a load with low ES and SD will benefit you more than that last 150fps ever will.

My rifle happens to like Magpro and the 140gr Accubond. I chose it over the 130's because I am actually gaining by using the heavier, higher B.C bullet at the same relative velocity as the 130's. The load I shoot is 72.5gr and averages 3260fps with a nice low SD.

Thanks for the info.I have never used that powder,but will now.I would not worry about that SD with that kind of accuracy.Thanks ,Huntz

I got high pressures in summer heat with MagPro! The load that was good in the 270 WSM in the late fall showed very high pressure shooting the loads up in the summmer. I would not use MagPro in any load.

I worked up these loads in 80+ degree temps so they should be just fine in November when it's 20 degrees.
I like how MagPro meters and I like my velocity. I haven't gotten good results with H4350, H4381,or Varget. Barely 270 Winchester velocities and similar SD and accuracy. I have had good luck with RL22. 69 grains behind a 130 grain Hornady SP average 3262 with a 19 SD and MOA accuracy. The same charge behind a Sierra ProHunter 130 grain gets me 3191 and 25 SD.
Still have to experiment with RL17 when I can finally get some but for now MagPro is my powder of choice for the 270WSM.
BTW Huntz, seems that any load I put into the Tikka shoots MOA. The Hornady SP is consistently the fastest bullet in my rifle.

Agree with you on the accuracy.I just tried out my new 6.5X 55.Shoots 1/2" with Speer 140`s.I have not chrono`d it yet.

RL 22 is probably the worst powder that I have ever tried in my 270 wsm, I had to burn a pound and a half to find that out, it is very temperature sensitive, it's lot to lot performance is erratic. IMR 4831 works best in my 270 WSM with 130 gr Barnes xlc bullets, Ramshot magnum gives me top velocity with Barnes 150 gr X bullet and 150 gr Nosler partitions, I am getting 3/4" groups with the Barnes 150's. Going to test the partition load for accuracy this weekend, I put about 400 rounds through my rifle before I found the right loads. I am getting around 2980 fps with the 150's and 3250 fps with the 130's.

400 rounds to get the right load?! DAMN!!!

My wsm LOVES 4831sc with 140 NAB's. 63-64 grains sparked by a F215GM.

I guess that's why they make so many different powders. What works great in one rifle doesn't work well in another.
As for the alleged temperature sensitivity issue in RL22 and MagPro, if it exists at all it is a non-issue for me since all of the rifle whitetail season in Northern Minnesota takes place when it's darn cold outside. Work up a good load in the summer and then check your zero before whitetail season when it's cold. Never get a pressure problem and in my years of handloading I've never seen a significant shift of zero when it gets cold.
Nothing else really matters other than that first shot out of a cold barrel anyway.

I love Magpro groups are 1/2 to 3/4 inch Nosler 140 grain Accubonds here is my loads in 85 degrees 74grains, 3320,3335,3340,65 degrees 3324,3309,3320. Factory loads Winchester Fail Safes,140 grain,3149,3225,3207, Federal 140 grain Accubonds 3214,3210,3210,Winchester 130 BT's 3260, 3276,3245. Gotta love that Magpro.

My RL22 load is fine acording to the nosler book and the RL19 load did worse as it went up in grains!

I know 400 rounds is alot of shooting just to find a good load. My problem is that my 270 wsm has a slow barrel, I was trying to get at least 3300 fps for 130 grn bullets and 3100 for 150's. I did get to 3300 plus when I first got the rifle, that was with 130 gr Barnes xlc, I was using an old lot of Dupont 4831 that was about 25 years old, trouble is I ran out of that powder, I only had enough to load about twenty rounds, it averaged 3303 for a ten shot string. I then went to RL 19, could not get much over 3250 with that powder and bullet combination, went back to IMR 4831, it did a little better than the Rl-19. Gave up on the 130's for awhile, and bought a couple of boxes of the 150 gr discontinued X bullet and a couple of boxes of Nosler partition gold bullets which are also discontinued , bought a pound of RL-22 and a pound of Ramshot magnum, I was lucky to get 2 1/2" groups with the RL 22 and the Barnes bullets, was getting about 2920 out of a ten shot string. The Ramshot was giving me about 2980 with both bullets. To make a long story short the 130 grain bullets work best with IMR 4831, the 150 gr bullets work best with ramshot magnum, I like the ramshot because it cost about five bucks less than the RL 22 or IMR powders, also as you can tell I like the discontinued bullets by Barnes and Nosler, I can get them for about forty percent less than the TSX or standard nosler partitions, I am getting 1 inch groups with the Barnes X bullets, I have yet to test the Noslers for accuracy. I have realized that my rifle will never reach the velocity that I wanted.