Tyrone: That Police Officer was obviously NOT an "affirmative action hiree"! Sad that that region of the world is turning to dogschit after being ruled by liberal demonrats for the last 30 years. Used to be a wonderful and traditional place to live, educate oneself and work - no more. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
Dude calmly parked, put down his coffee, grabbed his rifle, sighted in with his red dot, used the cruiser to brace himself, then downed an active shooter at 183 yards!
Exactly how I felt when watching. That was how it is done!
My daughter in law is a software engineer at AXON, the body camera that cop was wearing. I met her group of software engineers, and they all carried knives....good knives, except the software supervisor who carries a cheap Kershaw.
I wonder if he was shooting FMJs. I'd sure prefer SPs.
Most LE agencies use SP ammo, with Hornady TAP or the Federal Fusion offering being the primary ones. FMJ's just don't offer the performance most LE agencies require. Military combat has totally different requirements.
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.
Ron
I never did understand all this buck fever crap. It's just another target.
And 200 yds ain't that far. Ask any High Power shooter. No optics allowed. Standing on your two hind legs.
The need to look for a back stop certainly adds challenge.
"It's just another target" is BS. There is a HUGE difference in shooting at paper and shooting at people. If you have never had a human being in your sights and had to pull the trigger, you cannot fathom the intensity of it.
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.
Ron
I never did understand all this buck fever crap. It's just another target.
And 200 yds ain't that far. Ask any High Power shooter. No optics allowed. Standing on your two hind legs.
The need to look for a back stop certainly adds challenge.
Do people shoot back at high power shooters shooting paper targets from a bench rest?
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.
Ron
I never did understand all this buck fever crap. It's just another target.
And 200 yds ain't that far. Ask any High Power shooter. No optics allowed. Standing on your two hind legs.
The need to look for a back stop certainly adds challenge.
Do people shoot back at high power shooters shooting paper targets from a bench rest?
No schit, I was going to tell the clown the exact same thing.
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.
Ron
I never did understand all this buck fever crap. It's just another target.
And 200 yds ain't that far. Ask any High Power shooter. No optics allowed. Standing on your two hind legs.
The need to look for a back stop certainly adds challenge.
Do people shoot back at high power shooters shooting paper targets from a bench rest?
Service rifle matches are shot in standing position, no support, no sling at 200yds (also sitting, slung in with 60 seconds to get 10 rds off, including a mandatory mag change). At 300, prone, 70 seconds for 10 rds, mag change included, sling used. They are not shot from a bench rest at all.
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.
Ron
I never did understand all this buck fever crap. It's just another target.
And 200 yds ain't that far. Ask any High Power shooter. No optics allowed. Standing on your two hind legs.
The need to look for a back stop certainly adds challenge.
Do people shoot back at high power shooters shooting paper targets from a bench rest?
Service rifle matches are shot in standing position, no support, no sling at 200yds (also sitting, slung in with 60 seconds to get 10 rds off, including a mandatory mag change). At 300, prone, 70 seconds for 10 rds, mag change included, sling used. They are not shot from a bench rest at all.
And 600 yards in the prone position, with a sling, and the rifle is not allowed to rest against the ground or compress your shooting jacket to the ground if the rifle is pressing against your shooting jacket - 20 shots in 20 minutes, single-loaded.
"It's just another target" is BS. There is a HUGE difference in shooting at paper and shooting at people. If you have never had a human being in your sights and had to pull the trigger, you cannot fathom the intensity of it.
Rocky, I know you have been there, and done that.
And I have never had to target a human. Hope I never do.
But still, I believe such reactions occur in gradients. Some people falter at sight of live game. Some can not shoot a family pet when the need arises. Some can not take aim at a human in a calm manner.
But I am sure quite a few can. We could both name a few who became well known.
That was still and excellent shot. The optic he was using is not what any of us here would even consider for a 200 yard shot at wild game, so give the guy his proper accolades.
When someone is shooting back at you trying to kill you will that affect your accuracy?
Originally Posted by OMCHamlin
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Ohio7x57
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.
Ron
I never did understand all this buck fever crap. It's just another target.
And 200 yds ain't that far. Ask any High Power shooter. No optics allowed. Standing on your two hind legs.
The need to look for a back stop certainly adds challenge.
Do people shoot back at high power shooters shooting paper targets from a bench rest?
Service rifle matches are shot in standing position, no support, no sling at 200yds (also sitting, slung in with 60 seconds to get 10 rds off, including a mandatory mag change). At 300, prone, 70 seconds for 10 rds, mag change included, sling used. They are not shot from a bench rest at all.
"It's just another target" is BS. There is a HUGE difference in shooting at paper and shooting at people. If you have never had a human being in your sights and had to pull the trigger, you cannot fathom the intensity of it.
Rocky, I know you have been there, and done that.
And I have never had to target a human. Hope I never do.
But still, I believe such reactions occur in gradients. Some people falter at sight of live game. Some can not shoot a family pet when the need arises. Some can not take aim at a human in a calm manner.
But I am sure quite a few can. We could both name a few who became well known.
Shooting a deer or squirrel is the same as shooting a human being? lol
I doubt the coffee had near the effect the adrenalin had on his system during that event. He handled it well and made a decent shot. All in a day's work? Not exactly.
Run 2 100 yards sprints, do 30 push ups then run over to your rifle pick it up and get off 5 shots at 200 yards in 15 seconds with people standing around your target. lol
Originally Posted by Triggernosis
Originally Posted by OMCHamlin
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Ohio7x57
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.
Ron
I never did understand all this buck fever crap. It's just another target.
And 200 yds ain't that far. Ask any High Power shooter. No optics allowed. Standing on your two hind legs.
The need to look for a back stop certainly adds challenge.
Do people shoot back at high power shooters shooting paper targets from a bench rest?
Service rifle matches are shot in standing position, no support, no sling at 200yds (also sitting, slung in with 60 seconds to get 10 rds off, including a mandatory mag change). At 300, prone, 70 seconds for 10 rds, mag change included, sling used. They are not shot from a bench rest at all.
And 600 yards in the prone position, with a sling, and the rifle is not allowed to rest against the ground or compress your shooting jacket to the ground if the rifle is pressing against your shooting jacket - 20 shots in 20 minutes, single-loaded.
I'm glad that cop is on our side. One shot at moderate range with an optic not designed for precision shooting- - - -game over. He could have been one of "Noo Yawk's Finest"- - - -do a 15 round mag dump with a Glock at 10 yards, miss the perp entirely, and take out a few innocent bystanders in the process!
I'm not an exceptional marksman. But I used to shoot an old Lee Enfield No4 MkII quite a bit. With its tangent sights from a rest, hitting a man size target at 200 yards was no big deal.
I don’t care how good a shot any of us are when hunting or target shooting. This cop, when it mattered, made a great shot and stopped the bad guy. That’s as good a reason as any to appreciate that the shot that mattered was made.
If he’d missed or hit an innocent we’d all be (rightfully) angered but in this case the cop made a great shot and neutralized the scumbag. I’d happily buy that guy dinner and drinks …
"It's just another target" is BS. There is a HUGE difference in shooting at paper and shooting at people. If you have never had a human being in your sights and had to pull the trigger, you cannot fathom the intensity of it.
Rocky, I know you have been there, and done that.
And I have never had to target a human. Hope I never do.
But still, I believe such reactions occur in gradients. Some people falter at sight of live game. Some can not shoot a family pet when the need arises. Some can not take aim at a human in a calm manner.
But I am sure quite a few can. We could both name a few who became well known.
Shooting a deer or squirrel is the same as shooting a human being? lol
I don’t care how good a shot any of us are when hunting or target shooting. This cop, when it mattered, made a great shot and stopped the bad guy. That’s as good a reason as any to appreciate that the shot that mattered was made.
If he’d missed or hit an innocent we’d all be (rightfully) angered but in this case the cop made a great shot and neutralized the scumbag. I’d happily buy that guy dinner and drinks …
As would I. A good guy did a great job in a professional manner.
I am just shocked that many on a hunting board would consider this extraordinary marksmanship.
In my opinion, every cop should train and be certified capable of such marksmanship before being issued a rifle.
If one is not capable of equivalent marksmanship in the field, one need not purchase a deer tag in this part of Idaho or Eastern Oregon.
Such performance should be recognized as the standard to be achieved, rather than lauded as extraordinary.
Agree , shooting a standing antelope in an alfalfa field is the same as shooting an active shooter in a populated urban environment shooting back at you
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
I don’t care how good a shot any of us are when hunting or target shooting. This cop, when it mattered, made a great shot and stopped the bad guy. That’s as good a reason as any to appreciate that the shot that mattered was made.
If he’d missed or hit an innocent we’d all be (rightfully) angered but in this case the cop made a great shot and neutralized the scumbag. I’d happily buy that guy dinner and drinks …
As would I. A good guy did a great job in a professional manner.
I am just shocked that many on a hunting board would consider this extraordinary marksmanship.
In my opinion, every cop should train and be certified capable of such marksmanship before being issued a rifle.
If one is not capable of equivalent marksmanship in the field, one need not purchase a deer tag in this part of Idaho or Eastern Oregon.
Such performance should be recognized as the standard to be achieved, rather than lauded as extraordinary.
I don’t care how good a shot any of us are when hunting or target shooting. This cop, when it mattered, made a great shot and stopped the bad guy. That’s as good a reason as any to appreciate that the shot that mattered was made.
If he’d missed or hit an innocent we’d all be (rightfully) angered but in this case the cop made a great shot and neutralized the scumbag. I’d happily buy that guy dinner and drinks …
As would I. A good guy did a great job in a professional manner.
I am just shocked that many on a hunting board would consider this extraordinary marksmanship.
Why don't you quote where any, much less "many", used the word "extraordinary marksmanship".
Most, if not all, agree a 200 yd shot on a KD range against a IPSC target is pretty simple.
Now add in bullets going both directions, innocents on the range, a red dot, resting on the side of the truck, moving target, and a single shot that shuts down the bad guy instantly.
Based on the recorded performance of LE shooting it does qualify as an extraordinary shot in the real world.
I don’t care how good a shot any of us are when hunting or target shooting. This cop, when it mattered, made a great shot and stopped the bad guy. That’s as good a reason as any to appreciate that the shot that mattered was made.
If he’d missed or hit an innocent we’d all be (rightfully) angered but in this case the cop made a great shot and neutralized the scumbag. I’d happily buy that guy dinner and drinks …
As would I. A good guy did a great job in a professional manner.
I am just shocked that many on a hunting board would consider this extraordinary marksmanship.
Why don't you quote where any, much less "many", used the word "extraordinary marksmanship".
Most, if not all, agree a 200 yd shot on a KD range against a IPSC target is pretty simple.
Now add in bullets going both directions, innocents on the range, a red dot, resting on the side of the truck, moving target, and a single shot that shuts down the bad guy instantly.
Based on the recorded performance of LE shooting it does qualify as an extraordinary shot in the real world.
And there, in your last sentence, you have completely made my point.
What level of marksmanship was required to graduate Marine boot camp a few years ago before they became woke?
That was still and excellent shot. The optic he was using is not what any of us here would even consider for a 200 yard shot at wild game, so give the guy his proper accolades.
Yep, he didn't need a small Hubble with Mil-quad, dots etc, just a red dot to make that shot.
Also factor in all the chit the officer will go through AFTER the shot. Every cop out there today knows if they use any force, especially lethal force, their lives are going to be shredded. There will be investigations, the media, social media bullchit, pressure on their families and most likely some sort of lawsuit to deal with that will ruin them financially. All that is a very real issue that can cloud some officers judgement and abilities at the worst possible time. Something the Fire tough guys don't have to think about.
A good shot but nothing overly difficult IMO. The assailant was likely armed with a pistol and seemed unaware of the cops presence. I didn’t get the impression that this cop was being shot at. A 180 yard shot with a makeshift rest at a target not shooting at you and not using cover isn’t a difficult shot. It was bad tactics by the bad guy more than great shooting or tactics by the good guy.
Run 2 100 yards sprints, do 30 push ups then run over to your rifle pick it up and get off 5 shots at 200 yards in 15 seconds with people standing around your target. lol
Originally Posted by Triggernosis
Originally Posted by OMCHamlin
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Ohio7x57
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.
Ron
I never did understand all this buck fever crap. It's just another target.
And 200 yds ain't that far. Ask any High Power shooter. No optics allowed. Standing on your two hind legs.
The need to look for a back stop certainly adds challenge.
Do people shoot back at high power shooters shooting paper targets from a bench rest?
Service rifle matches are shot in standing position, no support, no sling at 200yds (also sitting, slung in with 60 seconds to get 10 rds off, including a mandatory mag change). At 300, prone, 70 seconds for 10 rds, mag change included, sling used. They are not shot from a bench rest at all.
And 600 yards in the prone position, with a sling, and the rifle is not allowed to rest against the ground or compress your shooting jacket to the ground if the rifle is pressing against your shooting jacket - 20 shots in 20 minutes, single-loaded.
It's been a while, I DO miss it. They allow OPTICS now!
Why don't you quote where any, much less "many", used the word "extraordinary marksmanship".
Most, if not all, agree a 200 yd shot on a KD range against a IPSC target is pretty simple.
Now add in bullets going both directions, innocents on the range, a red dot, resting on the side of the truck, moving target, and a single shot that shuts down the bad guy instantly.
Based on the recorded performance of LE shooting it does qualify as an extraordinary shot in the real world.
And there, in your last sentence, you have completely made my point.
What level of marksmanship was required to graduate Marine boot camp a few years ago before they became woke?
I called it an "extraodinary shot" because the marksmanship required was just a small part of what you saw in the video.
That said to instantly incapacitate a person at 180 yards requires an extremely precise shot.
As you seem to think flat range marksmanship is all that would be involved in this shooting I don't know that there is much more to disscuss.
We are going to have to agree to disagree.
But I do agree with you that outcome was positive and the cop deserves a beer for his effort.
Also factor in all the chit the officer will go through AFTER the shot. Every cop out there today knows if they use any force, especially lethal force, their lives are going to be shredded. There will be investigations, the media, social media bullchit, pressure on their families and most likely some sort of lawsuit to deal with that will ruin them financially. All that is a very real issue that can cloud some officers judgement and abilities at the worst possible time. Something the Fire tough guys don't have to think about.
So you mean they will get treated like a mere civilian that used deadly force? How horrible
But don't you make your living by making schitt appear to be much tougher than it really is and selling "tools" at extravegant prices to overcome these imagined obstacles?
How is it any more difficult to hit a human sized target than to hit a whistle pig at the same distance?
As long as one is of the mind set to ignore the basic fact that it is a human.
Also factor in all the chit the officer will go through AFTER the shot. Every cop out there today knows if they use any force, especially lethal force, their lives are going to be shredded. There will be investigations, the media, social media bullchit, pressure on their families and most likely some sort of lawsuit to deal with that will ruin them financially. All that is a very real issue that can cloud some officers judgement and abilities at the worst possible time. Something the Fire tough guys don't have to think about.
So you mean they will get treated like a mere civilian that used deadly force? How horrible
He obviously wasn’t being shot at himself. So, other than the adrenaline present with shooting a person, did he do anything anyone couldn’t t have done with a 30-30? Meh…good shooting but pretty routine.
Government agents have qualified immunity. They NEVER get treated the same as civilians. Horrible, horrible idea.
And no - it's not a hard shot. It was a good shot but not particularly difficult in any way. The human head is 7" across on average. 1 MOA @200 yards is 2". 2 moa (very sloppy) @200 yards is 4". 4 MOA @200 yards is 8". Even if if it had been offhand, it would have still been a good shot but not that impressive.
He obviously wasn’t being shot at himself. So, other than the adrenaline present with shooting a person, did he do anything anyone couldn’t t have done with a 30-30? Meh…good shooting but pretty routine.
Please link some more "routine" 180 yd shots on active shooters for the class.
I didn’t read any details on it or know any of the particulars. With that said, someone said the perp was hit in the leg. Was he? I don’t know… but if he was, was that where the shooter intended to hit him? If I wanted to eliminate a threat the leg wouldn’t be my primary target I don’t think.
He obviously wasn’t being shot at himself. So, other than the adrenaline present with shooting a person, did he do anything anyone couldn’t t have done with a 30-30? Meh…good shooting but pretty routine.
Please link some more "routine" 180 yd shots on active shooters for the class.
Johnny. What are the marksmanship requirements for graduating Air Force basic training when you went?
How many hours of firearms training did you complete?
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
I don’t care how good a shot any of us are when hunting or target shooting. This cop, when it mattered, made a great shot and stopped the bad guy. That’s as good a reason as any to appreciate that the shot that mattered was made.
If he’d missed or hit an innocent we’d all be (rightfully) angered but in this case the cop made a great shot and neutralized the scumbag. I’d happily buy that guy dinner and drinks …
As would I. A good guy did a great job in a professional manner.
I am just shocked that many on a hunting board would consider this extraordinary marksmanship.
Why don't you quote where any, much less "many", used the word "extraordinary marksmanship".
Most, if not all, agree a 200 yd shot on a KD range against a IPSC target is pretty simple.
Now add in bullets going both directions, innocents on the range, a red dot, resting on the side of the truck, moving target, and a single shot that shuts down the bad guy instantly.
Based on the recorded performance of LE shooting it does qualify as an extraordinary shot in the real world.
He probably did shoot him in the leg if I had to guess. I read several articles about it and none stated where the LE hit the perp. The perp died from a self inflicted gunshot however. If that's the case, it was a crappy but effective shot.
"Investigators said Collins sustained two gunshot wounds; one consistent with an officer-fired shot, and one consistent with a self-inflicted shot."
The perp was shot center of the chest. according to the NY Post. Rio7
That is thought to be the self-inflicted wound that ended the episode.
^^
"Investigators said Collins sustained two gunshot wounds; one consistent with an officer-fired shot, and one consistent with a self-inflicted shot. The Pierce County Medical Examiner’s office ruled Collins’ death as a homicide from a rifle wound to the chest."
So you've had no formal combat training . I knew before I asked as had many friends go through AF basic. They played volleyball instead of forced ruck marches lol
now I understand
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by ribka
Johnny. What are the marksmanship requirements for graduating Air Force basic training when you went?
How many hours of firearms training did you complete?
Pretty extensive at the time I went through.
The M-16s had 22 LR conversions.
Each boot got one 50 round box of 22 Long Rifle.
10 rounds for training and a 40 round course of fire for certification.
That's not a joke but exactly what happened.
I got all Wizardry on shooting after my time in service.
So you've had no formal combat training . I knew before I asked as had many friends go through AF basic. They played volleyball instead of forced ruck marches lol
now I understand
I have had lots of formal training including cutting edge CQB. LOTS.
Note that not one of the chest pounders and "It wasn't a hard shot" claimers has responded with how many people they have shot in anger. I must assume that the grand total from all of them is therefore - zero.
So when discussing how this officer performed, they should probably STFU and go back to plinking at tin cans.
Note that not one of the chest pounders and "It wasn't a hard shot" claimers has responded with how many people they have shot in anger. I must assume that the grand total from all of them is therefore - zero.
So when discussing how this officer performed, they should probably STFU and go back to plinking at tin cans.
Note that not one of the chest pounders and "It wasn't a hard shot" claimers has responded with how many people they have shot in anger. I must assume that the grand total from all of them is therefore - zero.
So when discussing how this officer performed, they should probably STFU and go back to plinking at tin cans.
I haven’t judged the officer or shooting one way or the other, I’m just curious as to why you would stipulate "shot in anger" as part of your position on the matter?
Note that not one of the chest pounders and "It wasn't a hard shot" claimers has responded with how many people they have shot in anger. I must assume that the grand total from all of them is therefore - zero.
So when discussing how this officer performed, they should probably STFU and go back to plinking at tin cans.
Plenty of people both good and bad have been shooting each other “in anger” for as long as there have been weapons to shoot. It may be difficult for some people but it isn’t for all.
This vary video shows that. The “bad guy” had no problem pulling the trigger and the cop nonchalantly sat down his coffee uncased his rifle and shot the shooter with apparent ease and no mental gymnastics.
That was an outstanding shot No other way to look at it. One shot, leaning against his cruiser. Red dot sight... most agencies do not train at 180 yards, most don't have ranges that far. Dept i retired from used 55 Ballistic tip loads. Not sure what they use now but i think TAP.
Good mindset. The shot was easy, for a fella with the right mindset. For myself, and a lot of country boys around here, that is short range. Hell, my range at the house is three hundred, can shoot a thousand over the next ridge. With a decent AR and ammo, 180 is no trouble at all. Even with the mini Aimpoint type sight the officer was using. Nice to see a man who can do the deed when warranted with a minimum of fuss.
I used to make money shooting clay pigeons at 100 yards on the berm, with my carry Glock. 5 out of 5 was the offer, and it usually had someone getting out their wallet. Until word got around. I had a Cimmarron copy of the Colt SAA in .45 Colt that I could do it with also. The only folks who laugh about long shots with a handgun are folks that haven’t done it.
Cop made a good shot with a red dot. I once hit a hog running directly away from me at about 160 or so with a red dot on a 300 blackout ar. The dot pretty much covered the whole pig at the l9nger ranges. That was a ton of fun. I killed 3 out of one group.
I hit the first big sow and the pigs were running everywhere. I shot 9 rounds in about 10 seconds put 3 in the first and 2 rounds into each of the other 2 and must have missed one or two.
The 125g ballistic tips at 2250 worked but didn't really put them down with authority. I bought a 458 socom after that hunt but ditched it after tons of reliability issues. Next time I go to Texas I think I'll take my 350 legend ar and marlin outfitter 444.
John. Roger is a lot better than lots of folks out there. Person wise and shooting wise... FWIW you are barking up a wrong tree here IMHO though I know you could care less.
As to 180 yard shot this shouldn't even be news. It should be a norm. That its news and people are impressed says a lot.
Just checking in to see if the chest thumping was ongoing.
Yes and rising to new levels !
No one seems to question that this "story" cannot be found in any contemporary media.
You guys could get hired by MSNBC or CNN. If somebody says it, it must be true.
Still waiting for all your 1st person accounts of shoot outs with the bad guys, medals awarded, feature stories in the media and what have you. Killing a baby Elk does not qualify.
I did once stop a Jambony with my Bauer 25 trying to steal my CB radio. But he was about 14 and unarmed.
I used to make money shooting clay pigeons at 100 yards on the berm, with my carry Glock. 5 out of 5 was the offer, and it usually had someone getting out their wallet. Until word got around. I had a Cimmarron copy of the Colt SAA in .45 Colt that I could do it with also. The only folks who laugh about long shots with a handgun are folks that haven’t done it.
How many times have you been shot shooting clay pigeons?
Just checking in to see if the chest thumping was ongoing.
Yes and rising to new levels !
No one seems to question that this "story" cannot be found in any contemporary media.
You guys could get hired by MSNBC or CNN. If somebody says it, it must be true.
Still waiting for all your 1st person accounts of shoot outs with the bad guys, medals awarded, feature stories in the media and what have you. Killing a baby Elk does not qualify.
I did once stop a Jambony with my Bauer 25 trying to steal my CB radio. But he was about 14 and unarmed.
Words from a smart guy.
Actually, there are plenty media accounts of the incident, if you're smart enough to use a computer. Much more comprehensive than the OP. That's how we know the officer was taking fire and the bad guy died. It also shows the suspects weapons and describes the scenario.
I could have posted it, but I don't like lazy m'fckers.
Just checking in to see if the chest thumping was ongoing.
Yes and rising to new levels !
No one seems to question that this "story" cannot be found in any contemporary media.
You guys could get hired by MSNBC or CNN. If somebody says it, it must be true.
Still waiting for all your 1st person accounts of shoot outs with the bad guys, medals awarded, feature stories in the media and what have you. Killing a baby Elk does not qualify.
I did once stop a Jambony with my Bauer 25 trying to steal my CB radio. But he was about 14 and unarmed.
Words from a smart guy.
Actually, there are plenty media accounts of the incident, if you're smart enough to use a computer. Much more comprehensive than the OP. That's how we know the officer was taking fire and the bad guy died. It also shows the suspects weapons and describes the scenario.
I could have posted it, but I don't like lazy m'fckers.
Wait. You mean like the other thread right here that has “the rest of the story”?
The man was cool, clear, collected and did what he needed to do, he undoubtedly understood the need to train and did so. He made a commitment and made it count.
A lot more than most of "expert" keyboard commandos on here could do, heck most don't have the balls to admit it.. and beat their chests exclaiming how easy it would be to shoot another human being, and what a easy shot it would be while the suck down their PBRs and stuff their faces with popcorn sitting in their lazy boys......whatta pitiful lot of losers.