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Posted By: RTSJ Pulled factory bullets. - 07/18/16
Pulled hunting Bullets like the fusions from fed. What has been ur experience with them? Ive read some reports of no where near as accurate to no difference. I've found some tipped trophy bonded bullets and fusions id like to try but hate to waste the money on the quantity if they aren't accurate.

Thanks Roy
If the factory loads are accurate enough, why are you pulling the bullets?
Posted By: ned Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 07/18/16
That's a good question and I don't know the answer but will tell you what I do. I don't even shoot the bullets I pull myself. With all the time I spend focused on all the other parts of reloading, with accuracy being the end goal, I don't want to deal with issues that could be introduced by pulled bullets.

Are there issues? I have no idea, but others with more knowledge of the subject may say they are fine. Certainly possible I just imagine they could introduce accuracy issues.

I don't think there is any adverse effect on the terminal ballistics or when working uploads for speed/pressure testing but will stand corrected if needed.
Posted By: RTSJ Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 07/18/16
Let me rephrase. These r pulled fed factory bullets being sold from 2 different places not from me. That is why I was asking. I've done tons of reloading but never once pulled bullets.

Roy
Originally Posted by RTSJ
Let me rephrase. These r pulled fed factory bullets being sold from 2 different places not from me. That is why I was asking. I've done tons of reloading but never once pulled bullets.

Roy


If they are a good bullet to start with, pulled hunting bullets are just fine. I also shoot pull down powder, and once fired brass. However I avoid once fired primers.
Posted By: bobnob17 Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 07/18/16
I find impact hammer pulled bullets don't seem to shoot as accurate. Groups tend to blow out by around 50% give or take.
Posted By: wyoming260 Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 07/18/16
My somewhat fussy 7x57 shoots 160 gr "Old Style " trophy bondeds fine. 1-1.5" at 100. they were pulled from federal factory 7mm weatherby ammo and my brother used very little care when he was pulling them. He wanted the cases and dinged up most of the noses. but they will still kill an elk. Someday!
Posted By: southtexas Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 07/18/16
Can someone explain how these companies that sell pulled bullets make money?

Why are the bullets pulled? Who pulls them? What happens to the other components?

And how can you make money using expensive factory ammo as your raw material and them selling the bullets for less than the cost of new bullets from Sierra, Speer, etc?
Posted By: Huntinut Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 07/18/16
There was a guy at Wanenmachers Tulsa Arms show selling gobs of em, 243, 270, 7mm and 30. He said they were pulled by Federal due finding an issue with a run of powder they'd used in those. Don't know the validity but sounds like a reasonable reason.
Posted By: Joe Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 07/19/16
I doubt you'll ever notice the difference. You probably won't believe it but, I was a witness to it.
I have a friend who use to buy surplus from the government and he bought several barrels of p/d 5.56 bullets. These had been demilled by running them through teethed rollers and they looked horrible. He ran them through a 5.56 carbide bullet die to round them back out....just to see. Then loaded 25 rounds and went to the range....just to see. I told him he was wasting powder and primers and I'd never shoot them in a gun I liked. Well, it turned out the smallest 5 shot group was an inch while the largest was a little over 2". Impressed me!
Posted By: Tejano Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 07/19/16
Can't generalize about all pulled bullets. I have used surplus pulled bullets for casual shooting and they were a great deal. I would order some and test them out and if good then stock up. Worst case is you might want to do some sorting or at least inspection before using them to hunt. If from a creditable source that would allow you to return them if not satisfied then hard to go wrong.
So you fellas don't think these will shoot ok?

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I bought 2k for plinker rounds, but they look like new bullets after 30min in SS media. I've bought a bunch of demilled brass as well and it's as good as virgin.
Posted By: hanco Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/02/16
How do they air pull bullets
Posted By: bobnob17 Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/03/16
Impact pulled don't shoot as accurate. But I already said that.
Posted By: KenMi Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/03/16
Just jam a cotton ball in the bottom of the impact puller. The bullet hitting the end is what dents them up. If there is a cushion, they will look like new, no matter what tips they have.

And, if you have old dull, tarnished ones, an hour or two in a stainless tumbler gets them brand new. And it does no harm to plastic or lead tips. Also, a great way to remove moly from bullets if you don't want it.
Posted By: Bbear Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/04/16
Cotton ball, wad of bubble wrap, used rubber ear plug all will protect the bullet pulled in a kinetic (hammer) puller.

The pulls I've had I've never noticed a difference in accuracy or effect on paper or game. I haven't purchased and pull-downs though so can't speak to all
Posted By: deflave Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/04/16
Originally Posted by RTSJ
Pulled hunting Bullets like the fusions from fed. What has been ur experience with them? Ive read some reports of no where near as accurate to no difference. I've found some tipped trophy bonded bullets and fusions id like to try but hate to waste the money on the quantity if they aren't accurate.

Thanks Roy


You'll have no issues.




Dave
Posted By: Mule Deer Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/04/16
Impact-pulled bullets can shoot weird even with something soft in the bottom of the puller to keep them from being deformed. Before they even leave the case, the cores of cup-and-core bullets can be loosened slightly. You'll never notice any difference in appearance, but some will be unbalanced.

This can't happen to bonded or mono bullets, but it definitely does to cup-and-cores--and you can't tell from looking at them which ones are loose.
Posted By: bobnob17 Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/05/16
Yes MD, I had a bunch of different cup and core ammo, some given to me, and impact pulled the bullets. 270cal, 30cal, 22 and 25cal. Some 45-70 as well.

They were fine for shooting pigs at moderate range and practicing, but 0.75moa guns suddenly became 1-2moa guns with the pulled bullets.
Posted By: 10gaugemag Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/05/16
Originally Posted by southtexas
Can someone explain how these companies that sell pulled bullets make money?

Why are the bullets pulled? Who pulls them? What happens to the other components?

And how can you make money using expensive factory ammo as your raw material and them selling the bullets for less than the cost of new bullets from Sierra, Speer, etc?


I know of an on line outfit that sells the bullets and prim ed/unprimed brass. Some pretty good deals in my mind.

Their powder seems pretty high to me though.
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/05/16
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Impact-pulled bullets can shoot weird even with something soft in the bottom of the puller to keep them from being deformed. Before they even leave the case, the cores of cup-and-core bullets can be loosened slightly. You'll never notice any difference in appearance, but some will be unbalanced.

This can't happen to bonded or mono bullets, but it definitely does to cup-and-cores--and you can't tell from looking at them which ones are loose.


John, I think that I remember reading an article by some guy that dealt with boxes of bullets that had been dropped on a hard surface being adversely affected in regards to accuracy. Seems like whacking them around with an inertia puller would achieve the same outcome.
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/05/16
Of course, you are going to run into some misguided souls who will maintain that chopped bullets are just as good as pulled ones. smile
Posted By: efw Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/06/16
Originally Posted by ned
That's a good question and I don't know the answer but will tell you what I do. I don't even shoot the bullets I pull myself. With all the time I spend focused on all the other parts of reloading, with accuracy being the end goal, I don't want to deal with issues that could be introduced by pulled bullets.

Are there issues? I have no idea, but others with more knowledge of the subject may say they are fine. Certainly possible I just imagine they could introduce accuracy issues.

I don't think there is any adverse effect on the terminal ballistics or when working uploads for speed/pressure testing but will stand corrected if needed.


Never had issues at all w/ pulled bullets, tho I use em for field practice not for load development or hunting.

Some gun writer did an experiment w/ deformed tips at 100 yds and found no difference at all... I mean he REALLY deformed some tips; not just smashed like pulled bullets.

Obviously that test doesn't take into account slipped jackets like MD mentioned...
Posted By: sbhooper Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/06/16
I have never had an issue with pulled bullets, but moa accuracy is more than good enough for me. I used to pull them with the inertia hammer and was not happy with the damage to the bullets-even with a pad.

Now I use the Grip-N-Pull for all of them and have only a minor scuff around the bullet midway.
Posted By: 2muchgun Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/06/16
I have pulled very, very few bullets and loaded many, many rounds.

I would never purposely buy pulled bullets. Why? And if I did pull a bullet, it is then considered a "flier" and not used for anything other than initial sight in or velocity testing, etc. In other words, I'd not shoot it at a critter or in any kind of a match.

Why take chances or second guess yourself? Purposely buying bullets that are potentially fuuked up doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, on several levels.

JMO....
Posted By: bellydeep Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/07/16
I'm not sure why impact pulled bullets keeps coming up. If these were pulled by the factory, they weren't done in an impact puller.
Posted By: hanco Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/07/16
Tumbler with stainless media will make tarnished bullets look new.
Shot just fine for me...
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/08/16
Originally Posted by hanco
Tumbler with stainless media will make tarnished bullets look new.



And under suitable conditions, an egg becomes a chicken, but there are no chickens born of stones.
Posted By: Mule Deer Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/08/16
bellydeep,

The subject of impact-pulled bullets comes up because many shooters assume the same things are true of ALL pulled bullets, and they aren't.
Posted By: hanco Re: Pulled factory bullets. - 08/18/16
I sure wouldn't take a chance in a trophy animal with a pulled bullet. It would be in the back of my mind the whole time. They would be OK for pig shooting.
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