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Posted By: johnw 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/08/16
First off, has anyone found and used the Hornady ELD-X? Haven't found any available yet, but I'm looking forward to trying them.

I read a fair bit about the 130 AB, but didn't know there was a 140 AB til I bought my .260 and started shopping on-line for bullets. Is it new or is it just ignored by most?

Also curious about the hybrid profile hunting bullets from Berger, if anyone has experience with them. Doesn't seem a big deal to seat the s.o. bullets correctly but my experience is limited and maybe I'm missing something.

Anybody know why the Partition 140 has a better b.c. than the Accubond 140?
Posted By: Azar Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/08/16
Originally Posted by johnw
Anybody know why the Partition 140 has a better b.c. than the Accubond 140?

It doesn't.
6.5mm 140g Partition: 0.490 B.C.
6.5mm 140g Accubond: 0.509 B.C.
Posted By: MuskegMan Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/08/16

That 140 AB has a loooooong shank compared to other more aero 139/140 offerings.

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Posted By: johnw Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/08/16
My bad on the Accubond b.c. numbers. I think I musta been looking at the 130's .488 b.c. instead.

And yeah... I can see the difference in profile vs the sleeker s.o. bullets.

Anybody use the amax for hunting? My best group so far is a bit under .5 inches with the 123 gr. That's 3 at 100. also did 3 in 1.2 at 200, same load...
Posted By: Dogshooter Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/08/16
Couple years ago I turfed a blacktail buck at 40yds with a 123 Amax outta a .260.... muzzle velocity was about 2950. That bullet destroyed the lungs and exited.... the deer went down poste haste.

My girlfriend shot a Mule Deer buck last season with a 130 Accubond at 90yds.... also out of a .260, muzzle velocity was 2800fps. That bullet went through about 2 feet of deer before exiting.... The deer bounced it went down so fast.

Anymore.... we shoot the 123 Amax at steel/vermin.... and the 130 Accubond for punching tags. We now have two teenagers who passed hunter's safety this winter.... so we'll have a half-dozen elk tags and a bunch of doe tags to fill this fall..... it'll be 130 Accubonds at them all, either out of the suppressed .260 at 2800.... or the 6.5 Swede at 2950.
Posted By: gerry35 Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/08/16
Hey Dogshooter have you tried the 130 gr Sierra TMK yet? Not sure how it would be on game but I bet it shoots great.

Johnw, I have only shot the 140 gr Accubond on paper but not on game, it is accurate though. In my wife's Tikka 6.5x55 the 140 gr partition shoots ok but I may give the 140 gr Accubond a whirl as a heavy game bullet. For deer we like the 120 gr Ballistic Tip.

Since I have other guns for big animals I have started to use bullets around 130 gr more in my 260 Rem since they can be moved a fair bit faster on average (in my gun 2700 fps tops with 140's and 2850-2900 with 130's). Last fall I shot 2 deer with the 140 gr Ballistic Tip and 3 with the 130 gr Accubond and couldn't tell the difference in wound channels between them. This year the 130 gr Sierra HPBT will get the nod for deer and I'm seriously considering going back to the 129 gr Nosler ABLR for longer range shots. Had some good success a few years ago with the ABLR bullet on deer. I thought hard about the 143 gr ELD-X but think I'll pass for now. There are so many great 6.5mm bullets these days it's hard to pick one smile good thing so many of them will work well.
Posted By: Darkker Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/08/16
Originally Posted by johnw


Also curious about the hybrid profile hunting bullets from Berger


The Hybrids aren't the hunting bullets, they are target bullets. Essentially they have a thicker jacket, so if you want expansion, pay close attention to impact velocity; they do need more than the VLD Hunting bullets.
They do open violently still, just gotta keep them moving.
Posted By: johnw Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/08/16
This is a new rifle and new cartridge for me, and I'm just playing with options. Best accuracy so far was with the 123 amax and H4831 which is the powder I have the most of on the shelf.

I'll get around to some of the heavier bullets. Likely start with the 140 BT. I'm a believer in the ballistic tip in other set-ups, from the .222 to the fast .30s.

Really wanna run the ELD-X and see what it does. Offers a lot on paper for it's cost, but simply can't find them.

Cannot find anymore h4350 anywhere, and I'm into my last pound of that.

Did find some AA4350. Any experiences/opinions?
Posted By: johnw Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/08/16
The mag box on my rifle runs to ~3.125" so I have all kinds of room to load all kinds of bullets.

The 120 bt makes the lands at 2.825.

The 123 amax makes up at 2.855.

Been running both at .015 off.
Posted By: gerry35 Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/08/16
Originally Posted by johnw
This is a new rifle and new cartridge for me, and I'm just playing with options. Best accuracy so far was with the 123 amax and H4831 which is the powder I have the most of on the shelf.

I'll get around to some of the heavier bullets. Likely start with the 140 BT. I'm a believer in the ballistic tip in other set-ups, from the .222 to the fast .30s.

Really wanna run the ELD-X and see what it does. Offers a lot on paper for it's cost, but simply can't find them.

Cannot find anymore h4350 anywhere, and I'm into my last pound of that.

Did find some AA4350. Any experiences/opinions?


H 4350 is a great powder and have had success with IMR 4350 so I would imagine AA 4550 should work well. IMR 7828 ssc is another good one especially with medium to heavy weight bullets. Initial work with IMR 4451 has been positive. Got to run but will check in later.
Posted By: Dogshooter Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/08/16
Gerry..... I've not shot any of the new 130 TMKs..... and probably won't unless someone gives me a box. The 123 Amax absolutely nukes furry stuff under about 25lbs... shoots lights out.... and can be had for less than $25 a box.
Posted By: Dogshooter Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/08/16
Coyote vs. 123 Amax....... now that's violent!

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Posted By: 264wm Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/08/16
Here is some choices and I have add a couple since this was taken. The Sierra 85 gr HP and the Woodleigh 160gr PPSN.
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Posted By: scottishkat Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/09/16
I really like the 260 have owned 5 of them at one time or another. The 140 NAB and H4831SC has shot really well from all. For deer hunting the 140's IMO are a bit slow depending on firearm. I would anticipate the velocity and accuracy of the ELDX to be great as well. The 140 and 123 AMAX are really good deer hunting bullets along with the 120 NBT.

Is your rifle a 1in 8 twist? I would try the 120TSX or TTSX. Try this web site no info on ELDX but I would anticipate performance similar to NAB it may expand a little better as its length/ogive is different. IMO the 140 NAB is a tough bullet better suited for a faster cartridge.

http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.260+Remington.html

Good luck and shoot straight

Bob
Posted By: JPro Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/09/16
Fine results here with the 130AB and the 129LRAB at 2,800-2,900fps.
Posted By: Kimber7man Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/10/16
No love for the Berger 130 VLD Hunting here? At .260 and 6.5 Creed velocities, it does quite well.
Posted By: gerry35 Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/10/16
Originally Posted by Kimber7man
No love for the Berger 130 VLD Hunting here? At .260 and 6.5 Creed velocities, it does quite well.


Never used it. What kind of performance can one expect from it?
Posted By: Hondo64d Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/10/16
Originally Posted by Kimber7man
No love for the Berger 130 VLD Hunting here? At .260 and 6.5 Creed velocities, it does quite well.


I've killed quite a bit of stuff with the 130gr Berger Hunting VLD. It is my favorite 6.5 hunting bullet.

John
Posted By: mathman Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/10/16
Originally Posted by Hondo64d
Originally Posted by Kimber7man
No love for the Berger 130 VLD Hunting here? At .260 and 6.5 Creed velocities, it does quite well.


I've killed quite a bit of stuff with the 130gr Berger Hunting VLD. It is my favorite 6.5 hunting bullet.

John


Does it shoot well through your Low Wall?
Posted By: Dogshooter Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/10/16
Killed pronghorn doe with a 130 VLD outta the 6.5x47 couple years back.... range was a bit over 500, and she never knew what hit her. Bullet exited, and did horrible things to the lungs....

ALL of my 6.5s have shot the 123 Scenar better than the 130 VLD.... and I'd trust them about the same on big game.

139 Scenar also has a pretty good reputation for hammering big game.... but I've yet to shoot a critter with one.
Posted By: Seafire Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/10/16
Geesh, I'm old school...

I usually use the 100 grainers on deer sized stuff...at 3350ish fps MV, its dropped stuff like a sack of potatoes at over 300 yds...and I never lost site of the game during recoil with a Leupold set on 4 power...

Low recoil loads with a 85 grain HP have been more than effective to 200 yds or so... for kids...or those that don't need a 500 yd load for shooting deer at 100 or so...

My uses have been predominantly
85 HP Sierra
100 HP Sierra
100 SP Hornady
100 Partition
105 Partition ( European bullet, from Shooter's Pro Shop, factory overruns)
120 Ballistic Tip
129 SP Hornady
140 SP Hornady
140 Ballistic Tip
140 SP Sierra
140 SP Remington...

everyone of them have been lethal, on the spot...

from 50 to 300 yds +....

don't require all these new fancy projectiles.. when old stuff has been tried and proven for decades...

but then you're talking about a guy who runs a lot of 4064, and surprising number of 4198 and RL 7 loads with the 260 also... so what do I know? whistle
Posted By: 264wm Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/10/16
Yes it is a Shilen 30 inch barrel with 1 in 8 twist. The lighter bullets are very accurate in it. Still working on the heaver ones but I like the 160gr Woodleigh bullet more than the 160gr hornady round nose.
Posted By: johnw Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/10/16
Originally Posted by Darkker
Originally Posted by johnw


Also curious about the hybrid profile hunting bullets from Berger


The Hybrids aren't the hunting bullets, they are target bullets. Essentially they have a thicker jacket, so if you want expansion, pay close attention to impact velocity; they do need more than the VLD Hunting bullets.
They do open violently still, just gotta keep them moving.


This may be correct as far as the 6.5 bullets go, but I've watched a couple of videos that pump up the capabilities of the hybrid hunting bullet.
Can not find a 6.5 hunting hybrid to save my life...

Posted By: johnw Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/10/16
Nothing wrong with old school, but it's not really why I bought this rifle. I bought it to stretch some horizons.

At the same time I'm lazy enough to appreciate a bullet that's easier to load for like the hybrid berger.

I do have a bunch of IMR 4064 and 4895. The 4064 hasn't been cracked open since my old 22-250 left home.
Posted By: johnw Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/10/16
Originally Posted by scottishkat


Is your rifle a 1in 8 twist? I would try the 120TSX or TTSX. Try this web site no info on ELDX but I would anticipate performance similar to NAB it may expand a little better as its length/ogive is different. IMO the 140 NAB is a tough bullet better suited for a faster cartridge.

http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.260+Remington.html

Good luck and shoot straight

Bob


Yes, and as mentioned above it has ample room in the mag box.
Posted By: Dogshooter Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/10/16
39.5 grains of 4064 behind a 123 Amax out of a couple .260s, has been the demise of many, many prairie dogs. It shoots the same place and same velocity as 45 grains of H4350..... but it isn't as temp stable.
Posted By: Hondo64d Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/10/16
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by Hondo64d
Originally Posted by Kimber7man
No love for the Berger 130 VLD Hunting here? At .260 and 6.5 Creed velocities, it does quite well.


I've killed quite a bit of stuff with the 130gr Berger Hunting VLD. It is my favorite 6.5 hunting bullet.

John


Does it shoot well through your Low Wall?


I have actually never tried them through the Low Wall.

John
Posted By: mathman Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/10/16
I didn't remember if you had already said so or not. I don't think the Low Walls have the twist for that bullet, they're on the slow side for a 6.5 if I remember correctly.

My friend's Low Wall shoots great with your old H4831 load using the 129 Interlock, so a good while back he bought some of the Bergers thinking one grain wouldn't make a difference. Now that he's finally getting around to the handloading lessons I've promised him, the Bergers came out of storage and I said let's not try those just yet. They may need to become trade bait.
Posted By: Hondo64d Re: 6.5 hunting bullets? - 04/11/16
They might work. The .260 Low Walls are twisted 1:9. I never tried them in mine just because it's not really configured for long range and it has worked well with 129gr Hornadys and 130gr Accubonds.

John
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