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Posted By: RememberBaker A mostly white moose - 05/26/16
Seen yesterday in Vermont. This should be interesting. Looks to be piebald rather than albino or maybe it's just a little muddy? A young bull I think?
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Posted By: bwinters Re: A mostly white moose - 05/26/16
Very cool! If albino, are albino's protected in Vermont?
Posted By: RememberBaker Re: A mostly white moose - 05/26/16
This was on last nights news, they (WCAX) also put it on their FaceBook page which generated lots of interesting comments.
http://www.wcax.com/story/32066809/rare-moose-sighting-in-rochester
Posted By: RememberBaker Re: A mostly white moose - 05/26/16
Originally Posted by bwinters
Very cool! If albino, are albino's protected in Vermont?

No they aren't.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: A mostly white moose - 05/26/16
I tried to find the difference between piebald and albino, if any. Info is scarce but the theory is that albinos are caused by a recessive gene that blocks the formation of pigment in the eyes and hair. Piebalds are just a rare color phase, like spotted cattle.
If anyone has some better data, please post it.
Posted By: ingwe Re: A mostly white moose - 05/26/16
I don't have data or concrete evidence, but this is the innanet and heresay is good enough right?

Just a quirk but piebald starts to show up the more domesticated something becomes. Look at farmed whitetails over a few generations....



Not that that moose is domestic...its just an aberration....
Posted By: RememberBaker Re: A mostly white moose - 05/26/16
Both genetic quirks, just not the same quirk. I've heard that piebald deer often have a severe over bite as well, but I don't really know.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: A mostly white moose - 05/26/16
Originally Posted by ingwe
I don't have data or concrete evidence, but this is the innanet and heresay is good enough right?

Just a quirk but piebald starts to show up the more domesticated something becomes. Look at farmed whitetails over a few generations....



Not that that moose is domestic...its just an aberration....
Inbreeding or line breeding will often bring out rare traits, usually bad ones. I have 2 sisters-in-law who raise German Shepherd show dogs. While they don't inbreed or line breed, it's almost impossible to get quality breeding stock that isn't. GS show dog lines have all kinds of serious genetic traits. They've both had to put down a lot of pups with problems.

Moose have a much smaller gene pool than, say, whitetails. I can see how a bad trait would have a good chance of being propagated.
Posted By: jwall Re: A mostly white moose - 05/26/16
That's K O O L...! !

Thnx


Jerry
Posted By: donsm70 Re: A mostly white moose - 05/26/16
The moose looks like piebald to me. The eyes do not look pink at all, plus the dark ears.

I used to have work at Bethlehem Steel in eastern Pa. There was a resident deer herd at the site, which did not allow hunting, so the deer were pretty much protected.

There were at least a dozen piebald deer, but none had the traits of an albino.

donsm70
Posted By: SKane Re: A mostly white moose - 05/26/16
That's pretty cool. Thanks for sharing.
Posted By: Timbermaster Re: A mostly white moose - 05/26/16
Originally Posted by jwall
That's K O O L...! !

Thnx


Jerry


My thoughts exactly! Awesome picture.
Posted By: MtnBoomer Re: A mostly white moose - 05/26/16
Originally Posted by ingwe
I don't have data or concrete evidence, but this is the innanet and heresay is good enough right?

Just a quirk but piebald starts to show up the more domesticated something becomes. Look at farmed whitetails over a few generations....



Not that that moose is domestic...its just an aberration....


Yep - that's right, I read it on an internet forum..... Saw some fallow deer today in someone's little urban pasture and one was fairly white - they looked pretty tame too figuring they musta been there awhile! Hard to argue with evidence like that...
Posted By: RememberBaker Re: A mostly white moose - 05/27/16
The point about genetics and inbreeding might be quite true. Vermont was moose-less for quite some time. Moose made their way back into the state from Canada and then expanded down thru the Green Mountains. It wouldn't surprise me if our moose population is decended from just a few individuals.
There have been other reports of white moose here before and an albino bull was killed a few years ago.
Posted By: SCGunNut Re: A mostly white moose - 05/29/16
Saw this one mounted at LL Cote in Errol N.H.

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Posted By: ingwe Re: A mostly white moose - 05/29/16
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by ingwe
I don't have data or concrete evidence, but this is the innanet and heresay is good enough right?

Just a quirk but piebald starts to show up the more domesticated something becomes. Look at farmed whitetails over a few generations....



Not that that moose is domestic...its just an aberration....


Yep - that's right, I read it on an internet forum..... Saw some fallow deer today in someone's little urban pasture and one was fairly white - they looked pretty tame too figuring they musta been there awhile! Hard to argue with evidence like that...



White is a normal color for fallow, along with spotted fawn, chocolate, and black....
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: A mostly white moose - 05/30/16
That will make a nice trophy for somebody.
Posted By: las Re: A mostly white moose - 05/30/16
I've personally seen 2 wild moose white from the knees down, and pictures of local moose partially or nearly completely white- probably not albinos. As well as pics on the internet of various other color combos, including albinos.
Posted By: las Re: A mostly white moose - 05/30/16
Originally Posted by SCGunNut
Saw this one mounted at LL Cote in Errol N.H.

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Poor bastid - target for everyone..... that is a gorgeous moose!
Posted By: las Re: A mostly white moose - 05/30/16
OK- I like pastels. Sue me.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: A mostly white moose - 05/31/16
Originally Posted by SCGunNut
Saw this one mounted at LL Cote in Errol N.H.

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If that thing didn't have antlers, it would be a dead ringer for my neighbor's ancient appaloosa.
Posted By: MtnBoomer Re: A mostly white moose - 06/01/16
I totally didn't fallow this thread.....

Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by ingwe
I don't have data or concrete evidence, but this is the innanet and heresay is good enough right?

Just a quirk but piebald starts to show up the more domesticated something becomes. Look at farmed whitetails over a few generations....



Not that that moose is domestic...its just an aberration....


Yep - that's right, I read it on an internet forum..... Saw some fallow deer today in someone's little urban pasture and one was fairly white - they looked pretty tame too figuring they musta been there awhile! Hard to argue with evidence like that...



White is a normal color for fallow, along with spotted fawn, chocolate, and black....
Posted By: ironbender Re: A mostly white moose - 06/02/16
Originally Posted by las
Originally Posted by SCGunNut
Saw this one mounted at LL Cote in Errol N.H.

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Poor bastid - target for everyone..... that is a gorgeous moose!


no it's not.

Freak of nature!
Posted By: ironbender Re: A mostly white moose - 06/02/16
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
If that thing didn't have antlers, it would be a dead ringer for my neighbor's ancient appaloosa.

OMG! An Appy?

You know why the Nez Perce rode Appys?
smile
Posted By: muleshoe Re: A mostly white moose - 06/02/16
Originally Posted by SCGunNut
Saw this one mounted at LL Cote in Errol N.H.

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I know nothing of moose. So how old would you reckon that moose is? Seems to have some age on it from the looks of the head gear.

Posted By: MtnBoomer Re: A mostly white moose - 06/02/16
Speaking of old moose - Happy Birthday Muleshoe! smile
Posted By: Swamplord Re: A mostly white moose - 06/03/16
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Posted By: RememberBaker Re: A mostly white moose - 06/03/16
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That middle picture looks weird somehow, it dosen't really look like a moose face?
Posted By: Swamplord Re: A mostly white moose - 06/03/16
it's a real moose, low pixel/quality pic of a moose in the distance that I zoomed in digitally and cropped for the collage, got some better HD pics I can post if ya want ?
Posted By: RememberBaker Re: A mostly white moose - 06/03/16
This one was killed in VT a few years ago by a teenage girl.
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