Went out about 10 to make sure horses hadn't spurng the hog trap. Well they were all milling around the trap and I could hear hogs a-gruntin'. Horses spotted me in the moonlight and came to investigate. Bunch of hogs came out. And I hosed em all Guadacanal style. Got these on ice.
I got to get a new gate on the pasture to keep them pesky horses out. They wouldn't let the pigs near the trap! And I fear it was them who sprung it after I reset it last night! Oh well! I'll keep it wired open this week and let them porkers get used to it. The evening firefight didn't appear to affect the status quo. The still came in and did a fair amount of root in'. Try again next weekend. And I'll hang a new gate!
I don't know what ya'll experience has been. However this has been mine. I will set up a feeder and let if feed for a couple months undisturbed before I hunt it. I'm of the opinion that the hogs get it in their piggy little brains "this is where the groceries are". Once it becomes ingrained in them, then they will come back time and time again. I've been killing hogs off the same spots for nigh on to 10 years now. However it its about a month between. Seems to work the same on traps. We also do a good bit of snaring, catching them as they come through holes in or under the fence, usually on a direct route to a feeder location.
That's kinda my philosophy too GW! They have been coming here for the past 8 years. They are a bit nomadic. They seem to pass thru here in a circuit. Hitting all their favorite spots. I sometimes find myself saying, "about time for the hogs to show up"... I just don't really make a serious effort to hunt, trap or feed them. They make themselves known. I know they will always be back. Kinda like the return of the buffalo, but on a smaller scale! LOL!
My family had a place in east Texas, near Cut n Shoot. We had a mile of frontage on Peach Creek. Had it between 61 and 2007. Hogs would range up and down the creek bottom much as you said, almost like they were on a circuit. They'd not be in evidence for a while then show up for a couple days. Where I'm at now, easy pickin's such as corn feeders is few and far between.
I use to do the same thing using thrower type feeders ,,I'd hang them on top of a 12' 4x4 planted about two feet deep. Problem is we have bears here in NW Florida -big bears- I'd guess a couple that have came through would top 500 lbs. They love to tear stuff up and they're not happy just knocking over a feeder -they insist on looking inside the motor/timer/battery compartment by prying each and every piece open. So -I started using 50 gallon plastic pickle barrels -drill several 1/2" holes in them and mount them down -the hogs roll them around and corn is dispersed ,it keeps them there for a couple of hours sometimes. BUT we have had two summers of monsoon rains and the corn in the barrel gets wet -sticks together and mildews -bugs and skeeters love to get in there. Then the hogs won't eat it and I end up pouring it out . When it's not Monsooning the roll barrels work great -I put a bell on the barrel and sit in my truck and listen for the hogs to start smacking the barrel -easy to hear 200 yards away . They love to knock them up in the air -HARD- then I ease out of the truck and stalk the feed area.
My new plan is to use a tree instead of the 4x4 , a bear can't knock a tree over . I'm going to lift the barrel feeder with one of the game hoist do-dads then wrap sheet metal about chest high to curtail coons/squirrels then trapping wire with a couple of dozen 4xx strong treble hooks .If yogi puts his big paw on the tree deciding how to tear the feeder down he will have other things to think about until he gets loose from the treble hooks. Bears are protected here -they have caused many hundreds of dollars in torn up feeders ,shooting houses etc. so being nice is over.
Kaywoodie ,
Hogs here are nomadic also there can be plenty of feed for them -coming to the feeder regularly -and -gone then another band of hogs will show up and leave never to be seen again. That tells me that the more time I spend out there with a gun in hand the better -and that's a good thing.
I suppose these pigs figgered I was one of the horses. They are used to them. I wasn't 15-20 yards from em when I opened up. Kinda snook up on em and watched them in the moonlight a minute or two. No other light, but I was sure of my target and what was behind. Horses kinda stayed behind me which I suppose was good!
we do a variation of a pickle barrel, I call it a hog pipe.
Take and put an auger with an eyebolt head in the ground and attach a and a swivel, 1/4" aircraft cable and a pig pipe. Fill it with corn, protein and some hog wild or cherry kool-aid. They will worry that pipe till the corns gone. It's amazing the power those big boars have. I've had them fray a 3/8" cable and knock the end out of a six inch PVC cap. Find the pipe couple hundred yards away.
I tie a rope between two trees here in Fl. and just tie an overhand knot in the middle then tie the feeder barrel in the middle w/a rope length that won't let the hogs get it around a tree. Two swivels from a home store are needed to keep the rope/cable from wrapping up. Our lease is mostly commercial pine operation -and every other row of trees is removed.
The cheapest thing I have been able to come up with is using 5 gallon buckets that I find on construction sites --with a lid. I drill a hole through the bucket and run a rope through the plastic -the wire handle will not hold up to big hogs.
Drill some holes a little bigger than the size of a piece of corn on the bottom [side] edge of the bucket ,then tie the bucket to a tree limb something that will give so the hogs can't really get the bucket pinned down and peel the lid off. Taking the lids off is hard to do -I cut a tennis ball size hole in the top and screw a piece of wood or metal on to the lid --back the screws out pour bucket half full corn- run screws back in. I think about five of these would be good -pour 2 sacks of corn between them ,that way a bunch of hogs can get in on the action where as if you have the olive barrels like I do now - a big boar will run the other pigs away from 'his' corn.
These two lights have been destroyed by bears -one was full of water -laying busted on the ground after a bear attack on the feeder pole. I didn't bother to even pick it up I was so mad. It laid on the ground in the floods for several weeks -then I picked it up poured the water out of it -plugged the solar panel back into the light and click on came the light. Hogs will get use to these in short order -the biggest boars here 350+lbs will spend hours rolling the feed barrels in front of these lights. The light can be adjusted to stay on long enough to take a well aimed shot. Make sure and point the light away from the direction you will be shooting so that it isn't washing out your sight picture in the scope.If you know the direction you will be shooting from -place the light closer to you aimed towards the feed spot.
OK kaywoodie and others just babbling what we/I do here in the florida panhandle.
Some more stuff I employ in whackin-n-stakin' hoglets........
I have a "feeder light" made by Elusive Wildlife Technologies installed on this feeder. It has three LED's that come on at night plus a 12 volt battery and solar panel.
It is a dedicated unit that I've had on this location for about two years with no problems other than switching out a battery last year. Expensive, but well made.
I also use their "kill light feeder light". Truth be known, I'm much happier with these than the expensive light. They have three strong magnets on the back plus three hooks. you can pop em' on the base of a metal timer unit, inside a coon cage, or use bungees.
I have three that I put on the first night when I go up to my lease. Four c-cell batteries last the four or five nights I'm there. Can also be rigged with a solar panel and battery.
Something else I truly enjoy for night-time varminting as well as perforating hoglets...
Mike, I can count on two hands the number of boars like that I've killed in 15 years of hunting the hill country. They are few and far between. Like mature deer they are very aware of their surroundings. They are usually loners and mostly come out only at night. Plus from my experience, they don't show up every night and are hard to pattern.
These are the kind you don't want to come face to face with when you're on your knees in thick cedar at night with a flashlight in one hand and a pistol in the other.
Went out about 10 to make sure horses hadn't spurng the hog trap. Well they were all milling around the trap and I could hear hogs a-gruntin'. Horses spotted me in the moonlight and came to investigate. Bunch of hogs came out. And I hosed em all Guadacanal style. Got these on ice.
Nice Bob! Lots of good meat there! That little fellow on the right is the size my little Brother just loves to cook whole on a spit and are really tasty! Me, I prefer pork chops & breakfast sausage.
I've got a feeder here on the Ranch on the Double Mountain Fork of the Brazos that's been in the same spot for 22 years now. We've probably shot well over 200 Hogs at that very spot, as they just keep coming to it. I've seen as many as 40 hogs under it at one time. Anyhow, there is now a water hole under the feeder that's 3 feet deep and at least 12 feet in diameter from the hogs rooting for corn underneath the feeder. Destructive little bastids, and they are hell on our fences, too.
Long story short, When I first set up that feeder, I would put a couple of boxes of strawberry Jello powder mix in with 300 lbs of corn and sprinkled another box on the ground under the feeder. An old timer told me that trick, and I didn't really believe him, but those hogs found my feeder within 2 days and have been coming ever since. I've even found them sleeping under my feeder waiting for it to go off.
Anyhow, any sow 250 lbs or less, we process and it's damn good eating. On the big boars that we kill over 350 lbs, we drag them out on the edge of our cotton field and shoot Coyote's off of the carcass.
Looks like your Model 12 makes a dandy hog gun. Are you using OO Buck ? I prefer #1 buck myself.
I couldn't agree more that they are hard to pattern. They seem to have a sixth sense on when a hunter is in the area around here. I was after a big bruiser easily 300lbs. I walked in as scent clean as a hunter can be and sat motionless for hours before the time the boar was showing up on camera. About 2-3 hours after his -usual- time I would hear a snap deep in the woods he was zig zagging coming in so slow I just mentally said -whatever- I have no idea what is making the noise. I wouldn't hear a sound for 8-10 minutes then pop/a twig would break -then not a sound for several minutes ,then a few steps -then nothing .I wanted to turn my Texas Boars Light that direction and get this episode over with but sat dead still. An hour and a half had went by and now the sound of snapping pine brush was within 75 yards behind me. I heard a few steps then again stop -not a sound -talk about buck fever by now I knew it was him. Model seven 308 in hand ----and the wind turned around 180* of which it was suppose to blow that night -he tore the woods down getting out of there within seconds. I was burning mad --the wind here near the coast truly blows 360* and AGAIN saved a big hogs life ! Hogs are hunted pretty hard here by our lease members and are very smart -killing hogs isn't a big deal -trophy boars are another story all together. We have a few members with night vision binos/scopes and big boars still eat our corn at will.
Went out about 10 to make sure horses hadn't spurng the hog trap. Well they were all milling around the trap and I could hear hogs a-gruntin'. Horses spotted me in the moonlight and came to investigate. Bunch of hogs came out. And I hosed em all Guadacanal style. Got these on ice.
Nice Bob! Lots of good meat there! That little fellow on the right is the size my little Brother just loves to cook whole on a spit and are really tasty! Me, I prefer pork chops & breakfast sausage.
I've got a feeder here on the Ranch on the Double Mountain Fork of the Brazos that's been in the same spot for 22 years now. We've probably shot well over 200 Hogs at that very spot, as they just keep coming to it. I've seen as many as 40 hogs under it at one time. Anyhow, there is now a water hole under the feeder that's 3 feet deep and at least 12 feet in diameter from the hogs rooting for corn underneath the feeder. Destructive little bastids, and they are hell on our fences, too.
Long story short, When I first set up that feeder, I would put a couple of boxes of strawberry Jello powder mix in with 300 lbs of corn and sprinkled another box on the ground under the feeder. An old timer told me that trick, and I didn't really believe him, but those hogs found my feeder within 2 days and have been coming ever since. I've even found them sleeping under my feeder waiting for it to go off.
Anyhow, any sow 250 lbs or less, we process and it's damn good eating. On the big boars that we kill over 350 lbs, we drag them out on the edge of our cotton field and shoot Coyote's off of the carcass.
Looks like your Model 12 makes a dandy hog gun. Are you using OO Buck ? I prefer #1 buck myself.
Neal, I got a 1 gallon ziplock freezer bag full of 12 ga. buckshot in assorted sizes give to me! So it's whatever got grabbed out of the bag. I think I had a mix of #4's and 000! Whatever it was, it worked.
Check out the olive/pickle barrel I mentioned here or in revmike's thread ,put just enough holes in it to disperse a few kernals of corn when you roll it . In a dry area like Texas well not east or coastal texas -- I bet a big 55 gallon barrel would work out great. Hogs would have to roll it around the clock to get two sacks of corn out of it. Throw in a couple of packs of strawberry or grape jello mix and they might..
Well I've always considered myself more of an entrepreneur than a bootlegger. But I can work with that!
Been here on the place over 35 years. Most neighbors don't mess with us. Mostly they are either all hipster city folk moving to a "ranch". Or messkins buying up everything they can. Spoke with the little old neighbor lady ( original folk from here) last night when I went to the back to check on things. She was happy as a lark when I told her of the episode. She sId she heard me shooting and knew I got some pork! They did a number on her yard. I think this weekend some more pork is due on the pit! Mebbe I'll take Miss Mary a ham or something.
I'm not sure what part of this is my favorite - the old M12 or the overalls and expression of a 1930's bootlegger you have on your face. Awesome!
Paradiddle,
I strike an extremely handsome pose.
And yes there's generally a model 12 or a model 94 well within reach.
KW,
good stuff, but.....
be careful, next thing you know some slick hollywood type will be wanting to cast you next to Robert Duval or some pretty young starlet............... put ya' in the movies and make a big star outta ya'
Just walked back to check trap. Got 2 nice eating size shoats and a piglet. Mebbe hogtie piglet for son to stick in his pen. There were about 1/2 dozen other nice eater size hanging around. Corn and strawberry jello. Try to get pics in morning. Gotta go check on my maw.
Just walked back to check trap. Got 2 nice eating size shoats and a piglet. Mebbe hogtie piglet for son to stick in his pen. There were about 1/2 dozen other nice eater size hanging around. Corn and strawberry jello. Try to get pics in morning. Gotta go check on my maw.
I told ya that strawberry Jello mix works wonders on Pigs. It's like cocaine to hogs
When I went out to check last night least 1/2 dozen bros and sis's were camped out around wayward siblings. But I had strict instructions from war dept not to bring home dead pigs at midnight! No sense of humor!!!
Yeah Tom!!! These are the perfect size. Son is on his way with trailer. He's gonna pin em and feed em out a bit. To me these are the most delicious. And well fit into my killing catagory. "Small enough to pick up with one hand!"
I know there are lots of folks that don't care for them. And won't mess with them. And that's fine. But I don't have any issue with eating them.
Kaywoodie, we quit trapping pigs about a month ago, couldn't get anyone to to take them anymore, still shoot a few every week just for the hell of it and put them on my bait pile for coyotes, works great.rio7
Bob we killed a bunch of them while there last month, including a number of piglets(really yummy!) The rest were all about 70-80 pound 'eaters'. No complaints on any of them yet!
Mike, I'm sure you're familiar with this inspiring "goldie oldie".
Well it's kinda like that.
I take a bag of 15 bean soup mix. Blanch my beans, drain and add water, a couple cans of tomato sauce, a can of Rotel Tomatos and green chilis, some red and green bell pepper for color and taste, a couple chipotle peppers in adobo sauce, some poblano pepper, cumin pwder, chili powder, chopped garlic, chopped onion, fresh cilantro. add smoked venison sausage and most of a package of ham chunks. Put in the crock-pot on low about 9 PM. Around 7 AM next morning you turn off the heat and let them set for a couple hours. Accompany with a generous slab of butter slathered cornbread and you're ready to go. Usually about six hours or less after consuming two or three bowls, the spiders start coming out of the wood-work and start barking.
Mike, I'm sure you're familiar with this inspiring "goldie oldie".
Well it's kinda like that.
I take a bag of 15 bean soup mix. Blanch my beans, drain and add water, a couple cans of tomato sauce, a can of Rotel Tomatos and green chilis, some red and green bell pepper for color and taste, a couple chipotle peppers in adobo sauce, some poblano pepper, cumin pwder, chili powder, chopped garlic, chopped onion, fresh cilantro. add smoked venison sausage and most of a package of ham chunks. Put in the crock-pot on low about 9 PM. Around 7 AM next morning you turn off the heat and let them set for a couple hours. Accompany with a generous slab of butter slathered cornbread and you're ready to go. Usually about six hours or less after consuming two or three bowls, the spiders start coming out of the wood-work and start barking.
Best,
GWB
Oh yeah, I know that one!
That sounds pretty good, but I think you need more pepper. Ha!
That sounds pretty good, but I think you need more pepper. Ha!
I do, just didn't mention it in that recitation........
Perhaps you've heard the story about three convicts that escape from a p-farm work gang in the Louisiana bayou country. Black guy, white guy and a Messican guy. Well they come to a pretty good size river to cross. Unbeknownst to them there are three aligators sunning themselves on the opposite bank just waiting for a meal. Well the white guy sez, I ain't waitin on ya'll and jumps in and starts swimming. He makes it half way across when the first aligator takes him down. In the distance the other two can hear the hounds. Well the black guy sez, I'll take my chances they don't like dark meat and jumps in and begins to swim. He makes it about 3/4 of the way across whe the second aligator takes him under. That leaves only the Messican to cross. The hounds are getting closer so he jumps in and swims for his life. He makes it all the way across, climbs out and starts running. The two gators come back up on shore and on remarks to the third gator, "Harry, what gives, you ain't had a meal in a couple days". Harry sez. "I ate one of those pepper bellies a week ago and my azzz is still burning".....
Five more last night. I think this is just about all of the terror sounder of the neighborhood. Haven't seen the big boar. I imagine he's pretty trap wise!
Son and I have a mans work ahead of us this day. Knives are sharp and coolers are ready!
Perfect size to roast on a spit whole! That's my little brothers favorite way to cook those little fellows. Smoke em all night over Mesquite coals and they just melt in your mouth. They are finger licking good, too. Slow cook a big ole pot of Pinto beans all night and bake some homemade cornbread with lots of butter and it don't get much better.
We've got em all butchered and split up the middle. We made quick work of em! Grandkids did a little help too. I'll leave em on ice to drain about 3 or 4 days. Oh, man! The meat looks sooooooo good!!! May be a while before I reset the traps. Least until we need some fresh pork again!!!!
I have miss Mary, my old next door neighbor a nice fat gilt picked out and ready! She deserves at least one!! That have been dining in her back yard!!!
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