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Posted By: killindeer zeiss terra scopes - 07/14/13
anyone purchase one yet? cant seem to find any reviews but the 2-7x33 is looking interesting. weird i see walmart sells them now as well
Have seen them and they are a decent scope at their price point. That said, they are made in Japan and not in Germany or the Czech Republic.
Posted By: 338rcm Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/14/13
You use single ply??? Walmart has a deal now!!!
Posted By: R_H_Clark Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/15/13
I don't think I want one if Wal-Mart sells them.
Posted By: Alex38 Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/18/13
Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
I don't think I want one if Wal-Mart sells them.


Agreed. I'm actually disappointed/surprised that Zeiss would move that far down market.
Posted By: jt402 Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/18/13
Academy had Conquests. Not much difference. Except for a few Leupolds, Rugers, and Remingtons, mostly import junk.
Posted By: R_H_Clark Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/18/13
Originally Posted by jt402
Academy had Conquests. Not much difference. Except for a few Leupolds, Rugers, and Remingtons, mostly import junk.


My experience at Wal-Mart is that they only sale things they can get a much lower price point. They even sometimes sell a quite similar model. It may have a very similar model number but be designed a little cheaper to sell at Wal-Mart. I noticed this years ago when they sold a very similar fishing reel but the model number was one digit different. This cheaper model was a Wal-Mart exclusive and not even listed on the manufacture's web site.

It just makes me wonder about the real price to produce these Zeiss scopes and the possibly inferior parts that would be needed to reach that price point.
Posted By: JGRaider Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/18/13
Originally Posted by R_H_Clark

It just makes me wonder about the real price to produce these Zeiss scopes and the possibly inferior parts that would be needed to reach that price point.


I asked much the same question, and got verification from the Zeiss guy who posted here, that the Terra is a complete redesign.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/18/13
JG,

Have you had a chance to compare the Terra with the Conquest or or other similar scopes? I'm waiting for this one to shake out so we'll know what it's really about. Can't go with hype, PR, ads, etc.

DF
Posted By: nuguy Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/18/13
I know what your saying about buying scopes at Walmart but I would think Zeiss would still make a quality product. People always said that Zeiss never advertised enough but they are still a top name. I've not seen a Terra scope yet but I'm thinking that maybe Zeiss realizes how much stuff is bought from Walmarts all over the country. Maybe this is their attempt at advertising their quality by putting it in stores that have never seen it. Ill bet if its Zeiss it's a good product. If its as good as a Conquest only time will tell.
Posted By: killindeer Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/18/13
just cant find a review anywhere on the scope. ive seen positive reviews on the binos tho
Posted By: JGRaider Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/18/13
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
JG,

Have you had a chance to compare the Terra with the Conquest or or other similar scopes? I'm waiting for this one to shake out so we'll know what it's really about. Can't go with hype, PR, ads, etc.

DF


I have not seen one yet. I'll be interested in your take as well. Regardless of all the hype I'd probably buy a VX2 instead.
Posted By: jimone Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/18/13
I should have a 2-7x32 Terra tomorrow to compare to my last run 2.5-8x32 Conquest. Thanks for going on vacation Doug, and don't forget to bring your guys some salmon or halibut or something.
Posted By: Micro_Groove Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/18/13
Midway has a $100 rebate going on now for select Zeiss scopes, including the Terra 3X9.
Posted By: jimone Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/18/13
Zeiss has a $20 rebate on Terra scopes. Larger amount on ones outside my pay grade.
Posted By: ldholton Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/18/13
Terra may be to zeiss what rifleman is to leupold , a way most anyones budget can afford one of the high end brands and these people don't have clue what optics quilty is , let alone believe tat bushnell , burris and many others make as good or better scopes at these lower price points
Posted By: jimone Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/19/13
Perhaps, but I find the reticle on my 2.5-8x32 Conquest visible about 5 minutes longer than my 3.5-10x40 VX-III Leupold.
Posted By: Micro_Groove Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/19/13
$299 from Midway is a great price to find out how it stacks up against a new VX-2.
Posted By: remington Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/19/13
If I was looking for a scope I would do the midway rebate just to test one out. I have looked at a 3-9 at a store and it looked fine but hard to tell anything inside the store.
Posted By: JGRaider Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/19/13
It's also impossible to tell how they'll hold up over time, until that time is up, know what I mean? I'll take a proven commodity...VX2, Elite 4200, etc.
Posted By: jimone Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/19/13
The rebate is Zeiss, not Midway. With the 10% deal while Doug is gone, the price advantage is with Cameraland and they have them in stock. I have not tried the new Leupolds or Bushnell. Redfield Revolution scopes are good at the price, but adjustments are a little mushy. I really disliked the only Burris FF II I saw, the distortion at the edges gave me vertigo, and it was sent back (by my brother) due to impact shift with power change.
Posted By: jimone Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/20/13
Got my 2-7x32 Terra today. First impression was good, cool clear plastic shipping box would be hard to shred. Put it on a 308 Ruger RSI and sighted in with 3 shots, adjustments worked perfectly, then shot a 1 hole 3 shot group with a rusty called flier. Will do a comparison to 2.5-8x32 Conquest, 2-7x32 Vortex Viper, older 2-7x33 VX-I, Columbia/ Kruger Optics 2-8x32, and whatever else comes to hand later.

Initial impression very good.
Posted By: gunchamp Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/20/13
Originally Posted by jimone
Got my 2-7x32 Terra today. First impression was good, cool clear plastic shipping box would be hard to shred. Put it on a 308 Ruger RSI and sighted in with 3 shots, adjustments worked perfectly, then shot a 1 hole 3 shot group with a rusty called flier. Will do a comparison to 2.5-8x32 Conquest, 2-7x32 Vortex Viper, older 2-7x33 VX-I, Columbia/ Kruger Optics 2-8x32, and whatever else comes to hand later.

Initial impression very good.
would love to hear the comparison
Posted By: R_H_Clark Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/21/13
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Originally Posted by jimone
Got my 2-7x32 Terra today. First impression was good, cool clear plastic shipping box would be hard to shred. Put it on a 308 Ruger RSI and sighted in with 3 shots, adjustments worked perfectly, then shot a 1 hole 3 shot group with a rusty called flier. Will do a comparison to 2.5-8x32 Conquest, 2-7x32 Vortex Viper, older 2-7x33 VX-I, Columbia/ Kruger Optics 2-8x32, and whatever else comes to hand later.

Initial impression very good.
would love to hear the comparison


yes please share your impressions. not much info on these scopes. Even though i don't like Wal-Mart anything, I love the range and weight..
Posted By: Les7603006 Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/21/13
Yep. My local shop just got in a 2-7 a few 3-9x42 one with the Z600 and maybe a couple higher mag ones. I was quite impressed with the 2-7 that I looked at. Was not impressed with the plastic box. To dam hard to get them out to have a look. I am needing a scope for a rig I just put together, might have to try the 3-9 with the Z600. Thinking that if I don't like that reticle for BG hunting that it would be great for my hb 22 mag.
Posted By: AMRA Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/21/13
Originally Posted by jimone
Got my 2-7x32 Terra today. First impression was good, cool clear plastic shipping box would be hard to shred. Put it on a 308 Ruger RSI and sighted in with 3 shots, adjustments worked perfectly, then shot a 1 hole 3 shot group with a rusty called flier. Will do a comparison to 2.5-8x32 Conquest, 2-7x32 Vortex Viper, older 2-7x33 VX-I, Columbia/ Kruger Optics 2-8x32, and whatever else comes to hand later.

Initial impression very good.


I am really looking forward to your review of this scope and comparing it to the other scopes!
Posted By: jimone Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/22/13
Sorry about the delay, I have them all out now, looking west toward sunset out an open door at trees 200 yds or so distant. The old VX-I is definitely outclassed by everything. To my eye the Viper, Conquest, and Terra are all good optically, discriminating the LBJ birds (Little Brown Jobs) out of the leaves quite well.

The Conquest has much less of a dark ring than either the Vortex Viper or the Terra. Not a deal breaker, but I like the Conquest better. It does seem I need to move the Terra back in the rings a little due to the slightly longer stock on the 308 Ruger Hawkeye RSI it is mounted on, compared to the 375 Ruger Hawkeye African that wears the Conquest. This may affect the "doughnut" effect somewhat.The Viper moved from the RSI to my AR (MSR). Sunset is starting to show its color so low light testing shall commence.

The duplex cross hairs on the Terra are identical looking to the Conquest, and I am going to grab another Hawkeye, a 30-06 with a 3.5-10x40 VX-III for comparison too. This Leupold duplex is much finer, on par with the Columbia/Kruger and the Vortex BDC reticules.

With 1/2 hr more legal hunting all are still fine looking into the east side of the undergrowth. Overcast conditions or one of JB's optics charts would make this part of the test better. The only conclusion so far is that the VX-I on the Sako Forester Deluxe 243 needs to go back to a backup roll.

15 minutes of shooting time is showing the Conquest contrast superior to the others. The Terra is next but the rest are holding their own.

Gonna post this and continue, almost a full moon rising so I may not get real low light for comparison.

Posted By: jimone Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/22/13
I guess I have to conclude that the Terra is not equal to the Conquest. The image appears farther forward, resulting in a bigger dark ring in your view, similar to the Vortex Viper. the reticule is the good bold one I was hoping for though. The Sako will likely get a Meopro or a VX-2 heavy duplex. Zeiss should have kept the old design and moved the manufacture if they had to.

I am not affiliated with any manufacturer, and am not a gun writer, except here for free. Feel free to send me toys and $ though.
Posted By: RatherBHuntin Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/22/13
Originally Posted by jimone
Perhaps, but I find the reticle on my 2.5-8x32 Conquest visible about 5 minutes longer than my 3.5-10x40 VX-III Leupold.


Me too.

Posted By: jimone Re: zeiss terra scopes - 07/24/13
Two other sets of eyes agree with my comparison, bump to save others from my experiment. Still beats the tar out of my ongoing Minox experience.
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