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Looking for some opinions on these. Thinking about putting one on my winchester extreme weather.

Anyone have any experience with one of these and the vx-3 3.5-10x40? Is the VX-6 that much better? also, how do they compare in size?
I've got both if you can live with a 30mm scope go with the VX 6 I love mine !
Vx6 has a slightly thicker duplex
I run the VX3 3.5 on almost all my hunting rifles and have never felt I needed more. Was out this morning, got to the blind an hour before the sun came up. I could see deer a few hundred yards in front of me and that's good enough for me
I currently hunt with both of those exact scopes. FWIW:
VX6 has better glass (superb glass BTW)
VX6 has the best duplex reticle made/perfect thickness, stays black
VX6 (if you're into CDS) has 20 MOA per turn, VX3 has 15
VX6 has the most user friendly eyebox of any scope I've ever used
especially at higher mags
VX3 is the perfect size, obviously smaller profile than VX6
VX3 has great glass, just not quite as good as VX6
VX3 power ring is easier to adjust than VX6 (a bit stiff)

All of this IMHO of course. Good luck.

Quite a few differences between the two, the VX-6 is twice the price of the VX-3. the VX-6 is a 30mm scope the VX-3 is a 1" scope. the VX-6 has the same eye relief at 2x as it does at 12x the VX-3 changes eye relief more than 3/4" from hi to low power.

If you look through both the VX-6 has better glass, comes down to your budget. if you can afford it the VX-6 is a better scope in every way (except weight, being a 30mm it weighs about 4oz more)
Originally Posted by JGRaider
I currently hunt with both of those exact scopes. FWIW:
VX6 has better glass (superb glass BTW)
VX6 has the best duplex reticle made/perfect thickness, stays black
VX6 (if you're into CDS) has 20 MOA per turn, VX3 has 15
VX6 has the most user friendly eyebox of any scope I've ever used
especially at higher mags
VX3 is the perfect size, obviously smaller profile than VX6
VX3 has great glass, just not quite as good as VX6
VX3 power ring is easier to adjust than VX6 (a bit stiff)

All of this IMHO of course. Good luck.


Spot on.

I have both and would agree 100% with what JG said.

DF
Originally Posted by JGRaider
I currently hunt with both of those exact scopes. FWIW:
VX6 has better glass (superb glass BTW)
VX6 has the best duplex reticle made/perfect thickness, stays black
VX6 (if you're into CDS) has 20 MOA per turn, VX3 has 15
VX6 has the most user friendly eyebox of any scope I've ever used
especially at higher mags
VX3 is the perfect size, obviously smaller profile than VX6
VX3 has great glass, just not quite as good as VX6
VX3 power ring is easier to adjust than VX6 (a bit stiff)

All of this IMHO of course. Good luck.



I just noticed on leupold's website they actually have the VX-6 listed at 12.5" in length while the VX-3 is 12.6".

I know it's a negligible difference but I expected the VX-6 to be quite a bit bigger than the VX-3.
Originally Posted by snowboardguy
Originally Posted by JGRaider
I currently hunt with both of those exact scopes. FWIW:
VX6 has better glass (superb glass BTW)
VX6 has the best duplex reticle made/perfect thickness, stays black
VX6 (if you're into CDS) has 20 MOA per turn, VX3 has 15
VX6 has the most user friendly eyebox of any scope I've ever used
especially at higher mags
VX3 is the perfect size, obviously smaller profile than VX6
VX3 has great glass, just not quite as good as VX6
VX3 power ring is easier to adjust than VX6 (a bit stiff)

All of this IMHO of course. Good luck.



I just noticed on leupold's website they actually have the VX-6 listed at 12.5" in length while the VX-3 is 12.6".

I know it's a negligible difference but I expected the VX-6 to be quite a bit bigger than the VX-3.


It is.

DF
If you got the $$$. Go with VX 6.
Buy a good used Schmidt Bender, I think they are superior to even the VX6, the downside is the weight. Most 30mm scopes are heavy, but if tree stand hunting who cares?
Originally Posted by Sakohunter264
Buy a good used Schmidt Bender, I think they are superior to even the VX6, the downside is the weight. Most 30mm scopes are heavy, but if tree stand hunting who cares?


This is not intended or directed at you Sako, but I used to buy and drink that koolaid myself, so much in fact, that I bought a S&B Summit with plex reticle. I've also had the luxury of guiding loads of hunters over the past 12 years, several of whom had some sort of S&B besides the summit. My take is they have superb build quality and glass....as good as it gets. The duplex reticle's suck, so much in fact that my then 50 yr old eyes "lost" the reticle at dark thirty, especially with a brushy background. I also did not find them to be the most user friendly scope around. I liked my VX3 much more than the summit in that area as well as in regards to the reticle. They real deal killer for me was having them side by side with Big Al's Leupold VX-II, at dusk-thirty, while our hunter was going to shoot a 185" muley buck. I could have just as easily killed that buck with the Leupy as the S&B.

S&B's are world class stuff for sure, but pricing is beyond ridiculous, they're relatively heavy, they can malfunction like anything else, and for everyday hunting I deem them no better than lots of other scopes at 1/2 the $$ or much less money. I find the VX3 and VX6 to be fantastic hunting scopes. I guess when they start breaking I will feel differently. That hasn't happened yet though. I still abide by the "to each his own" idea.
Just got off the phone with my dealer, he quoted me $790 for the VX-6.

Seems like a pretty good deal to me though I guess I should have gotten a price for the VX-3 while I had him on the phone....
Yeah, that'a a good VX-6 price and below MRSP. Your dealer could get into fair trade problems with Leupold if he advertised that price.

DF
For comparison, last month I picked up a VX3 3.5-10x40 for $437 to my front door from OpticsPlanet.com.
The VX-6 is worth the spread, IMO. And, I got'em both.

The VX-3 3.5-10x40 is my pick of the VX-3 litter, especially with a CDS. But, it's just not in the same class as the VX-6.

I'd go VX-3 with a LW, compact rifle, otherwise, I'd go VX-6.

For compact rifles, check out the new VX-2 series. They're pretty close to the VX-3, much improved over the old VX-II/Vari-X-II. With the VX-2, I'd go 3-9 on a LA rifles, 2-7 on a SA rifle for technical mounting reasons. And I'd get a CDS on either one. The CDS is the best elevation turret deal on the market, IMO.

DF
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
The VX-6 is worth the spread, IMO. And, I got'em both.

The VX-3 3.5-10x40 is my pick of the VX-3 litter, especially with a CDS. But, it's just not in the same class as the VX-6.

I'd go VX-3 with a LW, compact rifle, otherwise, I'd go VX-6.

For compact rifles, check out the new VX-2 series. They're pretty close to the VX-3, much improved over the old VX-II/Vari-X-II. With the VX-2, I'd go 3-9 on a LA rifles, 2-7 on a SA rifle for technical mounting reasons. And I'd get a CDS on either one. The CDS is the best elevation turret deal on the market, IMO.

DF


Considering your hands on experience do you think the VX-6 would be a good fit for a model 70 extreme weather?
Originally Posted by snowboardguy
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
The VX-6 is worth the spread, IMO. And, I got'em both.

The VX-3 3.5-10x40 is my pick of the VX-3 litter, especially with a CDS. But, it's just not in the same class as the VX-6.

I'd go VX-3 with a LW, compact rifle, otherwise, I'd go VX-6.

For compact rifles, check out the new VX-2 series. They're pretty close to the VX-3, much improved over the old VX-II/Vari-X-II. With the VX-2, I'd go 3-9 on a LA rifles, 2-7 on a SA rifle for technical mounting reasons. And I'd get a CDS on either one. The CDS is the best elevation turret deal on the market, IMO.

DF


Considering your hands on experience do you think the VX-6 would be a good fit for a model 70 extreme weather?

Yes, it would work well.

That gun is lighter than my 7RM MkV/Brux, probably closer to JG's 7RM Tikka.

With compact, LW rifles, I'm thinking slim, 6# rifles that to me would be better served with a VX-3 or even a VX-2.

I just mounted a VX-2 3-9x40 on a friends SS Extreme Weather M-70, using Leupold mounts. It looked good. That new M-70 is super slick. FN is doing a great job with those. I even liked the new trigger.

But, the gun is big enough to work with a VX-6, 2-12. IIRC that M-70 weighs around 7#'s.

VX-6's start getting heavy with the 3-18/adjustable parallax. The 2-12 isn't that bad and is pretty sleek for a 30 mm scope.

DF
Added to say I'd probably go with LW Talley one piece rings with the M-70/VX-6 combo, like I did with my MkV. They look good and do save weight.

DF

edited to add link for photo of the mentioned MkV/VX-6.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth..._How_many_here_use_a_7mm_Rem#Post9393797

Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
The VX-6 is worth the spread, IMO. And, I got'em both.

The VX-3 3.5-10x40 is my pick of the VX-3 litter, especially with a CDS. But, it's just not in the same class as the VX-6.

I'd go VX-3 with a LW, compact rifle, otherwise, I'd go VX-6.

The CDS is the best elevation turret deal on the market, IMO.

DF


A hearty amen from the back row!
May as well pimp your VX-6 2-12/Tikka 7RM and what can be accomplished with the right equipment and a half decent triggerman... cool

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/8868980/1
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by snowboardguy
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
The VX-6 is worth the spread, IMO. And, I got'em both.

The VX-3 3.5-10x40 is my pick of the VX-3 litter, especially with a CDS. But, it's just not in the same class as the VX-6.

I'd go VX-3 with a LW, compact rifle, otherwise, I'd go VX-6.

For compact rifles, check out the new VX-2 series. They're pretty close to the VX-3, much improved over the old VX-II/Vari-X-II. With the VX-2, I'd go 3-9 on a LA rifles, 2-7 on a SA rifle for technical mounting reasons. And I'd get a CDS on either one. The CDS is the best elevation turret deal on the market, IMO.

DF


Considering your hands on experience do you think the VX-6 would be a good fit for a model 70 extreme weather?

Yes, it would work well.

That gun is lighter than my 7RM MkV/Brux, probably closer to JG's 7RM Tikka.

With compact, LW rifles, I'm thinking slim, 6# rifles that to me would be better served with a VX-3 or even a VX-2.

I just mounted a VX-2 3-9x40 on a friends SS Extreme Weather M-70, using Leupold mounts. It looked good. That new M-70 is super slick. FN is doing a great job with those. I even liked the new trigger.

But, the gun is big enough to work with a VX-6, 2-12. IIRC that M-70 weighs around 7#'s.

VX-6's start getting heavy with the 3-18/adjustable parallax. The 2-12 isn't that bad and is pretty sleek for a 30 mm scope.

DF


I've actually already got a DNZ one piece 30mm mount that I plan on using because I already went through this once before but my 1st EW had issues and was returned to winchester.

I've been told I'm receiving a replacement and I wasn't entirely happy with the scope I had on the first one so I figured this is a good time to change things up.

I'm thinking this scope should be a much better fit than what I had before.
My friend is very pleased with his EW M-70.

What was the problem with your 1st one?

DF
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
My friend is very pleased with his EW M-70.

What was the problem with your 1st one?

DF


Major accuracy issues. Best I ever got out of it was about 2" and often times it was 5-6".

Winchester hasn't told me what was wrong with it specifically but I was informed that I would be receiving a new gun. I plan on requesting that they shoot it before they send it to me so I don't go through the same hassle again.
That's a bummer.

This one shot well. Hope your replacement does, too.

DF
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
That's a bummer.

This one shot well. Hope your replacement does, too.

DF


Thanks, I hope so too.

As much of a bummer as it was that it was a lemon I'm glad to see they are stepping up and taking care of it and look at it as an opportunity to equip it differently this time around.
Originally Posted by JGRaider
I currently hunt with both of those exact scopes. FWIW:
VX6 has better glass (superb glass BTW)
VX6 has the best duplex reticle made/perfect thickness, stays black
VX6 (if you're into CDS) has 20 MOA per turn, VX3 has 15
VX6 has the most user friendly eyebox of any scope I've ever used
especially at higher mags
VX3 is the perfect size, obviously smaller profile than VX6
VX3 has great glass, just not quite as good as VX6
VX3 power ring is easier to adjust than VX6 (a bit stiff)

All of this IMHO of course. Good luck.



Ditto on all of the above. I love both scopes and own both. However if my goal was a lightweight mountain rifle I would go with the VX-3.
Alright guys, sorry to bring this back to life but can anyone chime in with some details about the 4-12 VX-R?

I know some people don't see it as a big deal but one of the biggest things I dislike about the VX-3 scopes is the locking eyepiece.

Seeing how the VX-R offers a quick adjust eyepiece and is offered in a 4-12 I think it is also worth considering.

Am I wrong?
snowboardguy- I think your real question is - do I trust someone on the internet more than something I see with my own eyes. I been there and the answer is NO.

How can someone tell you that you are wrong? Trust yourself. Don't spend a bunch of money on something that has a feature you don't like.

Nothing wrong with a VX-r.
Originally Posted by snowboardguy
Alright guys, sorry to bring this back to life but can anyone chime in with some details about the 4-12 VX-R?

I know some people don't see it as a big deal but one of the biggest things I dislike about the VX-3 scopes is the locking eyepiece.

Seeing how the VX-R offers a quick adjust eyepiece and is offered in a 4-12 I think it is also worth considering.

Am I wrong?


The 4-12 has too much eye relief variation to make it useful. It's either too close on the bottom end or too far away on the top. If you tend to only use it high or low, then you can mount it up that way.

Why don't you like the locking ring anyway?
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