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Posted By: Tarkio Potential Record Black Bear - 10/10/14
Local guy shot a black bear shot a black bear earlier this week. Weighed in at 660 pounds. Sucker looks absolutely HUGE!

Pictures are here:

http://www.huntleyproject.net/2014/10/09/08/42/record-black-bear-shot-and-killed/
For crying out loud couldn't they at least contain themselves long enough to wipe the blood off it's mouth? Nobody wants to see that.
Maybe for Montana, but not THE record. Not even close.
Posted By: RWE Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 10/10/14
Originally Posted by Fireball2
For crying out loud couldn't they at least contain themselves long enough to wipe the blood off it's mouth? Nobody wants to see that.


nut up.
Posted By: Tarkio Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 10/10/14
Originally Posted by CrowRifle
Maybe for Montana, but not THE record. Not even close.


Yes, Montana.
doesn't have to be the record. still a big bar! wouldn't want to go round with him.
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this one has been craping on my shop porch. have apple tree next to the porch.
Originally Posted by Fireball2
For crying out loud couldn't they at least contain themselves long enough to wipe the blood off it's mouth? Nobody wants to see that.


While I don't like having to agree, I do agree, we should be a bit more careful out in public with pictures that show a bit of gore.

But this wasn't nearly as bad as it could be.

Heck even for pictures of stuff that I want to put on the wall at home, we try to clean em up, stuff the tongue or cut it off etc...

Sometimes it can sure help with the fence sitting folks

In Montana it probably wouldn't offend. But where fireball is, where tons of liberal greenies life in OR, it probably would offend. Of course as many greenies live there, it probably offends em even if clean
Posted By: Snyper Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 10/10/14
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While I don't like having to agree, I do agree, we should be a bit more careful out in public with pictures that show a bit of gore.

Quite a few here care nothing at all about how they appear to the general public, and I'm sure several will be along shortly who will prove that point
What I want to know is how they loaded it up whole, to get it to the scales.
Don't say nothing about skull measurements.
A good sized bear for sure, for Montana a huge bear ,Congrates.....
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Don't say nothing about skull measurements.


No worries.
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Don't say nothing about skull measurements.

But, but,......it's over 600pounds!!!

The fat bastard!
BTW, Scott-
Can you picture POW bears with 10 months to feed? wink


Hint there for others.
Posted By: battue Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 10/11/14
http://triblive.com/sports/outdoors...tian-shot-anywhere-believe#axzz3Fn2hzVfe

I'm sure somewhere there has been a Bear taken that would be at the top. It just never was scored.
Posted By: TheKid Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 10/11/14
Looks like he may have been head shot. If so, no record books for him. Big assed bear though
Posted By: Tarkio Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 10/11/14
Originally Posted by smokepole
What I want to know is how they loaded it up whole, to get it to the scales.


Pretty easy. Tractor with a loader and take it right over to the truck scales which are certified.

Bear was shot after he came out the cornfield of a large local farmer. They are not lacking for tractors on that place.
Originally Posted by Tarkio
... a large local farmer.


smile
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Tarkio
... a large local farmer.


smile


Yes, but was he a potential record farmer?
Originally Posted by Tarkio
Pretty easy. Tractor with a loader and take it right over to the truck scales which are certified.

http://www.huntleyproject.net/2014/10/09/22/40/additional-images-of-record-black-bear/
Posted By: Ready Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 10/11/14
That dog is not to happy about that bear...
Deerstalker, that's a funny one. I've never seen one that big hunting or scouting ... maybe I should just start changing your oil!

A Big Idey Ho bear for sure.
Originally Posted by smokepole
What I want to know is how they loaded it up whole, to get it to the scales.


Easy.....a winch and five miles of cable in the back of a truck.
Posted By: Calvin Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 10/11/14
Must have had an uberlanche.
Originally Posted by ironbender
BTW, Scott-
Can you picture POW bears with 10 months to feed? wink


Hint there for others.


^^^ This! ^^^ laugh

Not to say that the bear that started this thread isn't a dandy, especially for Montana.

But I would like to see what one of the north coastal blacks with a hide pushing 8' would weigh if he lived by corn fields all summer.





Posted By: mistem Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 10/11/14
Did anyone notice that the rifle used was.....a Tikka T3 grin
Corn feeds them up nice, but the northeast corner of Pa. grows some big fat old boars that have good head measurements from dumpsters, landfills and handouts........ 600 lbers. fairly common , 700 lbers not unheard of, and a few 800 lbers for good measure. There is one there that used to wander my old neighborhood close to 900 lbs. big long and as fat as could be. Any bear over 500 is truly awesome, anything bigger regardless of how he got that big is just more awesome!!!!!
Originally Posted by Fireball2
For crying out loud couldn't they at least contain themselves long enough to wipe the blood off it's mouth? Nobody wants to see that.


Yeah no kidding. Maybe they could put some coins on it's eyes and put a phoucing dress on it for cripes sake. Nobody wants to see blood on a dead animal.
Posted By: ingwe Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 10/12/14
Be nice to him BGG. He's from Oregon and can't help himself.
I can see the point if it's guts are all blown out and dragging behind it or something. But some blood on the muzzle? Really? Give me a phouking break.
Posted By: ingwe Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 10/12/14
As I said....Oregon......
It weren't me that minds the blood. Make plenty of bloody corpses myself.
Originally Posted by smokepole
What I want to know is how they loaded it up whole, to get it to the scales.


No kidding, the bear hunting in MT must be a lot easier than the places I hunt bears. We can't get 'em out without caping and boning them first! How the heck do you get a truck to a bear?
Did you miss the part about it being in a corn field?
Posted By: Tarkio Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 10/12/14
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Tarkio
... a large local farmer.


smile


Yes, but was he a potential record farmer?


Actually, he is pretty close. Largest taxpayer here in our district.
Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Did you miss the part about it being in a corn field?


Yes, I did. Was I supposed to read that attached article or just look at the bear photo with blood all over it?

I need to hunt cornfields again I guess!
Tarkio, is there any chance that you could try to follow up on this over time and post the length of the hide and the skull score measurements? I'm curious as to how these heavy weight bears score. Call it a public service on your part!

There is a disconnect between those who weigh bears and those who measure skulls and squared hides. We have no way of knowing how a 600 lb. bear compares to a 7 footer with a 21 inch skull. A big bear can add easily 100 lbs. or much more of weight between spring and Fall.

It's kinda like: I got a whitetail with 4 inch long hooves. confused




Originally Posted by Talus_in_Arizona
Deerstalker, that's a funny one. I've never seen one that big hunting or scouting ... maybe I should just start changing your oil!

A Big Idey Ho bear for sure.

she is a fair sized bear for here. largest I have seen taken around here was 475 lbs. with a Thompson center 30-06 pistol.
if you look close at that picture you can see her cub just behind her head. as to the oil change, its my gun shop not auto shop.
Posted By: Rogue Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 10/12/14
Originally Posted by ingwe
As I said....Oregon......


The Portlandians get a little woozy.
Tell him they ran it with hounds and shot it out of a tree, it'll take a double-dose of Midol to cure the cramping and bloating.
Posted By: mistem Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 10/12/14
Originally Posted by GreatWaputi
Tell him they ran it with hounds and shot it out of a tree, it'll take a double-dose of Midol to cure the cramping and bloating.


Right on the spot....brother grin
Posted By: ingwe Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 10/12/14
Not to mention a carton of douche and wet wipes to get the sand out of the manginas...
Posted By: Tarkio Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 10/12/14
Originally Posted by Okanagan
Tarkio, is there any chance that you could try to follow up on this over time and post the length of the hide and the skull score measurements? I'm curious as to how these heavy weight bears score. Call it a public service on your part!

There is a disconnect between those who weigh bears and those who measure skulls and squared hides. We have no way of knowing how a 600 lb. bear compares to a 7 footer with a 21 inch skull. A big bear can add easily 100 lbs. or much more of weight between spring and Fall.

It's kinda like: I got a whitetail with 4 inch long hooves. confused






I will try to follow up on what the skull measures.
Thank you! Hope they measure the skull.


Originally Posted by deerstalker
doesn't have to be the record. still a big bar! wouldn't want to go round with him.
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this one has been craping on my shop porch. have apple tree next to the porch.


WOW!! shocked
this boar came in last night and ran of the sow and cub. this is a #8 bear. his scat pile is as big as my foot a size 8
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Dang, I'd like to see him next May! Got skunked in your neck of the woods this year.
saw him this morning standing next to a old log cabin down the road. his back was even with the 4th log. I measured it and it was 40 inches. magnificent bear. kind of red. when I first saw him I thought he was a griz.
the dogs woke us about 4 times last night and there was scat outside the garden gate.
Originally Posted by Okanagan
Originally Posted by ironbender
BTW, Scott-
Can you picture POW bears with 10 months to feed? wink


Hint there for others.


^^^ This! ^^^ laugh

Not to say that the bear that started this thread isn't a dandy, especially for Montana.

But I would like to see what one of the north coastal blacks with a hide pushing 8' would weigh if he lived by corn fields all summer.



Chances are pretty good that he probably wouldn't be a "north coastal black". lol
Originally Posted by deerstalker
saw him this morning standing next to a old log cabin down the road. his back was even with the 4th log. I measured it and it was 40 inches. magnificent bear. kind of red. when I first saw him I thought he was a griz.
the dogs woke us about 4 times last night and there was scat outside the garden gate.


That bear is incredible. Can't believe how fat he is.
My supervisor at work lives about 5 miles from where it was shot.
Posted By: Tarkio Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 12/19/14
He measured 21 9/16".

Posted By: Tarkio Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 12/19/14
http://www.huntleyproject.net/2014/12/15/11/46/black-bear-skull-officially-state-record/

Here's a story with another picture.
We Montanans are not skeered of a little blood. smile
That bear is a toad.
Tarkio, do you know if that bear was shot in the Pryor Mtns?
I used to hunt bear in the Pryors, never saw anything close to that size.
WOW! Huge bear, especially for any bear away from the coast. Thanks for posting the follow-up!



Posted By: Tarkio Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 12/20/14
Originally Posted by irfubar
We Montanans are not skeered of a little blood. smile
That bear is a toad.
Tarkio, do you know if that bear was shot in the Pryor Mtns?
I used to hunt bear in the Pryors, never saw anything close to that size.


This wasn't taken in the Pryors. This bear was shot in the valley out between Huntley and Worden. The bear came out of the corn that they were cutting.

We can see the Pryors from here. I suppose they would be about 50-60 miles as the crow flies.
Posted By: Royce Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 12/20/14
It's obvious to any experienced hunter that is not a true black bear but a bear/Squatch cross-
Originally Posted by Tarkio
Local guy shot a black bear shot a black bear earlier this week. Weighed in at 660 pounds. Sucker looks absolutely HUGE!

Pictures are here:

http://www.huntleyproject.net/2014/10/09/08/42/record-black-bear-shot-and-killed/



Looks like he was beer fed in somebody's backyard.
Gary Alt, then the bear biologist in Pa., told me of a bear that they trapped in the spring, that weighed almost 900lbs....coming out of hibernation.... Which puts it over 1k going into hibernation.

He also said his skull was probably a world record.

He also said he doubted anyone would kill it due to where it lived and how smart it probably was.

To my knowledge, it was never taken.

Bear lived in the bowels of a huge swamp in Pike county Pa.

Fattened up on blueberries....

Tony

The largest black bears in the world reside in Pennsylvania's Pocono Mountains and their foothills....
Originally Posted by Tarkio
Originally Posted by irfubar
We Montanans are not skeered of a little blood. smile
That bear is a toad.
Tarkio, do you know if that bear was shot in the Pryor Mtns?
I used to hunt bear in the Pryors, never saw anything close to that size.


This wasn't taken in the Pryors. This bear was shot in the valley out between Huntley and Worden. The bear came out of the corn that they were cutting.

We can see the Pryors from here. I suppose they would be about 50-60 miles as the crow flies.



Amazing,
I used to live in Huntley, and thats the last place I would have thought to hunt bear. In all the years I lived there never saw a bear in the valley.

It's mostly ag fields and small ranches with the Yellowstone flowing through it.

I guess the bear could have spent his days in the thickets next to the Yellowstone river and marauded the ag fields at night?

That old boy had a good thing going, until he was found out.

It spent its days and nights in corn, until it was being cut.
guy next door to me has 3 mounted over 500lbs. i helped load one that had been gutted . the guy that killed it took the bear and the gut pile and had it weighed . the next day it weighed 702lbs. you know that bear had to loose another 75-100lbs in blood and water..
Originally Posted by Tarkio
He measured 21 9/16".



Damn nice bear!

All fat-bear jokes aside! smile
Posted By: 4ager Re: Potential Record Black Bear - 12/25/14
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Tarkio
He measured 21 9/16".



Damn nice bear!

All fat-bear jokes aside! smile


Hell yeah it is! That's better than a 1/2" into the all-time records.
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