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https://notthebee.com/article/this-...owned-the-perp-with-a-single-shot-legend
Thats the record to beat....ought to be plenty of targets left.
Nice shot!
One less mouth to feed
Relax, I got this...
Attaboy!

When talent, training and competence come together.
You can take down any perp with a Bee Bee
Tyrone: That Police Officer was obviously NOT an "affirmative action hiree"!
Sad that that region of the world is turning to dogschit after being ruled by liberal demonrats for the last 30 years.
Used to be a wonderful and traditional place to live, educate oneself and work - no more.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
And he did it with a Poodle Shooter! Imagine what he could have done with a full grown rifle!
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Dude calmly parked, put down his coffee, grabbed his rifle, sighted in with his red dot, used the cruiser to brace himself, then downed an active shooter at 183 yards!

Exactly how I felt when watching. That was how it is done!
Gives reach out and touch someone a different meaning. Nice shot
the source:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1575300135377989633



My daughter in law is a software engineer at AXON, the body camera that cop was wearing.
I met her group of software engineers, and they all carried knives....good knives, except the software supervisor who carries a cheap Kershaw.
As it should be. Negotiation successful.
I wonder if he was shooting FMJs. I'd sure prefer SPs.
180, is not that far with a rifle.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
I wonder if he was shooting FMJs. I'd sure prefer SPs.

Most LE agencies use SP ammo, with Hornady TAP or the Federal Fusion offering being the primary ones. FMJ's just don't offer the performance most LE agencies require. Military combat has totally different requirements.

Ed
Originally Posted by stxhunter
180, is not that far with a rifle.

It is for a cop who's been sitting on his butt most of the time and has to use an improvised rest such as the side of a car... laugh

You gotta remember, most cops these days are first, not gun guys, second, are not riflemen.

Ed
Originally Posted by stxhunter
180, is not that far with a rifle.

It is in an active shooter situation in an urban area
We are issuing Federal 223,63gr HPBT. It has worked well for us.
Dirty Harry could make that shot with a Smith Model 29- - - - -one handed!
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.

Ron
Originally Posted by cs2blue
We are issuing Federal 223,63gr HPBT. It has worked well for us.


Winchester Ranger .223 64gr. PowerPoint - Law Enforcement Only
Winchester

better shooting through wind shields
Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
Originally Posted by stxhunter
180, is not that far with a rifle.

It is for a cop who's been sitting on his butt most of the time and has to use an improvised rest such as the side of a car... laugh

You gotta remember, most cops these days are first, not gun guys, second, are not riflemen.

Ed

I bet this guy knew his rifle pretty well.
Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
Dirty Harry could make that shot with a Smith Model 29- - - - -one handed!
Agreed, This cop got nothing on Harry.
I hope TPD tried sending a social worker or counselor first.
Originally Posted by Ohio7x57
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.

Ron
I never did understand all this buck fever crap. It's just another target.

And 200 yds ain't that far. Ask any High Power shooter. No optics allowed. Standing on your two hind legs.

The need to look for a back stop certainly adds challenge.
Like a BOSS!
"It's just another target" is BS. There is a HUGE difference in shooting at paper and shooting at people. If you have never had a human being in your sights and had to pull the trigger, you cannot fathom the intensity of it.
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Ohio7x57
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.

Ron
I never did understand all this buck fever crap. It's just another target.

And 200 yds ain't that far. Ask any High Power shooter. No optics allowed. Standing on your two hind legs.

The need to look for a back stop certainly adds challenge.

Do people shoot back at high power shooters shooting paper targets from a bench rest?
In Highpower, 200 & 300 are considered to replicate head shots.
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Ohio7x57
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.

Ron
I never did understand all this buck fever crap. It's just another target.

And 200 yds ain't that far. Ask any High Power shooter. No optics allowed. Standing on your two hind legs.

The need to look for a back stop certainly adds challenge.

Do people shoot back at high power shooters shooting paper targets from a bench rest?
No schit, I was going to tell the clown the exact same thing.
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Ohio7x57
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.

Ron
I never did understand all this buck fever crap. It's just another target.

And 200 yds ain't that far. Ask any High Power shooter. No optics allowed. Standing on your two hind legs.

The need to look for a back stop certainly adds challenge.

Do people shoot back at high power shooters shooting paper targets from a bench rest?

Service rifle matches are shot in standing position, no support, no sling at 200yds (also sitting, slung in with 60 seconds to get 10 rds off, including a mandatory mag change). At 300, prone, 70 seconds for 10 rds, mag change included, sling used. They are not shot from a bench rest at all.
Like a damn boss! He was SO calm. That was probably why he was able to pull off such a shot.
Originally Posted by OMCHamlin
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Ohio7x57
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.

Ron
I never did understand all this buck fever crap. It's just another target.

And 200 yds ain't that far. Ask any High Power shooter. No optics allowed. Standing on your two hind legs.

The need to look for a back stop certainly adds challenge.

Do people shoot back at high power shooters shooting paper targets from a bench rest?

Service rifle matches are shot in standing position, no support, no sling at 200yds (also sitting, slung in with 60 seconds to get 10 rds off, including a mandatory mag change). At 300, prone, 70 seconds for 10 rds, mag change included, sling used. They are not shot from a bench rest at all.
And 600 yards in the prone position, with a sling, and the rifle is not allowed to rest against the ground or compress your shooting jacket to the ground if the rifle is pressing against your shooting jacket - 20 shots in 20 minutes, single-loaded.
The comments from the campfire sofa veterans are always fun.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
"It's just another target" is BS. There is a HUGE difference in shooting at paper and shooting at people. If you have never had a human being in your sights and had to pull the trigger, you cannot fathom the intensity of it.
Rocky, I know you have been there, and done that.

And I have never had to target a human. Hope I never do.

But still, I believe such reactions occur in gradients. Some people falter at sight of live game. Some can not shoot a family pet when the need arises. Some can not take aim at a human in a calm manner.

But I am sure quite a few can. We could both name a few who became well known.
That was still and excellent shot. The optic he was using is not what any of us here would even consider for a 200 yard shot at wild game, so give the guy his proper accolades.
Thanks I know. I used to shoot service matches.

When someone is shooting back at you trying to kill you will that affect your accuracy?



Originally Posted by OMCHamlin
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Ohio7x57
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.

Ron
I never did understand all this buck fever crap. It's just another target.

And 200 yds ain't that far. Ask any High Power shooter. No optics allowed. Standing on your two hind legs.

The need to look for a back stop certainly adds challenge.

Do people shoot back at high power shooters shooting paper targets from a bench rest?

Service rifle matches are shot in standing position, no support, no sling at 200yds (also sitting, slung in with 60 seconds to get 10 rds off, including a mandatory mag change). At 300, prone, 70 seconds for 10 rds, mag change included, sling used. They are not shot from a bench rest at all.
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
"It's just another target" is BS. There is a HUGE difference in shooting at paper and shooting at people. If you have never had a human being in your sights and had to pull the trigger, you cannot fathom the intensity of it.
Rocky, I know you have been there, and done that.

And I have never had to target a human. Hope I never do.

But still, I believe such reactions occur in gradients. Some people falter at sight of live game. Some can not shoot a family pet when the need arises. Some can not take aim at a human in a calm manner.

But I am sure quite a few can. We could both name a few who became well known.


Shooting a deer or squirrel is the same as shooting a human being? lol
I doubt the coffee had near the effect the adrenalin had on his system during that event. He handled it well and made a decent shot. All in a day's work? Not exactly.
Run 2 100 yards sprints, do 30 push ups then run over to your rifle pick it up and get off 5 shots at 200 yards in 15 seconds with people standing around your target. lol


Originally Posted by Triggernosis
Originally Posted by OMCHamlin
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Ohio7x57
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.

Ron
I never did understand all this buck fever crap. It's just another target.

And 200 yds ain't that far. Ask any High Power shooter. No optics allowed. Standing on your two hind legs.

The need to look for a back stop certainly adds challenge.

Do people shoot back at high power shooters shooting paper targets from a bench rest?

Service rifle matches are shot in standing position, no support, no sling at 200yds (also sitting, slung in with 60 seconds to get 10 rds off, including a mandatory mag change). At 300, prone, 70 seconds for 10 rds, mag change included, sling used. They are not shot from a bench rest at all.
And 600 yards in the prone position, with a sling, and the rifle is not allowed to rest against the ground or compress your shooting jacket to the ground if the rifle is pressing against your shooting jacket - 20 shots in 20 minutes, single-loaded.
Paper doesn’t move. Sometimes you have to lead the perp a bit…b
Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
Dirty Harry could make that shot with a Smith Model 29- - - - -one handed!

Well we know you could have done it, not so sure about Clint though.
Imagine the hue and cry we’d be reading if this fella had missed and hit a citizen?


Well done, officer.
My very first thought on this is, since he didn't fck around he probably got to finish his coffee before it got cold.
I'm glad that cop is on our side. One shot at moderate range with an optic not designed for precision shooting- - - -game over. He could have been one of "Noo Yawk's Finest"- - - -do a 15 round mag dump with a Glock at 10 yards, miss the perp entirely, and take out a few innocent bystanders in the process!
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by stxhunter
180, is not that far with a rifle.

It is in an active shooter situation in an urban area

No. It actually is not.
I'm not an exceptional marksman. But I used to shoot an old Lee Enfield No4 MkII quite a bit. With its tangent sights from a rest, hitting a man size target at 200 yards was no big deal.
Originally Posted by Geno67
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by stxhunter
180, is not that far with a rifle.

It is in an active shooter situation in an urban area

No. It actually is not.

Have you been in this area of the shooting?
All you "It's no big deal" people...Please let us know how many people you have calmly shot.
Just to jerk a few triggers.

Those "In the Know' recognize the unique optics/laser mount on his rifle.

I don't know the guys a GBRS.

And we are off to the races. grin
I don’t care how good a shot any of us are when hunting or target shooting. This cop, when it mattered, made a great shot and stopped the bad guy. That’s as good a reason as any to appreciate that the shot that mattered was made.

If he’d missed or hit an innocent we’d all be (rightfully) angered but in this case the cop made a great shot and neutralized the scumbag. I’d happily buy that guy dinner and drinks …
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Just to jerk a few triggers.

Those "In the Know' recognize the unique optics/laser mount on his rifle.

I don't know the guys a GBRS.

And we are off to the races. grin

How many people did you kill in the war johnnycakes serving in the Air Force stateside as a non combat role gas specialist?
I saw his DBAL was in an unusual mount but the picture didn’t give me any better perspective. What is the mount he’s using on that DBAL?
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Just to jerk a few triggers.

Those "In the Know' recognize the unique optics/laser mount on his rifle.

I don't know the guys a GBRS.

And we are off to the races. grin
Thank goodness you didn't train him.
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
"It's just another target" is BS. There is a HUGE difference in shooting at paper and shooting at people. If you have never had a human being in your sights and had to pull the trigger, you cannot fathom the intensity of it.
Rocky, I know you have been there, and done that.

And I have never had to target a human. Hope I never do.

But still, I believe such reactions occur in gradients. Some people falter at sight of live game. Some can not shoot a family pet when the need arises. Some can not take aim at a human in a calm manner.

But I am sure quite a few can. We could both name a few who became well known.


Shooting a deer or squirrel is the same as shooting a human being? lol
It is for some.

Hatcock, Kyle

Not to mention the occasional psycopath.
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
I saw his DBAL was in an unusual mount but the picture didn’t give me any better perspective. What is the mount he’s using on that DBAL?

GBRS Hydra. Pretty new setup.

"Hold my coffee and watch this" Good on the officer...
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
I don’t care how good a shot any of us are when hunting or target shooting. This cop, when it mattered, made a great shot and stopped the bad guy. That’s as good a reason as any to appreciate that the shot that mattered was made.

If he’d missed or hit an innocent we’d all be (rightfully) angered but in this case the cop made a great shot and neutralized the scumbag. I’d happily buy that guy dinner and drinks …
As would I. A good guy did a great job in a professional manner.

I am just shocked that many on a hunting board would consider this extraordinary marksmanship.

In my opinion, every cop should train and be certified capable of such marksmanship before being issued a rifle.

If one is not capable of equivalent marksmanship in the field, one need not purchase a deer tag in this part of Idaho or Eastern Oregon.

Such performance should be recognized as the standard to be achieved, rather than lauded as extraordinary.
Agree , shooting a standing antelope in an alfalfa field is the same as shooting an active shooter in a populated urban environment shooting back at you


Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
I don’t care how good a shot any of us are when hunting or target shooting. This cop, when it mattered, made a great shot and stopped the bad guy. That’s as good a reason as any to appreciate that the shot that mattered was made.

If he’d missed or hit an innocent we’d all be (rightfully) angered but in this case the cop made a great shot and neutralized the scumbag. I’d happily buy that guy dinner and drinks …
As would I. A good guy did a great job in a professional manner.

I am just shocked that many on a hunting board would consider this extraordinary marksmanship.

In my opinion, every cop should train and be certified capable of such marksmanship before being issued a rifle.

If one is not capable of equivalent marksmanship in the field, one need not purchase a deer tag in this part of Idaho or Eastern Oregon.

Such performance should be recognized as the standard to be achieved, rather than lauded as extraordinary.
I would like to shake that guys hand and thank him for his service! Job Well Done!
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
I don’t care how good a shot any of us are when hunting or target shooting. This cop, when it mattered, made a great shot and stopped the bad guy. That’s as good a reason as any to appreciate that the shot that mattered was made.

If he’d missed or hit an innocent we’d all be (rightfully) angered but in this case the cop made a great shot and neutralized the scumbag. I’d happily buy that guy dinner and drinks …
As would I. A good guy did a great job in a professional manner.

I am just shocked that many on a hunting board would consider this extraordinary marksmanship.

Why don't you quote where any, much less "many", used the word "extraordinary marksmanship".

Most, if not all, agree a 200 yd shot on a KD range against a IPSC target is pretty simple.

Now add in bullets going both directions, innocents on the range, a red dot, resting on the side of the truck, moving target, and a single shot that shuts down the bad guy instantly.

Based on the recorded performance of LE shooting it does qualify as an extraordinary shot in the real world.
Originally Posted by ribka
Agree , shooting a standing antelope in an alfalfa field is the same as shooting an active shooter in a populated urban shooting back at you.
Really, did you see anyone shooting at the marksman cop in question?

If that was in the video, I missed it.

That is the advantage of taking position 200 yds away. Not only was he a decent shot. He was also fairly intelligent.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
I don’t care how good a shot any of us are when hunting or target shooting. This cop, when it mattered, made a great shot and stopped the bad guy. That’s as good a reason as any to appreciate that the shot that mattered was made.

If he’d missed or hit an innocent we’d all be (rightfully) angered but in this case the cop made a great shot and neutralized the scumbag. I’d happily buy that guy dinner and drinks …
As would I. A good guy did a great job in a professional manner.

I am just shocked that many on a hunting board would consider this extraordinary marksmanship.

Why don't you quote where any, much less "many", used the word "extraordinary marksmanship".

Most, if not all, agree a 200 yd shot on a KD range against a IPSC target is pretty simple.

Now add in bullets going both directions, innocents on the range, a red dot, resting on the side of the truck, moving target, and a single shot that shuts down the bad guy instantly.

Based on the recorded performance of LE shooting it does qualify as an extraordinary shot in the real world.
And there, in your last sentence, you have completely made my point.

What level of marksmanship was required to graduate Marine boot camp a few years ago before they became woke?
Originally Posted by stxhunter
180, is not that far with a rifle.

Exactly, double or triple that and it gets to be more of a challenge. But never the less, a nice outcome.
Originally Posted by Triggernosis
That was still and excellent shot. The optic he was using is not what any of us here would even consider for a 200 yard shot at wild game, so give the guy his proper accolades.

Yep, he didn't need a small Hubble with Mil-quad, dots etc, just a red dot to make that shot.
Also factor in all the chit the officer will go through AFTER the shot. Every cop out there today knows if they use any force, especially lethal force, their lives are going to be shredded. There will be investigations, the media, social media bullchit, pressure on their families and most likely some sort of lawsuit to deal with that will ruin them financially. All that is a very real issue that can cloud some officers judgement and abilities at the worst possible time. Something the Fire tough guys don't have to think about.
A good shot but nothing overly difficult IMO. The assailant was likely armed with a pistol and seemed unaware of the cops presence. I didn’t get the impression that this cop was being shot at. A 180 yard shot with a makeshift rest at a target not shooting at you and not using cover isn’t a difficult shot. It was bad tactics by the bad guy more than great shooting or tactics by the good guy.
Originally Posted by ribka
Run 2 100 yards sprints, do 30 push ups then run over to your rifle pick it up and get off 5 shots at 200 yards in 15 seconds with people standing around your target. lol


Originally Posted by Triggernosis
Originally Posted by OMCHamlin
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Ohio7x57
He is the Iceman! He calmly out his coffee on the dash, calmly got his rifle out and chambered a round, neutralized the threat with one well placed shot. All in a days work.

Ron
I never did understand all this buck fever crap. It's just another target.

And 200 yds ain't that far. Ask any High Power shooter. No optics allowed. Standing on your two hind legs.

The need to look for a back stop certainly adds challenge.

Do people shoot back at high power shooters shooting paper targets from a bench rest?

Service rifle matches are shot in standing position, no support, no sling at 200yds (also sitting, slung in with 60 seconds to get 10 rds off, including a mandatory mag change). At 300, prone, 70 seconds for 10 rds, mag change included, sling used. They are not shot from a bench rest at all.
And 600 yards in the prone position, with a sling, and the rifle is not allowed to rest against the ground or compress your shooting jacket to the ground if the rifle is pressing against your shooting jacket - 20 shots in 20 minutes, single-loaded.

It's been a while, I DO miss it. They allow OPTICS now!
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Why don't you quote where any, much less "many", used the word "extraordinary marksmanship".

Most, if not all, agree a 200 yd shot on a KD range against a IPSC target is pretty simple.

Now add in bullets going both directions, innocents on the range, a red dot, resting on the side of the truck, moving target, and a single shot that shuts down the bad guy instantly.

Based on the recorded performance of LE shooting it does qualify as an extraordinary shot in the real world.
And there, in your last sentence, you have completely made my point.

What level of marksmanship was required to graduate Marine boot camp a few years ago before they became woke?

I called it an "extraodinary shot" because the marksmanship required was just a small part of what you saw in the video.

That said to instantly incapacitate a person at 180 yards requires an extremely precise shot.

As you seem to think flat range marksmanship is all that would be involved in this shooting I don't know that there is much more to disscuss.

We are going to have to agree to disagree.

But I do agree with you that outcome was positive and the cop deserves a beer for his effort. grin
Originally Posted by MOGC
Also factor in all the chit the officer will go through AFTER the shot. Every cop out there today knows if they use any force, especially lethal force, their lives are going to be shredded. There will be investigations, the media, social media bullchit, pressure on their families and most likely some sort of lawsuit to deal with that will ruin them financially. All that is a very real issue that can cloud some officers judgement and abilities at the worst possible time. Something the Fire tough guys don't have to think about.

So you mean they will get treated like a mere civilian that used deadly force? How horrible
But don't you make your living by making schitt appear to be much tougher than it really is and selling "tools" at extravegant prices to overcome these imagined obstacles?

How is it any more difficult to hit a human sized target than to hit a whistle pig at the same distance?

As long as one is of the mind set to ignore the basic fact that it is a human.
Originally Posted by mud_bogger
Originally Posted by MOGC
Also factor in all the chit the officer will go through AFTER the shot. Every cop out there today knows if they use any force, especially lethal force, their lives are going to be shredded. There will be investigations, the media, social media bullchit, pressure on their families and most likely some sort of lawsuit to deal with that will ruin them financially. All that is a very real issue that can cloud some officers judgement and abilities at the worst possible time. Something the Fire tough guys don't have to think about.

So you mean they will get treated like a mere civilian that used deadly force? How horrible

I doubt they get treated that well.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
That said to instantly incapacitate a person at 180 yards requires an extremely precise shot.
Article said perp was hit in the leg.

Good thing the cops weren't trained by you/your friends - it would have been Uvalde again.
He obviously wasn’t being shot at himself. So, other than the adrenaline present with shooting a person, did he do anything anyone couldn’t t have done with a 30-30? Meh…good shooting but pretty routine.
He made a good shot when it was needed. I dont understand the need to schit all over it
Government agents have qualified immunity. They NEVER get treated the same as civilians. Horrible, horrible idea.

And no - it's not a hard shot. It was a good shot but not particularly difficult in any way. The human head is 7" across on average. 1 MOA @200 yards is 2". 2 moa (very sloppy) @200 yards is 4". 4 MOA @200 yards is 8". Even if if it had been offhand, it would have still been a good shot but not that impressive.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
He obviously wasn’t being shot at himself. So, other than the adrenaline present with shooting a person, did he do anything anyone couldn’t t have done with a 30-30? Meh…good shooting but pretty routine.

Please link some more "routine" 180 yd shots on active shooters for the class.

We are all very interested.

Thanks. laugh
Originally Posted by mud_bogger
He made a good shot when it was needed. I dont understand the need to schit all over it
He did a great job when it was needed.

A fair evaluation is not schitting on his accomplishment.
I didn’t read any details on it or know any of the particulars. With that said, someone said the perp was hit in the leg. Was he? I don’t know… but if he was, was that where the shooter intended to hit him? If I wanted to eliminate a threat the leg wouldn’t be my primary target I don’t think.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by JoeBob
He obviously wasn’t being shot at himself. So, other than the adrenaline present with shooting a person, did he do anything anyone couldn’t t have done with a 30-30? Meh…good shooting but pretty routine.

Please link some more "routine" 180 yd shots on active shooters for the class.

We are all very interested.

Thanks. laugh
You don't think it happens frequently in combat?
Johnny. What are the marksmanship requirements for graduating Air Force basic training when you went?

How many hours of firearms training did you complete?






Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
I don’t care how good a shot any of us are when hunting or target shooting. This cop, when it mattered, made a great shot and stopped the bad guy. That’s as good a reason as any to appreciate that the shot that mattered was made.

If he’d missed or hit an innocent we’d all be (rightfully) angered but in this case the cop made a great shot and neutralized the scumbag. I’d happily buy that guy dinner and drinks …
As would I. A good guy did a great job in a professional manner.

I am just shocked that many on a hunting board would consider this extraordinary marksmanship.

Why don't you quote where any, much less "many", used the word "extraordinary marksmanship".

Most, if not all, agree a 200 yd shot on a KD range against a IPSC target is pretty simple.

Now add in bullets going both directions, innocents on the range, a red dot, resting on the side of the truck, moving target, and a single shot that shuts down the bad guy instantly.

Based on the recorded performance of LE shooting it does qualify as an extraordinary shot in the real world.
Interesting…I’ll have to check it out.

Thanks
He probably did shoot him in the leg if I had to guess. I read several articles about it and none stated where the LE hit the perp. The perp died from a self inflicted gunshot however. If that's the case, it was a crappy but effective shot.

"Investigators said Collins sustained two gunshot wounds; one consistent with an officer-fired shot, and one consistent with a self-inflicted shot."
The perp was shot center of the chest. according to the NY Post. Rio7
Originally Posted by RIO7
The perp was shot center of the chest. according to the NY Post. Rio7
That is thought to be the self-inflicted wound that ended the episode.
Originally Posted by ribka
Johnny. What are the marksmanship requirements for graduating Air Force basic training when you went?

How many hours of firearms training did you complete?

Pretty extensive at the time I went through.

The M-16s had 22 LR conversions.

Each boot got one 50 round box of 22 Long Rifle.

10 rounds for training and a 40 round course of fire for certification.

That's not a joke but exactly what happened. laugh

I got all Wizardry on shooting after my time in service.

Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by RIO7
The perp was shot center of the chest. according to the NY Post. Rio7
That is thought to be the self-inflicted wound that ended the episode.

^^

"Investigators said Collins sustained two gunshot wounds; one consistent with an officer-fired shot, and one consistent with a self-inflicted shot. The Pierce County Medical Examiner’s office ruled Collins’ death as a homicide from a rifle wound to the chest."
So you've had no formal combat training . I knew before I asked as had many friends go through AF basic. They played volleyball instead of forced ruck marches lol

now I understand





Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by ribka
Johnny. What are the marksmanship requirements for graduating Air Force basic training when you went?

How many hours of firearms training did you complete?

Pretty extensive at the time I went through.

The M-16s had 22 LR conversions.

Each boot got one 50 round box of 22 Long Rifle.

10 rounds for training and a 40 round course of fire for certification.

That's not a joke but exactly what happened. laugh

I got all Wizardry on shooting after my time in service.

Originally Posted by ribka
So you've had no formal combat training . I knew before I asked as had many friends go through AF basic. They played volleyball instead of forced ruck marches lol

now I understand

I have had lots of formal training including cutting edge CQB. LOTS. wink

Just not any in the Air Force 4 decades ago.
Nice police work.

Keep them in the 10 ring.
Well done, Officer!

The second thing that came to mind, " Is Garandimal fussing because he braced himself on the vehicle and didn't shoot off of his feet?"

Regardless, calmly doing a difficult part of the job. Well Done, Officer!
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I have had lots of formal training including cutting edge CQB. LOTS. wink
LOL!!!! laugh laugh laugh laugh
As soon as I saw his optic mount I figured he knew what he was doing. .....not surprising.
Any other source/link

Does not work for me.

Also may be too real for youtube to carry it.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I have had lots of formal training including cutting edge CQB...

...with many many Big Macs... as well as bucket upon bucket of Häagen-Dazs?

Rum Raisin?
Originally Posted by mud_bogger
He made a good shot when it was needed. I dont understand the need to schit all over it

Clearly you have, however briefly, forgot where you were. I agree with you 100%, for the record, that day, he was a boss!
Originally Posted by LouisB
Any other source/link

Does not work for me.

Also may be too real for youtube to carry it.

the source:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1575300135377989633
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I have had lots of formal training including cutting edge CQB...

...with many many Big Macs... as well as bucket upon bucket of Häagen-Dazs?

Rum Raisin?

Mmm Good.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I have had lots of formal training including cutting edge CQB...

...with many many Big Macs... as well as bucket upon bucket of Häagen-Dazs?

Rum Raisin?

Mmm Good.

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You look more fit in that pic... 2001?

...and sober.
Note that not one of the chest pounders and "It wasn't a hard shot" claimers has responded with how many people they have shot in anger. I must assume that the grand total from all of them is therefore - zero.

So when discussing how this officer performed, they should probably STFU and go back to plinking at tin cans.
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Note that not one of the chest pounders and "It wasn't a hard shot" claimers has responded with how many people they have shot in anger. I must assume that the grand total from all of them is therefore - zero.

So when discussing how this officer performed, they should probably STFU and go back to plinking at tin cans.


smile
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Note that not one of the chest pounders and "It wasn't a hard shot" claimers has responded with how many people they have shot in anger. I must assume that the grand total from all of them is therefore - zero.

So when discussing how this officer performed, they should probably STFU and go back to plinking at tin cans.

I haven’t judged the officer or shooting one way or the other, I’m just curious as to why you would stipulate "shot in anger" as part of your position on the matter?
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Note that not one of the chest pounders and "It wasn't a hard shot" claimers has responded with how many people they have shot in anger. I must assume that the grand total from all of them is therefore - zero.

So when discussing how this officer performed, they should probably STFU and go back to plinking at tin cans.
Plenty of people both good and bad have been shooting each other “in anger” for as long as there have been weapons to shoot. It may be difficult for some people but it isn’t for all.

This vary video shows that. The “bad guy” had no problem pulling the trigger and the cop nonchalantly sat down his coffee uncased his rifle and shot the shooter with apparent ease and no mental gymnastics.
To damn bad he wasn't in Uvalde that fateful day......
Originally Posted by keith
I would like to shake that guys hand and thank him for his service! Job Well Done!

Same here. Would like to buy him a coffee to replace the one that got cold on him.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I have had lots of formal training including cutting edge CQB...

...with many many Big Macs... as well as bucket upon bucket of Häagen-Dazs?

Rum Raisin?

Mmm Good.

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Hookie schit!! You know Billy Gibbons?
amazing what someone can accomplish with practice, practice practice.
He didn’t look dry angry when he made that shot. Bored? Yes. Angry? No.
Pffft! Optics on a rifle.

Impressive would have been forehead with irons and a Beretta.


As far as being cool?

He must h ave gotten pretty worked up.
Ain't nothin' gettin' my attention before i see the bottom of my coffe cup!
That was an outstanding shot
No other way to look at it. One shot, leaning against his cruiser. Red dot sight... most agencies do not train at 180 yards, most don't have ranges that far.
Dept i retired from used 55 Ballistic tip loads. Not sure what they use now but i think TAP.
It was a good shot, but not hard. I could make it with a pistol.
Officer was taking fire from the suspect when he made the shot, which was fatal.
Originally Posted by stxhunter
It was a good shot, but not hard. I could make it with a pistol.

This is golden.
Originally Posted by MOGC
The comments from the campfire sofa veterans are always fun.

The best comment on the whole silly thread.

The collection of keyboard warriors who have never fired a shot in anger nor been shot at by a competent adversary.

Funny that we know nothing about the perp.

Anyone who cannot hit a man sized target at 180 yards with a well equipped AR from an improvised rest needs more training.

Good luck trying to find any account of the shooting other than the OP's original link.
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by stxhunter
It was a good shot, but not hard. I could make it with a pistol.

This is golden.
I could and there are people here that know I could.
Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by keith
I would like to shake that guys hand and thank him for his service! Job Well Done!
Same here. Would like to buy him a coffee to replace the one that got cold on him.
Scott, it didn’t seem like he was engaged long enough to allow the Java to cool, but agree with the sentiments.
Good mindset. The shot was easy, for a fella with the right mindset. For myself, and a lot of country boys around here, that is short range. Hell, my range at the house is three hundred, can shoot a thousand over the next ridge. With a decent AR and ammo, 180 is no trouble at all. Even with the mini Aimpoint type sight the officer was using. Nice to see a man who can do the deed when warranted with a minimum of fuss.
Originally Posted by stxhunter
It was a good shot, but not hard. I could make it with a pistol.

LOL.

I have killed a lot of stuff with handguns including this elk at 200 yds.

You are a dumb schiet.

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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by stxhunter
It was a good shot, but not hard. I could make it with a pistol.

This is golden.



Laughing.
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by keith
I would like to shake that guys hand and thank him for his service! Job Well Done!
Same here. Would like to buy him a coffee to replace the one that got cold on him.
Scott, it didn’t seem like he was engaged long enough to allow the Java to cool, but agree with the sentiments.




+1

We need more coos like him. But first, we need to get rid of the scumbags who prevent them from doing their jobs.
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by stxhunter
It was a good shot, but not hard. I could make it with a pistol.

This is golden.



Laughing.
Laugh all you want, I can do it.
I used to make money shooting clay pigeons at 100 yards on the berm, with my carry Glock. 5 out of 5 was the offer, and it usually had someone getting out their wallet. Until word got around. I had a Cimmarron copy of the Colt SAA in .45 Colt that I could do it with also. The only folks who laugh about long shots with a handgun are folks that haven’t done it.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by stxhunter
It was a good shot, but not hard. I could make it with a pistol.

LOL.

I have killed a lot of stuff with handguns including this elk at 200 yds.

You are a dumb schiet.

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I shot handguns competitively for over ten yrs when I was younger dumb chit.
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by stxhunter
It was a good shot, but not hard. I could make it with a pistol.

This is golden.



Laughing.
Laugh all you want, I can do it.

Do what?

Run your suck?
Sure.

Stop an active shooter at 180yds with a duty issued handgun?

Sleep it off chuckhead.
Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
Originally Posted by stxhunter
180, is not that far with a rifle.

It is for a cop who's been sitting on his butt most of the time and has to use an improvised rest such as the side of a car... laugh

You gotta remember, most cops these days are first, not gun guys, second, are not riflemen.

Ed
That's a very good shot compared to some LEOs I know, having watched them shoot. That guy is a pro, need more like him.

DF
Originally Posted by stxhunter
I shot handguns competitively for over ten yrs when I was younger dumb chit.

Well then tell the class exactly what Comp is about stopping Active Shooters at 180yds and how many of those Comps you won.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by stxhunter
It was a good shot, but not hard. I could make it with a pistol.

LOL.

I have killed a lot of stuff with handguns including this elk at 200 yds.

You are a dumb schiet.

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Oh golly gee I can post a pic also, headshot on a moving hog at 80 yd.

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Cop made a good shot with a red dot. I once hit a hog running directly away from me at about 160 or so with a red dot on a 300 blackout ar. The dot pretty much covered the whole pig at the l9nger ranges. That was a ton of fun. I killed 3 out of one group.

I hit the first big sow and the pigs were running everywhere. I shot 9 rounds in about 10 seconds put 3 in the first and 2 rounds into each of the other 2 and must have missed one or two.

The 125g ballistic tips at 2250 worked but didn't really put them down with authority. I bought a 458 socom after that hunt but ditched it after tons of reliability issues. Next time I go to Texas I think I'll take my 350 legend ar and marlin outfitter 444.

Bb
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by stxhunter
It was a good shot, but not hard. I could make it with a pistol.

LOL.

I have killed a lot of stuff with handguns including this elk at 200 yds.

You are a dumb schiet.

[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]
Oh golly gee I can post a pic also, headshot on a moving hog at 80 yd.

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Wow that is impressive.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by stxhunter
I shot handguns competitively for over ten yrs when I was younger dumb chit.

Well then tell the class exactly what Comp is about stopping Active Shooters at 180yds and how many of those Comps you won.
Hey Burnsie, why don't you post up that picture again of the elk you nearly gut-shot at 700? laugh
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by keith
I would like to shake that guys hand and thank him for his service! Job Well Done!
Same here. Would like to buy him a coffee to replace the one that got cold on him.
Scott, it didn’t seem like he was engaged long enough to allow the Java to cool, but agree with the sentiments.


This is true.
Dude was cool as a cucumber.
Originally Posted by stxhunter
It was a good shot, but not hard. I could make it with a pistol.


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John. Roger is a lot better than lots of folks out there. Person wise and shooting wise... FWIW you are barking up a wrong tree here IMHO though I know you could care less.

As to 180 yard shot this shouldn't even be news. It should be a norm. That its news and people are impressed says a lot.
Just checking in to see if the chest thumping was ongoing.

Yes and rising to new levels !

No one seems to question that this "story" cannot be found in any contemporary media.

You guys could get hired by MSNBC or CNN. If somebody says it, it must be true.

Still waiting for all your 1st person accounts of shoot outs with the bad guys, medals awarded, feature stories in the media and what have you. Killing a baby Elk does not qualify.

I did once stop a Jambony with my Bauer 25 trying to steal my CB radio. But he was about 14 and unarmed.

Words from a smart guy.

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I liked the way he put his Starbucks on the dash without spilling a drop. Smooth guy.
Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
I used to make money shooting clay pigeons at 100 yards on the berm, with my carry Glock. 5 out of 5 was the offer, and it usually had someone getting out their wallet. Until word got around. I had a Cimmarron copy of the Colt SAA in .45 Colt that I could do it with also. The only folks who laugh about long shots with a handgun are folks that haven’t done it.

How many times have you been shot shooting clay pigeons?

Sounds super dangerous
Originally Posted by stxhunter
180, is not that far with a rifle.

It is with a red dot which is most likely not magnified and a crappy rest!! I think there was some luck with the shot.
Originally Posted by UpThePole
Just checking in to see if the chest thumping was ongoing.

Yes and rising to new levels !

No one seems to question that this "story" cannot be found in any contemporary media.

You guys could get hired by MSNBC or CNN. If somebody says it, it must be true.

Still waiting for all your 1st person accounts of shoot outs with the bad guys, medals awarded, feature stories in the media and what have you. Killing a baby Elk does not qualify.

I did once stop a Jambony with my Bauer 25 trying to steal my CB radio. But he was about 14 and unarmed.

Words from a smart guy.

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Actually, there are plenty media accounts of the incident, if you're smart enough to use a computer. Much more comprehensive than the OP. That's how we know the officer was taking fire and the bad guy died. It also shows the suspects weapons and describes the scenario.

I could have posted it, but I don't like lazy m'fckers.
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
Originally Posted by stxhunter
180, is not that far with a rifle.

It is for a cop who's been sitting on his butt most of the time and has to use an improvised rest such as the side of a car... laugh

You gotta remember, most cops these days are first, not gun guys, second, are not riflemen.

Ed
That's a very good shot compared to some LEOs I know, having watched them shoot. That guy is a pro, need more like him.

DF

Las Vegas cops recently got in a shooting with a suspect. Cops fired 38 rounds. Perp was hit once in the elbow.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by UpThePole
Just checking in to see if the chest thumping was ongoing.

Yes and rising to new levels !

No one seems to question that this "story" cannot be found in any contemporary media.

You guys could get hired by MSNBC or CNN. If somebody says it, it must be true.

Still waiting for all your 1st person accounts of shoot outs with the bad guys, medals awarded, feature stories in the media and what have you. Killing a baby Elk does not qualify.

I did once stop a Jambony with my Bauer 25 trying to steal my CB radio. But he was about 14 and unarmed.

Words from a smart guy.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Actually, there are plenty media accounts of the incident, if you're smart enough to use a computer. Much more comprehensive than the OP. That's how we know the officer was taking fire and the bad guy died. It also shows the suspects weapons and describes the scenario.

I could have posted it, but I don't like lazy m'fckers.
Wait. You mean like the other thread right here that has “the rest of the story”?
The man was cool, clear, collected and did what he needed to do, he undoubtedly understood the need to train and did so. He made a commitment and made it count.

A lot more than most of "expert" keyboard commandos on here could do, heck most don't have the balls to admit it.. and beat their chests exclaiming how easy it would be to shoot another human being, and what a easy shot it would be while the suck down their PBRs and stuff their faces with popcorn sitting in their lazy boys......whatta pitiful lot of losers.
Originally Posted by stxhunter
It was a good shot, but not hard. I could make it with a pistol.
I could back you up with your wifes red ryder.... laffin
Originally Posted by ltppowell
I could have posted it, but I don't like lazy m'fckers.

Tell us how you feel about those m'fckers at Uvalde
Originally Posted by johnn
Originally Posted by stxhunter
It was a good shot, but not hard. I could make it with a pistol.
I could back you up with your wifes red ryder.... laffin
laugh you want I could make that shot with one of my pistols.
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by johnn
Originally Posted by stxhunter
It was a good shot, but not hard. I could make it with a pistol.
I could back you up with your wifes red ryder.... laffin
laugh you want I could make that shot with one of my pistols.
FYI, this thread was never about you.... jus saying
Still waiting for link that provides recognized news source verification.
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