Was wondering if any one tried them yet and what their impresion was. Also could someone explain the E1. I know the E stands for etched reticle which i understand, and i think the 1 stands for first focal plane, that i'm not sure i understand.

Guy

I looked thru one at Gander mountain. It was a really clear and bright scope. I liked the reticle and the new design of the FFII.

Some info here: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthread..._Burris_Ballistic_Plex_E1_re#Post5802983

I don't think they are First Focal Plane scopes, but someone correct me on that if I'm wrong.

amax
I looked at one in a store also and thought it was pretty nice too. prm thanks for the info, maybe steelhead will jump back in with some more info. slowrIder i don't know either, i thought i read somewhere they were but i don't remember. That's why i thought maybe someone who knew would chime in. Oh well maybe yet.

Guy

They are second plane. Have to have scope on max power for subtensions on reticle to work as intended.

I'd bet if a variable is 12x or less on top end, 9 out of 10 hunters will crank to max when taking a deliberate long range shot.

No doubt, an FFP has it's following. I am happy to see Burris offer such a low priced scope w/etched reticle. They are trying to stay a step or two ahead of what Leupold is doing.

OTOH, if hunting in the woods, Burris 3P#4 gets my nod...

Having to be on the highest setting wouldn't be that big of a deal, was just wondering. Think i'm going to try one in a 2x7x35. I think it would look good on my 260 mountian rifle. Thanks for the replies guys.

Guy

I got to field-test a 4-14x considerably on a prairie dog shoot last June. Not only does the reticle work well, but the optics are superb and the adjustments very repeatable.

Had a 2-7x 3P#4 and loved the glass and sharp reticle. The NEWEST FF scopes have a traditional power adj. as the old turned the entire eyepiece.

Word was Burris claimed the old style had benefits, but demand must have driven them to revert back to the current FF model.

And like you JB, adjustments were spot on.

Mule Deer
I know looking in a store isn't outside, but from what i think i saw and your thinking the optics were superb i think i'll pull the trigger on buying one and trying it tommorow. Really don't think i could go to wrong for the price and with Burris's reputation for being tough.

Guy

Cabelas has the 3-9x40 on sale for 149.99. Not exactly the one you mentioned, but seems like a decent price.

Let us know what you think about it. I'm pretty interested in one also.

fordisto
I didn't know they were still on sale. A 4200 for $150 is a hell of a deal. I already have 4 4200s 2 3x9x40s & 2 1.5x6x36s and i really like them, wish i would have bought them for $150 each. For some reason i've just got an itch to try the new Burris. Not that i've had trouble with anything else, just got the itch ya know.
DakotaDeer
Will probably take a few days but i'll come back on and let ya all know what i think.

Guy

Doesn the E1 only come with one reticle? I swear I saw one advertised witha standard duplex, but according to the Burris site it only shows the new dashed reticle.

I ordered the Fullfield E1 that is on sale from cabela's. Part of the description said it had the Ballistic Plex and another part said it had a PLEX. It arrived yesterday and it just has a standard plex reticle. I did not know they made these either. It was not what I was looking for.

Does it light up, even though it is standard duplex? How are the windage and elevation controls?

I ordered the Cabelas special on the E1 and will let you know what I think when it arrives. I am glad this model from Cabelas comes with a standard plex reticle, for I find the windage ballistic plex too busy.

I'm havein an 6.5 Cmoor built hopein it's done this wk.??? Anyways with the price of doner gun plus the barrel stock work and whatever, my dreams of a better scope slowly fade. I'll be huntin G-Hogs in summer here in Pa. and hopefully buck hunt with it in open areas. I've been lookin at the Burris Fullfield E1 4.5x14x42. It seems like a fair scope and I wanted higher power for the Hogs and the p a for same reason. Midway lists it at $349.00, if I go any higher then $400.00 I might go different brand. I wanted a 4.5x14 vxIII with varmint xhairs but the burris has the new christmas tree hairs that seem just as or nicer, windage deal. Just need alittle help....later

Bought a 2x7x35 ff11 E1 yesterday but don't have it mounted yet. May take awhile to get it mounted, compare, and shoot it as i have a herneated disk in my back and my ins. just ran out, and the pain is killing me. Need to get it straightened out before i can do much. When i mess with it some i'll let you know what i think.

Guy

Are the new Burris E1s pretty much the exact same size as the old ones? To me the 2x7 looks a little funny and I was wondering if the new one changed that a bit.

Ya only thing is they are 42mm. I like 40mm scopes, like my scopes as close to bore as can be, just somethin seems right about it. Huntin with those big 50mm looks funny to me...later

Mounted the new FFII EI today. First,this was not a scientific test just a deer hunter looking through some scopes to compare. So keep in mind this is only a sample of one, and only my opinion. I took out a 3x9x40 4200, a 1.5x6x36 4200, a 1.5x6x36 4200 with firefly ret., and a 6x42 monarch. All scopes were set on six power. As far as gathering lite or how late one could see to shoot the nod goes to the 3x9x40 4200 by a very slight margin. The rest (includeing the Burris) were so close i can't honestly say i could see a difference. It was cloudy and dreary today but in midday light the Burris looked as bright, sharp and clear as all the rest. The not so good. As light faded the reticle in the Burris which i think is a bit to thin seemed to fade away and be harder to see sooner than the rest. The balistic plex dots became useless quite early. I was useing yellow grass, willow brush, and pine trees as a background. The reticle in the 1.5x6x36 4200 with the firefly ret. could be seen to shoot far later than all the rest. When i didn't think i could see a deer with my naked eye i could still see to shoot with the firefly (not charged) Reticle, however it is a very heavy d-plex reticle. The Burris seems to be a good scope in the daytime and seems to gather lite pretty well,but i think the reticle is a weak point. When i say the reticle was going away it was probably after legal shooting time and just about to dark to see a deer with the naked eye. I wouldn't say the reticle is a deal breaker, just could be better. All in all i like the scope so far. When i get to shoot it i'll have a better opinion of the reticle. Until then thats my .02 worth.

Guy

Thanks for the write up--it is very helpful.

I'm thinking of using one for daytime varmint shooting--it sounds like it ought to work for that pretty well.

I got a 3-9x40 E1 with standard plex reticle and I find it stays as prominent as any other reticle. The glass is bright and the power ring is nice vs the old turning of the entire bell. The down side to this scope are the mushy click adjustments.

I though the E1 only came with one reticle, the Ballistic Plex E1?

Cabelas sells the regular plex.

Thx. Learn something new everyday.

I recieved a 4.5x14 yesterday and was impressed so far. The reticle could be a little bit larger (extend closer to the edges of FOV) but it should work great for long range shooting. The complaints about "mushy" adjustments are valid and clicks were barely audible, but on a bushnell boresighter it hold POI through all powers and AO settings so that was a plus. Also the adjustments, though mushy, were accurate. The phillipine sticker kind of put a bad taste in my mouth, but for the price it looks like a dandy scope. It is going on my 30-378 so I will report back as to recoil sensitivity. I may even take the brake off for a couple of shots to really test it....or maybe not. T.S.