It aināt going away .. What would a Spending Bill be without Billions and Billions for Planned Murder and the NGO that are financed by Tax Money .. Oh and their Contributions back to Congress.. The Circle will not be Broken ..
A George W. Bush appointee who joined the court in 2006, Alito argues that the 1973 abortion rights ruling was an ill-conceived and deeply flawed decision that invented a right mentioned nowhere in the Constitution and unwisely sought to wrench the contentious issue away from the political branches of government.
A George W. Bush appointee who joined the court in 2006, Alito argues that the 1973 abortion rights ruling was an ill-conceived and deeply flawed decision that invented a right mentioned nowhere in the Constitution and unwisely sought to wrench the contentious issue away from the political branches of government.
He is correct. For or against, the legal reasoning was 100% made-up B.S.
So what will it do? Idaho already has a very strict abortion law. The state's heavily red and if this decision goes through, I would expect them to immediately outlaw abortion completely. But we have neighbors - OR, WA, and NV that are much more liberal. OR and WA in particular will become abortion havens for Idaho women. A map will show all 3 of those states mostly red except for pockets of deep blue that will overrule the rest of the states.
It was the worst ruling in the history of the court. RvW was a colossal mistake that destroyed the lives of so many innocent children the court will never live it down. It is long overdue to be overturned.
If the document is legit, whoever leaked it has profoundly betrayed a sacred trust.
The reasoning in the draft is finally the right answer: There is no constitutional right to abortion. To have abortion, or to not have abortion, the legislative and executive branches need to agree. It is not an issue for the judicial branch.
I guarantee this is all Democrat Party theater as a diversion tactic away from all of Biden's growing list of failures a few months before the mid terms.
I guarantee this is all Democrat Party theater as a diversion tactic away from all of Biden's growing list of failures a few months before the mid terms.
Gotta love the comment that overturning abortion is inhumane LOL, which is basically saying that the slaughter of innocent human beings is therefore humane.
There wonāt be any shortage of states that allow abortion in all or some form. I donāt think that thereāll be a reservation across this country that doesnāt have abortion clinics littered across it like KFCās in the ghetto.
They'll also use this as a rally cry to justify packing the Supreme Court.
Another issue in play is a fear of losing support among women. The Democrats have been playing a losing hand supporting school boards over mothers. Going into the election season, they need to make the Republicans out to be women haters again.
How can congress right now do this. See below if the Supreme Court supposedly going overturn roe vs wade then any law congress passes will/should be unconstitutional?
āCongress must pass legislation that codifies Roe v. Wade as the law of the land in this country NOW," Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., an Independent who caucuses with Democrats and who twice finished as a runner-up in a Democratic presidential primary, tweeted. "And if there arenāt 60 votes in the Senate to do it, and there are not, we must end the filibuster to pass it with 50 votes."
There wonāt be any shortage of states that allow abortion in all or some form. I donāt think that thereāll be a reservation across this country that doesnāt have abortion clinics littered across it like KFCās in the ghetto.
Alaska state constitution gives a women the right to an abortion. As others say itās a state issue not a federal issue.
There wonāt be any shortage of states that allow abortion in all or some form. I donāt think that thereāll be a reservation across this country that doesnāt have abortion clinics littered across it like KFCās in the ghetto.
Alaska state constitution gives a women the right to an abortion. As others say itās a state issue not a federal issue.
Was that ābody autonomyā extended to include those that chose NOT to be injected with a fake āvaccineā or was it only for fetal homocide?
There wonāt be any shortage of states that allow abortion in all or some form. I donāt think that thereāll be a reservation across this country that doesnāt have abortion clinics littered across it like KFCās in the ghetto.
Alaska state constitution gives a women the right to an abortion. As others say itās a state issue not a federal issue.
Was that ābody autonomyā extended to include those that chose NOT to be injected with a fake āvaccineā or was it only for fetal homocide?
Donāt know about all that. My point being a lot of states already have it in their state constitution allowing abortions. Only 26 states have very restrictive abortion laws. Iām not for or against abortion, Iām in the I donāt really give a chit category when it comes to abortion. Just stop using tax payer money to get an abortion. You want an abortion sell some aluminum and pay for it yourself.
Edit to add I do have an issue with late term abortion or after the baby is born and mom can decide they want to abort it ie Virginia abortion law and California has a bill fast tracking through their assembly. That one is even more egregious than Virginia and New York abortion laws.
It doesnāt matter what The Decision says, it only matters what the Media and The Democrats tell you it says.
100% of those that are about to lose their schit over this will not have read the decision nor do they have any intension of reading the decision. They will just listen to their masters and help spread Dis-Mis-Information about the decision they have not read. Think-Donāt Say Gay bill.
I will guarantee the talking heads like those on The View, will come out and say that The Supreme Court overturned R v W making abortions ILLEGAL. Book it.
This decision has āNothingā to do with abortion and everything to do with The Constitution.
R v W basically Amended the Constitution without properly and legally Amending the Constitution.
The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures. A proposed amendment becomes part of the Constitution as soon as it is ratified by three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States).
I guarantee this is all Democrat Party theater as a diversion tactic away from all of Biden's growing list of failures a few months before the mid terms.
Too bad the decision will fall on states and probably be statewide. Be nice if counties could decide to "micromanage".
I'm sure there are some Beaver Docs that kill babies, but there isn't an abortion clinic, or an office that publicly admits to it, within over 100 miles of here, in Pa. The closest place is in Maryland, 70 miles away.
It should be a state issue. Then, let March For Life and the Pussy Hat crowd square off at the state capital.
Whoever said this will now end in a few election cycles is dead wrong.
Pro-life advocates will never stop.
R v W happened when I was 4 years old, for 40+ years it seemed unlikely to impossible to fix it. They have fought. From tiny churches to the steps of power in DC. They have fought. My wife and daughters have marched in DC. (We ain't protesting types)
Any state that allows it, will see them. At least annually.
Nobody cares.
They show up, make a little noise and a respectful commotion. Put their trash in the garbage, and shed no blood/burn nothing down.
What a blight on our nation that decision was, based on utter nonsense. There's clearly no authorization in the Constitution to impose such a rule on the states. They should just declare that those members of the Supreme Court violated their oaths and manufactured false law, and that this constituted treason of the highest order.
R v W is bad law and bad science - religion has nothing to do with it.
The reason why they're calling for a law now in congress is because they know it was bad "law" and legislating from the bench when it was written so it you can't complain about legislation from the bench when it's over turned.
All this does is put it back where it should have been - states to work over/with.
This is a leaked opinion. Not a court ruling. These get passed around in the SC prior to a ruling. The final decision won't be for another couple of months.
I would like to think this is the first in a series of SC decisions that will lead back to constitutional government. The next will be a decision declaring all gun laws unconstitutional and repealing them. Then they will strike down all rules and regulations having the force of law, that were not passed by Congress. Then they will rule federal involvement in welfare unconstitutional as well as the Federal Reserve. Then I wake up and realize this is all a dream and there is an ulterior motive here and it was intentionally leaked for a reason. Nothing happens by chance in politics.
I guarantee this is all Democrat Party theater as a diversion tactic away from all of Biden's growing list of failures a few months before the mid terms.
And fire up the lunatic faction of their base for the midterms....that's what it's all about.
This is a leaked opinion. Not a court ruling. These get passed around in the SC prior to a ruling. The final decision won't be for another couple of months.
It was released as a political tool.
To get the goons fired up.
And distract from Biden's incompetence.
This! The first thing that came to mind, was primarys are getting under way. Throw out the leak and stir up the menions!
I guarantee this is all Democrat Party theater as a diversion tactic away from all of Biden's growing list of failures a few months before the mid terms.
And fire up the lunatic faction of their base for the midterms....that's what it's all about.
I clicked on this to post exactly that! Why not after the mid terms. I smell a rat...."
ETA ,I now expect "record" #'s of demonrat voters "turnout" this Nov.
ā With 21 states reportedly planning to ban abortion if Roe is in fact overturned, women across the country may find they have lost the right choose how or when they are pregnant.
āThis draft opinion saying that the Supreme Court is about to clear the way just for that, means that we're on the precipice of becoming a very different country,ā Maddow said. āAnd our daughters and granddaughters are living in a very different world.ā
As for what exactly that different world might be, Maddowās guest, Maryland congressman and House judiciary committee member Jamie Raskin, believes it might very well look like something from a popular Hulu series.
āThis would appear,ā he said, āto be an invitation to have Handmaidās Tale-type anti-feminist regulation and legislation all over the country.ā
Another strategic aspect of this is the timing, besides being a distraction for the mid terms. They waited until the pandemic was over because now they can shift from the government mandating what you have to inject into your body, back to the "my body my choice" argument.
I've heard it suggested that certain aspects of the R v W decision provided a bulwark against the possibility of universal forced vaccinations, and that this could be why the deep state may have green lighted the overturning of R v W, i.e., to clear the legal path for that.
I've heard it suggested that certain aspects of the R v W decision provided a bulwark against the possibility of universal forced vaccinations, and that this could be why the deep state may have green lighted the overturning of R v W, i.e., to clear the legal path for that.
Iāve always said you can win both Houses and the Presidency but The Derby Donkey named Mitch and Ms. Lindsay can stall longer than Imagine till the Marxist Win Again..
Iāve also said you can win both Houses and the Presidency and the Marxist will still be there waiting for another turn at Institutional Destruction of this Country..
Oh boy, well I am going to put a target on myself. And Iāll be offline for a while when you respond because I am busy this evening. .
Abortion is evil. I hate it. A woman should not get pregnant when she doesnāt want to. She can choose to have protected sex or no sex at all. Plenty of people (women included) are pigs. I bet you have seen some of those pigs post on this forum.
In regards to rape or incest, That should be between the woman and God. Who are the rest of us to inject ourselves into it? What if it was your wife or daughter or sister or niece? Think she should carry the spawn of her rapist? And then take care of it? You take care of it? Think hard about that.
I recall reading something from Freakonimics a number of years ago that said the reduction violent crime in the 1990s was due to the legalization of abortion in the 1970s. A lot of kids werenāt born to parents that shouldnāt have been parents.
If we outlaw abortion today, we should expect skyrocketing crime in about 15 years time. That is a really sh*tty point of view. Can you deny it? Some kids would turn out exceptional. How about most? It is truly evil.
I hate to say it, but mostly the people having abortions are our enemy. The kids arenāt, but they probably would be.
I've heard it suggested that certain aspects of the R v W decision provided a bulwark against the possibility of universal forced vaccinations, and that this could be why the deep state may have green lighted the overturning of R v W, i.e., to clear the legal path for that.
Yet over the past 2+ years that proved to NOT be the case. In fact those same type of militant pro-abortion liberals were the most likely ones to accost accost you for not wearing a mask or force you under threat of financial, personal, social, etc ruin. RvW did NOTHING to benefit body-autonomyā¦.I thought it would and told my wife in 2020 that I thought it would be ironic if RvW wound up benefiting conservatives AND the Constitution by reaffirming MY BODY MY CHOICE but nothingā¦ā¦ā¦crickets!
It most definitely did NOT serve as a bulwark against forced vaccinations or extreme government overreach or wide spread intentional HIPPA violations. RvW only served the left to the extent that the left wanted it to.
I've heard it suggested that certain aspects of the R v W decision provided a bulwark against the possibility of universal forced vaccinations, and that this could be why the deep state may have green lighted the overturning of R v W, i.e., to clear the legal path for that.
Yet over the past 2+ years that proved to NOT be the case. In fact those same type of militant pro-abortion liberals were the most likely ones to accost accost you for not wearing a mask or force you under threat of financial, personal, social, etc ruin. RvW did NOTHING to benefit body-autonomyā¦.I thought it would and told my wife in 2020 that I thought it would be ironic if RvW wound up benefiting conservatives AND the Constitution by reaffirming MY BODY MY CHOICE but nothingā¦ā¦ā¦crickets!
It most definitely did NOT serve as a bulwark against forced vaccinations or extreme government overreach or wide spread intentional HIPPA violations. RvW only served the left to the extent that the left wanted it to.
Helluva point there, Aces. Just proves the evil, depravity, and cunning of our enemy.
Slope77, You wonāt get flamed from me for stating truth. Itās sad but humans can sure find ways to ruin a good thing. I abhor abortion but I try to stay consistent in that I donāt believe the federal government has any say in the matter, at best itās a state issue, at worst itāll be something youāll answer for one day if you havenāt gotten right with the Lord for killing one of his children.
I completely agree. The older I get the less I value compliance with the laws of man vs the Laws of God.
Iām not going full tinfoil, but I suspect that eventually the country will split or have one heck of a civil war. Neither side will be 100% correct. Pick your poison. Lesser of two evils.
Take MI for example, we have a state law on the books that bans abortion. It's basically sitting idle, but still there, if roe v Wade is overturned state law kicks in. Ole stretch the gretch is beside herself.
I've heard it suggested that certain aspects of the R v W decision provided a bulwark against the possibility of universal forced vaccinations, and that this could be why the deep state may have green lighted the overturning of R v W, i.e., to clear the legal path for that.
Yet over the past 2+ years that proved to NOT be the case. In fact those same type of militant pro-abortion liberals were the most likely ones to accost accost you for not wearing a mask or force you under threat of financial, personal, social, etc ruin. RvW did NOTHING to benefit body-autonomyā¦.I thought it would and told my wife in 2020 that I thought it would be ironic if RvW wound up benefiting conservatives AND the Constitution by reaffirming MY BODY MY CHOICE but nothingā¦ā¦ā¦crickets!
It most definitely did NOT serve as a bulwark against forced vaccinations or extreme government overreach or wide spread intentional HIPPA violations. RvW only served the left to the extent that the left wanted it to.
Well, weāve proven the uketard-covtard connection. Would make sense if they are pro-abortion.
I've heard it suggested that certain aspects of the R v W decision provided a bulwark against the possibility of universal forced vaccinations, and that this could be why the deep state may have green lighted the overturning of R v W, i.e., to clear the legal path for that.
Yet over the past 2+ years that proved to NOT be the case. In fact those same type of militant pro-abortion liberals were the most likely ones to accost accost you for not wearing a mask or force you under threat of financial, personal, social, etc ruin. RvW did NOTHING to benefit body-autonomyā¦.I thought it would and told my wife in 2020 that I thought it would be ironic if RvW wound up benefiting conservatives AND the Constitution by reaffirming MY BODY MY CHOICE but nothingā¦ā¦ā¦crickets!
It most definitely did NOT serve as a bulwark against forced vaccinations or extreme government overreach or wide spread intentional HIPPA violations. RvW only served the left to the extent that the left wanted it to.
Well, weāve proven the uketard-covtard connection. Would make sense if they are pro-abortion.
You know it. Pro-abortion, pro-vax, masker, anti-free speech, politically correct. Mentally ill filth.
A George W. Bush appointee who joined the court in 2006, Alito argues that the 1973 abortion rights ruling was an ill-conceived and deeply flawed decision that invented a right mentioned nowhere in the Constitution and unwisely sought to wrench the contentious issue away from the political branches of government.
That sums it up. It's going to survive but the Supremes are going to give it to the States so Congress can't screw it up.
The Left is now saying this will destroy Democracy lol. I mean nothing destroys Democracy more than, let's say, letting the people vote on an issue, as opposed to shoving it down their throats. Can't make this schit up.
BGG, Theyāre sheep and sheep do what sheep doā¦.they follow the other sheep and go along without thinking for themselves. You get a much warmer reception just about anywhere if you support fetal murder than if you believe that our children are our most precious commodities and we oppose killing them. By supporting fetal murder you (not you personally š) virtue signal how caring and inclusive and progressive you are. Whereas if you believe our children are precious and should not be murdered you are displaying misogyny and supremacy and narrow mindedness, no doubt a product of white privilege.
Iāve just come to say yepā¦..and keep on doing and believing and behaving MY wayā¦.woof woof. š
I like to think if the SCJ in 1973 could see today, what abortion has morphed into a multi billion dollar business and these other states pushing the envelope on when a women can get an abortion. They probably rethink their decision..
They'll also use this as a rally cry to justify packing the Supreme Court.
Another issue in play is a fear of losing support among women. The Democrats have been playing a losing hand supporting school boards over mothers. Going into the election season, they need to make the Republicans out to be women haters again.
As much as I hate to say it, if RvW is overturned it will not be good for the republican party. At least not in the short term. This will be a HUGE rallying cry for the dems and I fear it will definitely have an impact on the mid terms and 2024 and it will not be in the favor of the right.!
Abortion will not be illegal except in some states. Wait for it, some of the states will provide airfare and hotel rooms.
I think a wonderful solution would be to offer these ladies a laparoscopic tubal ligation and two $100 bills for choosing that option in addition to the abortion that we have no power to prohibit.