Got this on a trade awhile back and am thinning my herd. It came with some dark stains on either side of the trigger guard but they were not deep. Was able to get them out with steel wool and then refinished the entire area. You can't tell they were there. I do not know the round count but bore is pristine. Some bluing wear near the muzzle, on the tip of the bolt handle, and on the trigger guard but overall in very nice condition. Can send more pics to any interested parties. Comes with the factory rings.
$850.00 shipped to your FFL. No trades.

Someone buy this!

I need one in stainless/synthetic not pretty wood and blue.

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Man I am a Sako fanatic

800.00 shipped. One and only drop. If it doesn't sell by this Sat., she's going to the gun show with me.

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OK; last drop; 750.00 shipped.

The Sako came today, you have a PM

The pictures you posted were flattering, however the damaged parts were not pictured, nor was the floor plate that is actually rust not bluing wear. The pristine bore is somewhat less than pristine having throat erosion from many rounds fired in it, much less the rust pitting in the neck of the chamber and the first inch of the barrel. Everything about this rifle shows hard use. I simply asked for a refund and I stated I would pay for the return shipping. I'll get some pictures posted today.

I'd be interested in seeing these pics - hopefully things can easily be resolved between you two!!

I advertised the rifle honestly; either showing or reporting the areas of concern. There was NO rust on the floorplate when I shipped it. My estimation of the bore was gained from looking at it when held to a bright light; I never stipulated that I borescoped the barrel, which he claims he did in order to see the rust/pitting he is claiming is there. I honestly don't see where a full refund is justified in this case.

unreal

a refund might preclude this from developing into an problem that could damage names and reputations. just a thought!

Me smell horse manure Kemosabee

The seller said he had additional pics available, Im curious if the buyer asked for the additional photos?

The only way I would refund a rifle purchase is if the buyer paid return shipping, covered the cost that was spent to send the rifle in the first place, and lastly, cover the FFL transfer fee for it coming back to me.

You think I should cover all the cost involved in shipping this rifle? If the rifle was as advertised I would be trying to return it.

If it wasn't represented correctly, the buyer should get a FULL refund...shipping, ffl,and nics if used.

Looks like rust to me

C'mon man!

Looks more like corrosion to me.

Wonder how she shoots? If she bugholes, I'd work on a deal to replace the plate.

I personally offer three day inspection, no questions asked. That should be the norm.

It does not matter if it is rust or corrosion. Was the blemish disclosed?

I looked at buying this rifle several different times. Glad I passed and opted for a CZ 550 in 30-06. Hope the buyer and seller and resolve amongst themselves.

The rifle was clearly misrepresented, the rust on the rifle's bolt body was removed with what looks like steel wool, you can still see very small pits in the finish. As we all know Sako bolts are polished.

The rust does look like it might be fresh, in about 1982..

You have a right to be unhappy, IMO.

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I bought a rifle once from a gentleman on gunbroker. Turns out he found two steaks of rust inthe bore at the muzzle. I took a chance and paid for it anyway. I received the rifle, shot it, cleaned the barrel, and found far more rust steaks than first thought. The seller offered to refund the full price, or give me $200 towards a new barrel. It shot well so we settled on a $50 refund. All worked out well. This one can also.........

This rifle has really been neglected, it also has bore damage from rust at the chamber neck and about an inch up the bore. The rifle doesn't match the description he posted.
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Chamber neck


It would appear someone cleaned the bore to a spotless condition as there is no carbon or copper in the bore. One would think the rifle probably didn't shoot well and someone thought it needed a good cleaning?

No dog in this fight, someone needs to step up.IMHO

That is not worn blueing and a pristine bore. I would want a refund and if I was the seller I would take it back if for no other reason that to keep my good name. I don't spend any of the money I recieve until I have followed up on a sale and the buyer is happy. It makes it easy to refund the money for an unsatisfied customer. It's not worth trashing my reputation for a few dollars even if I feel I'm right.

Joe Krumm aka krummarine advertised this rifle on several other sites. I'm really surprised he did this in the way he did. One can only wonder if he needed the money so bad he would trash his name to get it. I'll bet if his name was google'd what would pop up. I think I'll take a look.

Let me save you some time, Rusky. I did advertise the rifle on several other boards; Basically the same ad; I had dropped the price from 850.00 to 700.00 shipped when you sent a PM offering an even lower price. Needing the funds, I accepted your offer. I will say that you also added to the offer in order to cover shipping insurance. I did not misrepresent this rifle. The bore condition was based on visual inspection, not a borescope. All other areas of wear were pointed out in the wording of the ad and/or the pics provided. More pics were available and I sent some to those requesting them. I took this rifle to a local gun show where 8-12 people examined it, to include a collector of Sako's with many for sale on his table and they all agreed that it was a nice example of AV series and my asking price was very reasonable. A couple commented that because it was a 30-06, they didn't think they could re-sell it very quickly as it is too common a caliber.

I think you're whining because you didn't get a 900.00 rifle for 650.00 like you thought you were and now that you know you can't turn around and flip it for a nice profit, you want your money back. I disagree. I have done numerous exchanges on this board, with no problems or issues. I see you are determined to drag my name down over this and I guess that's your perogitive but it won't change my original stance.

Thats a lame excuse for sticking it in someones azz. I'm done with ya. bye

What a bullschit reply!! So for $650 you are going to let your name be dragged through the mud (and rightfully so)?? Just give the guy his money back & have him ship you back the rifle - end of story!!

You have pretty much ruined you reputation for $650 - that is [bleep]' lame!!

Lets get the numbers right. I paid you $15.00 extra for insurance. The total shipping costs were $31.86 for parcel post. How in the world can you say I paid $650.00 for this rifle, when I sent you a USPS MO for $700.00. Your sense of fair play is missing a thing or two. Did you get this rifle from Nygren?

Make it right man.

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Anyone who buys/sells from the classifieds has a dog in this fight.

He's not wanting to refund Rusky's money cause it's a piece of [bleep]. Anything I sell on 24hr..ANYTHING, I would allow a return if buyer is not happy. Why?....Because I'm not a tightrod cheapass like some people.....AND I value my rep on 24hr.

Rusky, I'd suggest starting a new thread in classified if seller can't work with you. Let 24hr members give opinions on this deal.

Krummarine, so if the seller would have gave you $900 you'd given a refund? C'mon man you got 1700 post on 24hr....you should know better.

Based on the pictures alone the seller should refund the purchase price and all shipping immediately. The further this incident goes the further his reputation will be damaged.There wil be many more comments once he strikes his colors.

Obviously you don't want to buy anything from Krummarine.

Ok; Russ. My math was wrong. You got the rifle for 685.00. My mistake.

Then refund $685 and be done with this!!

How much he paid is immaterial. If he is not a happy customer then refund all his money and take it back.You will loose far more in the end by being hard headed than he will loose in rifle value. If your reputation isn't worth the loss of shipping cost and transfer fee then you aren't worth a damn as a man.

And my mistake was trusting the long range pictures you posted. The description lead everyone to believe the rifle was in excellent shape, which is an out and out lie.

"I think you're whining because you didn't get a 900.00 rifle for 650.00 like you thought you were and now that you know you can't turn around and flip it for a nice profit, you want your money back."

The record is pretty clear here. The search engine on this site will tell anyone that looks I don't sell many firearms on the Internet. Therefore the statement you made about flipping it for a profit is nothing more than a smoke screen to cover your dishonest transaction.

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I'm going to do a complete new write up on this rifle deal and post it in several places. I will include some new pictures that more than explain the condition of this rifle.

Sounds like a good plan. Krudmarine has a barreled action listed on several sites and describes the barrel as "pristine." I immediately think of your bad deal.

I tried to warn the guy buying the pristine bore Remington barreled action but he had already sent the money. He's at the mercy of krummarine now.
For all those guys who talk about post counts , well , 1700 + and he's still a lowlife. I notice he's looking for new boards to sell on now. Id say he has no intention to make things right.

I appreciate everyone's concern. I've all ready contacted the gentleman and assured him that if he is not happy with the barreled action, I'll take it back and refund his money. I described it as accurately as I could via an ad and a picture, just like I do for all sales. Never had a problem with any of them. You can check my 77 positive reviews on Gunbroker as well.

Daveinjax: 33 posts and you're slinging names and accusations; really?

And krum goes on ignore..

Daveinjax: 33 posts and you're slinging names and accusations; really?

I am not sure what the number of posts someone has on this site has to do with their knowledge or honesty. Witness your almost 1800 posts.

krum goes on ignore with me too.

That could have been me actually. I bought a rifle from you Krummarine and if it had been far less rifle than described or just dissatisfied I would have been treated as shoddy as you are treating Rusky? I used the word "if" to express my sentiment that if you would not take a minor loss to peserve your good name then you are not worth a damn as a man. If the rifle is as you described and not what Rusky describes then you are not out much and may recoup it when you sell the rifle again. As for post count it's just a number. I don't spend all my time here so I'm not ever going to have a post count in the thousands. I buy and sell a little bit but there a more specialized forums I spend most of my time on. Whatever I do sell I always follow up to ask if they are satisfied and if not I take it back without question.


Sorry boliep, I just realized I typed this in response to your post not Krummarine's

RIFLE FOR SALE- Has a little bluing wear as seen in picture, plus stock has couple small dings as you can see in photo below.

Bolt and chamber is pristine.....also shown in picture below, but overall the rifle is in VERY NICE CONDITION! $900.00 shiped.

Yet no one at the show bought it ?


Then why not do the same for RUSKY? (only 1 reason why)

Dosen't take any posts to see what's going on here.
Would you feel better if someone w/ 1000 posts said the same?
You have yet to answer why you won't do the right thing.
I am actually surprised to see this behavior from a fellow marine.
A marines integrity is worth alot more than a internet transaction.
Just my .02

(taking my dog and leaving)

Joe Krumm: DBA Krummarine

Absolutely nothing you say will save your reputation without an apology and a refund to the poor soul that overpaid for the Sako.

Flipping stuff on here has been a good business for you and you [bleep] it.

Has there been any posts that has stood up for you? All I see are posts that shame you.

edit to add: Of those claimed 77 positive feed backs, 5 are negative. Appears that lying is in your DNA.

Slg888,

Holy hell, back up when you take photos - those close-ups are killin' me!!

Looks like you are in the business of "flipping" firearms. Have you considered getting a license?

Did you ever ask to see the extra photos he said he would provide to interested parties?

Actually I didn't, based on the 2 he did post and the description. Good point though, I think he should post them NOW.

It appears he is in the gun business based on his history on several other sites and his gunbroker history. Not everyone is happy with him either

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewUserFeedback.aspx?User=520838

I'll take it.....assuming scope goes with it....what did I win!?

Just curious, I dont always get more photos either when available. times like this that reminds me to do so in the future.

free bump for Joe Krumm.

if that's his Real name ..
He's living up to it.

Could you please confirm that you checked the bore w/ a bright light?

Also an appraisal from gun show attendees would be appreciated.

Extra points for notary and self proclaimed collectors.

These also a prone to "flash shipping rust" especially to the floor plate area please take any and all precautions to prevent this.

If you don't mind,they also respond very well to reducing the polished bolt effect by steel wool treatment,I would expect that at no extra cost of course.

If these terms are acceptable,I will pay you 80% of your asking price.

No warranty or inspection period required.

Also,if there is a problem, I would appreciate complete lack of character in response,

Thanks!

Some times you just can't win.
http://forum.accurateshooter.com/index.php?topic=3808319.0

Why offer to take back the barreled action and not the rifle in this transaction. You make little sense.

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