Since this is a “semi anonymous forum” I was wondering how many folks actually leave a handgun or rifle in a vehicle?
I read and other places were some folks leave a handgun under the seat or a rifle Tucktaway or shotgun depending on the setting, but I just can’t seem to bring myself to do this. I’ve only had my truck broken into once, and they took off with a nice pair of sunglasses and a gene Ingram knife That I’m still pissed off about losing. Can’t imagine how it feel to lose a firearm that way.
I used to (like 20 years ago) have a Krieghoff sticker in the window. Thing is - it was just the K insignia. You had to know what it was to get it. BUT I don't generally leave guns in the truck unless going in a place where I can't carry.
That said - I also live in a small farm town. I've been here 8 years this April and never locked a door. Crime is about zero and what is here is about 100% drinking related.
Since this is a “semi anonymous forum” I was wondering how many folks actually leave a handgun or rifle in a vehicle?
I read and other places were some folks leave a handgun under the seat or a rifle Tucktaway or shotgun depending on the setting, but I just can’t seem to bring myself to do this. I’ve only had my truck broken into once, and they took off with a nice pair of sunglasses and a gene Ingram knife That I’m still pissed off about losing. Can’t imagine how it feel to lose a firearm that way.
little option at times. Of course usually if there is a gun in there, there is also a cur dog in the back seat.
What do you do? A handgun is only used to fight your way back to a long gun. Won't carry a long gun around on me, so the only option is have it in a vehicle.
Stolen is a chance for sure. Then again generally speaking we don't leave vehicles in areas prone to theft mostly. If we can avoid it.
No gun stickers and very seldom leave one in the truck or car. I use to have to leave it in the car when I had to go into the office. Now I work from home and it is not an issue
Slummy makes a point don't advertise especially if you live in a bigger city.. as far as the original question there's something never a vehicle I own along with tractors and heavy trucks. but I'm not even near a big city. my biggest threat is is in the critter department. and also when the neighbors you do have think you're a crazy sob and will shoot somebody just for looking at you wrong keeps a thievery down.
The pistol was stolen from a locked car and and was the gun issued to a Department of Interior Bureau of Land Management Agent. He could not bring it into some building on San Francisco and thus locked it in the car from where it was stolen. Several days later it allegedly went off by itself when the illegal in possession of it (he said he found it under a park bench) was "twirling" the pistol on his index finger when if fell and went off several times, striking Kate Steinle at least once and thus killing her.
So the State of California passed a law the next year making it a misdemeanor (and firing offense for anyone in law enforcement) to having a gun stolen from them by leaving the gun in locked vehicle unless it was in a locked case secured to a part of the vehicle. So now it is a crime to be a victim. But tell that to Kate Steinle's father.
Yep, a small back-up lives in the truck. Except when in use, the truck is always in a locked building!
As others have mentioned, if I must go into a “gun free zone” my carry gets hidden as well. If I lose the due to a theft…..it would be pretty devastating! memtb
I leave a Savage 24F in 223/20 in the foot well for the 3rd row seats with those seats folded down.
I used to leave a rifle in a pick up truck rear window rack, but decided that when I moved from the country to the suburbs it made my neighbors uncomfortable.
Yes, sometimes several... Guess I view it differently. I have some nice guns that serve their purpose very well. But If one or two gets swiped, BFD.. Get another.
I have a handgun in the truck. Not sure how much longer I can get away with it, but I've never locked my vehicles around town or at home. We've been seeing more theft since the [bleep] hit the fan, mostly thugs coming from off the mountain doing night time runs.
They dont care about the stickers around here, you have a 4x4 truck, they just assume. Literally about two weeks ago they rode through my buddies neighborhood and busted out windows in all the nice trucks looking for guns.
I have gotten better about bringing it in with me when I get home due to all the break ins.
I don't have stickers. I don't leave guns in a vehicle unattended/at night. If I am carrying, I am carryings. On the rare occasion I need to leave a gun in a vehicle, the vehicle's locked, it's during the day, in the wide open. I do not park my vehicle in sketchy places. Last time I did it was in that schithole Nashville and mine was one of seven broken into over night in the hotel parking lot. Fortunately, I had taken all 4 guns I was traveling with into my room for the night. All that was stolen was a couple of hundred rounds of .458 SOCOM ammo I was taking to my grandson. The thieves also missed a $3500 air rifle in another vehicle (young lady traveling to a match somewhere.) Now, at hotels/motels I leave nothing of value in the vehicle and don't lock the doors.
Those 'no gun' signs are for the other folks. I take my conceal carry right on in. No one knows it's there but me and that's the way I like it.
I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
You gotta remember too, that I live in a rural area. Most places don't care whether you carry or not. I know of 1 business that has a 'no weapons' sign. I ignore it.
Of course I do. I go hunting a lot. I don't pack the musket into the gas station, store or restaurant. When traveling overnight, which is fairly common during hunting season, the guns and optics come in the motel with me. I don't carry my handgun in the school or courthouse here. I've never had one stolen but try to minimize the risk. I REALLY hate leaving my dog in the car. Loss of a gun would be inconvenient but losing the dog would be terrible.
I rarely leave a rifle in the truck and never overnight. I do have an aftermarket steel console handgun safe in the truck that I can lock up a handgun and it’ll be safe from thieves for a little while. I also have a steel pistol box with a cable in the wife’s car for the times we go out and I have a beer. I can lock away my CC pistol in case I get stopped by a cop.
Living in the sticks has its advantages and guns is one of the biggest, all my trucks are loaded up, never know what is going to step out on ranch, I have CCH, so can carry loaded chamber on long guns, but during hunting season not a good idea because of hassle with Wardens if pulled over with all the city road hunters. I do take long guns out when I go to cities because my trucks absolutely look armed, but wife and I are always armed and ready.
With the passage of "safe storage" laws in many states/communities, we're starting to slide down a slippery slope. I believe some of these laws specifically address a firearm in a vehicle needing to be in a locked container.
Prosecuting or suing people that have lost firearms due to theft, where the firearm is then used in a crime, will be the next pandora's box that opens.
With the passage of "safe storage" laws in many states/communities, we're starting to slide down a slippery slope. I believe some of these laws specifically address a firearm in a vehicle needing to be in a locked container.
Prosecuting or suing people that have lost firearms due to theft, where the firearm is then used in a crime, will be the next pandora's box that opens.
We have storage laws like the above here in the peoples republik of konnecticut. A $25 safe seems to satisfy the law so far. Stupidity is the norm here.
Years ago, a friend had his competition shotgun in his vehicle all locked up and stopped for supper before heading home. Came out of the eating establishment and his vehicle was gone. I guess locking up your vehicle really helps
With the passage of "safe storage" laws in many states/communities, we're starting to slide down a slippery slope. I believe some of these laws specifically address a firearm in a vehicle needing to be in a locked container.
Prosecuting or suing people that have lost firearms due to theft, where the firearm is then used in a crime, will be the next pandora's box that opens.
We have storage laws like the above here in the peoples republik of konnecticut. A $25 safe seems to satisfy the law so far. Stupidity is the norm here.
Almost never leave one in the car. If the sign says “Handgun Fee Zone” I carry anyway. I’d rather get caught with It and asked to leave than get caught without it when I need it. My Doctors and Dentists all know I’m a retired LEO and don’t have a problem with me carrying. I ask them first. If they say no, I find a new Doc or Dentist. Just how I roll.
I caught XDM 9mm pistols on sale a few years back for something like $350 each, so the vehicles each get an XDM in the console with at least a few magazines. The truck also gets an old 870 Express 7rnd with sideplate shell carrier under the seat, plus an over the shoulder magazine carrier with 6 more XDM magazines. All fairly cheap and all do the job. Not the end of the world if a vehicle gets robbed someday, as you can't predict such things, although I also don't advertise with decals and stickers.
I bet 1/2 of the vehicles on the road in my area have a firearm in them and that goes up to 3/4 for trucks.
I leave my cc pistol in my vehicle when I go into a business which doesn't allow for cc. I live in a farming community, so everyone has guns. During duck season I keep a shotgun in my pickup. When I go to town (pop about 9k) I throw a hunting coat over it. I keep a scoped ruger 10/22 in my truck 24/7. I never cover it. I lock my truck every time I get out. Although there are druggies everywhere I've never had a gun stolen.
I leave lots of stuff in my truck...during the daytime in a populated area. I throw a jacket over all rifles and place other stuff out of view. At night it is in a closed garage. Would not leave anything that I cared about in a locked vehicle at night ANYWHERE...
If one tucks an arm out of sight, it's considered concealed here in Oregon. Better have ones carry papers on hand should some incident warrant a search of one's rig. Even with open carry being OK, there's that brief period when one is getting in or out of their rig that would be a gray area.
Years ago my pickup was broken into, and a savage bolt 22 was stolen. They must have been in a hurry. And only wanted the rifle. On the passenger side floorboard, they left a couple grand worth of cameras and equipment. The rifle was in my easy rider window rack. Dumb move on my part.
I don’t have stupid shît like NRA or 30 point Bone Kollecta’ michael waddell stickers plastered all over my back window
His and her Browning buck and doe on the side windows. With “Kyle and Steph”
This is exactly the attention that causes them to be stolen. Drive a old folks car with an orthopedic seat cushion, and a few covid masks on the dash. Your gun will be safe
I'm just saying the brodozer with a punisher sticker is SCREAMING "G19 in the glove box". Much like Affliction jeans, faux ostrich boots and a tap out shirt with white Oakley shades screams Douchebag.
You go to town unarmed? Because then whenever you jump in your rig you have a gun. You just answered it in the second quote for yourself with your question.
If one tucks an arm out of sight, it's considered concealed here in Oregon. Better have ones carry papers on hand should some incident warrant a search of one's rig. Even with open carry being OK, there's that brief period when one is getting in or out of their rig that would be a gray area.
Not a habitual practice for me.
Or claim that your going to or from hunting or fishing and your covered.
Since this is a “semi anonymous forum” I was wondering how many folks actually leave a handgun or rifle in a vehicle?
I read and other places were some folks leave a handgun under the seat or a rifle Tucktaway or shotgun depending on the setting, but I just can’t seem to bring myself to do this. I’ve only had my truck broken into once, and they took off with a nice pair of sunglasses and a gene Ingram knife That I’m still pissed off about losing. Can’t imagine how it feel to lose a firearm that way.
Sometimes you have no choice, if you have to run into the DMV or Post Office, you only option is to leave it in the car or risk State or federal gun charges.
Cheapo 9mm in my truck 24-7-365. Well concealed, but easy to get too. Any work it needs to do is going to be at arms length, so don't need a $1000+ tricked out rig with fancy sights etc.
I ain't betting my life on a $250 gun. If it got "lost" I'd put another one in.
I've got at least three guns in my truck...after I've taken my guns out. Stupid probably....I figure I'm gonna have to kill somebody if that alarm goes off.
If you leave one in your vehicle make sure you don’t have an NRA sticker on your vehicle. I learned from a prosecutor that that’s how a gang he prosecuted admitted they acquired their firearms.
Yes, some places have a no weapons sign. I put it out of sight and lock the cab.
Morning Richard,
Makes sense for federal and government buildings, nuke plants, and etc. Any others, in Iowa, you can pretty much ignore. Iowa law specifically states that "No Guns" signs are not enforceable, except that if you are found to be carrying a gun, where the sign is posted, you can be asked to and required to leave the premises. And that's if you are found to be wearing a handgun. I can't imagine anyone ever finding out I have one unless I actually need to use it.
There are places that I cannot practically carry a handgun. I either lock the vehicle with the handgun locked in the fairly secure glove box, or use one of the cheap cable secured vaults. Always 2 layers of locks and protection.
I have secure attachment points for a cable in my spare tire well of the car, and behind the seat of the truck.
And I realize that there is no place truly secure in a vehicle. Or my home for that matter. I make it a point to be as hard to steal from as I can.
Kimber 1911 in the console of the work truck with an extra loaded mag. I’m in it 7 days a week, but yes it’s in there all the time whether I am or not. Usually with the keys in the ignition. Who the hell’s gonna steal a dirty 3500 dually diesel service truck? If I had a Honda accord maybe I’d think differently but don’t see that in my lifetime.
I once read that 400,000 vehicles are robbed for firearms per year. Gun guys know most firearms used in crimes are stolen. Do the math. I know four people including a cop who’s vehicles were broken into and robbed of firearms.
None had gun stickers or any of that jazz on their vehicle.
Yep, nothing you can do about stealing the whole car, but I use these and they seem to be good for securing a revolver for snakes and stuff, like Chinese weather balloons. Sure they can probably rip out the whole console given enough cover and time, but it's all about balance.
I once read that 400,000 vehicles are robbed for firearms per year. Gun guys know most firearms used in crimes are stolen. Do the math. I know four people including a cop who’s vehicles were broken into and robbed of firearms .
None had gun stickers or any of that jazz on their vehicle.
Ditto for two longtime friends of mine AND one of their brothers, all Texas Rednecks. One from a Honda Accord at night on the wrong side of town. One from a pickup in a driveway on the nice side of town overnight, one from a pickup in the parking lot of an upscale restaurant in broad daylight. No bumper stickers involved.
One stolen gun was a five-shot stainless S&W .44 Special, another was a heavily worked over .45ACP 1911. Both these losses hurt.
The only one recovered was a Springfield Armory single stack 9mm (XDM??), found by a homeowner on his suburban front lawn 25 miles away two days later.
"Anyone who discloses personal information on this (or any other) forum is a fool."
Almost as dumb as those who respond to "how much do you earn".
Simple ISP trace followed by home invasion.
Yeah, I see your point. I mean, it's not like a criminal can find the homes of wealthy people near their own locations just by looking at the homes themselves.
"Anyone who discloses personal information on this (or any other) forum is a fool."
Almost as dumb as those who respond to "how much do you earn".
Simple ISP trace followed by home invasion.
Yeah, I see your point. I mean, it's not like a criminal can find the homes of wealthy people near their own locations just by looking at the homes themselves.
And 90% of the people on the fire are using the ISP provided to them either by work or their cell phone provider....
I'm just saying the brodozer with a punisher sticker is SCREAMING "G19 in the glove box". Much like Affliction jeans, faux ostrich boots and a tap out shirt with white Oakley shades screams Douchebag.
LOLOLOL.
I've long maintained that white Oakleys were the fastest way to spot a douchebag playah.
I told that to a buddy of mine a few years ago and he looked for a moment like I spit in his coffee, then he laughed and told me that he sure put a lot of miles on his white Oakleys back in the day.
"Anyone who discloses personal information on this (or any other) forum is a fool."
Almost as dumb as those who respond to "how much do you earn".
Simple ISP trace followed by home invasion.
Yeah, I see your point. I mean, it's not like a criminal can find the homes of wealthy people near their own locations just by looking at the homes themselves.
And 90% of the people on the fire are using the ISP provided to them either by work or their cell phone provider....
You guys do realize you're quoting Larry Root, right?
I told that to a buddy of mine a few years ago and he looked for a moment like I spit in his coffee, then he laughed and told me that he sure put a lot of miles on his white Oakleys back in the day.
Kimber 1911 in the console of the work truck with an extra loaded mag. I’m in it 7 days a week, but yes it’s in there all the time whether I am or not. Usually with the keys in the ignition. Who the hell’s gonna steal a dirty 3500 dually diesel service truck? If I had a Honda accord maybe I’d think differently but don’t see that in my lifetime.
Try Aurora, CO. Everything gets gone. There are no good areas as such. 3rd time caught you get a misdemeanor. Kids try every door on the street, break windows, open mailboxes. Vigilantism is mentioned more and more. The signs are a suggestion, no penalty if you leave when asked. I never tempt fate at the postoffice. Metal detectors are a different story at hospital, court, etc.
If you ever find a way for a skinny old man to conceal a 1911, tell me. LCP mostly
Kimber 1911 in the console of the work truck with an extra loaded mag. I’m in it 7 days a week, but yes it’s in there all the time whether I am or not. Usually with the keys in the ignition. Who the hell’s gonna steal a dirty 3500 dually diesel service truck? If I had a Honda accord maybe I’d think differently but don’t see that in my lifetime.
Try Aurora, CO. Everything gets gone. There are no good areas as such. 3rd time caught you get a misdemeanor. Kids try every door on the street, break windows, open mailboxes. Vigilantism is mentioned more and more. The signs are a suggestion, no penalty if you leave when asked. I never tempt fate at the postoffice. Metal detectors are a different story at hospital, court, etc.
If you ever find a way for a skinny old man to conceal a 1911, tell me. LCP mostly
Who cares if the gun prints a little bit? Tell 'em it's a colostomy bag and ask if they wanna see it. Nobody will, and you'll have it if you need it.
I used to leave a Makarov in the glove box. Truck was broken into, in my yard, in the late '90s and it got gone. It was recovered two years ago. I sold it as soon as I got it back, bad Ju-Ju.
Another time I had just bought two boxes of .222 Rem Mag ammo at a gun show and forgot to take them in the house that night. Sure as sh*t, got broken into that night. Betcha Tyrique had a hard time getting them to chamber in his stolen ghetto blaster....
I told that to a buddy of mine a few years ago and he looked for a moment like I spit in his coffee, then he laughed and told me that he sure put a lot of miles on his white Oakleys back in the day.
No choice when you have to go into a no weapons building.
Yes you do, I carried 4 lbs of dog chain thru the magnetometer at the post office and didn't set it off. Do you really think they are scanning for you in iowa
I am always amazed that men will allow their self-defense... the preservation of their lives and the lives of those they claim to love... to random erratic whimsical decisions of politicians/rulers that they so allegedly despise.
I am always amazed that men will allow their self-defense... the preservation of their lives and the lives of those they claim to love... to random erratic whimsical decisions of politicians/rulers that they so allegedly despise.
Yep. Both of ours. Probably $100+ in change and small bills in mine too. Sitting in the driveway. Unlocked.
If it gets gone, I'll replace it.
My Dad has lived his life worried someone might steal something from him. He locks his car (absolutely nothing in it) in my driveway. If we want to put something in it for him we have to unlock it. He immediately re-locks it. Sad. Pisses me off. For years my truck sat there with the keys and a gun.
Wife does lock hers if she has store deposits in it. I do not like her bringing that home. It's significant, cash,and not ours.
Yep. Both of ours. Probably $100+ in change and small bills in mine too. Sitting in the driveway. Unlocked.
If it gets gone, I'll replace it.
My Dad has lived his life worried someone might steal something from him. He locks his car (absolutely nothing in it) in my driveway. If we want to put something in it for him we have to unlock it. He immediately re-locks it. Sad. Pisses me off. For years my truck sat there with the keys and a gun.
Wife does lock hers if she has store deposits in it. I do not like her bringing that home. It's significant, cash,and not ours.
Some kind of personal protest? Locking it just takes the push of a button. We’re rural and pretty safe but why lead someone into temptation?
Yep. Both of ours. Probably $100+ in change and small bills in mine too. Sitting in the driveway. Unlocked.
If it gets gone, I'll replace it.
My Dad has lived his life worried someone might steal something from him. He locks his car (absolutely nothing in it) in my driveway. If we want to put something in it for him we have to unlock it. He immediately re-locks it. Sad. Pisses me off. For years my truck sat there with the keys and a gun.
Wife does lock hers if she has store deposits in it. I do not like her bringing that home. It's significant, cash,and not ours.
Some kind of personal protest? Locking it just takes the push of a button. We’re rural and pretty safe but why lead someone into temptation?
I guess. PITA though. Passenger door doesn't lock automatically. Could fix it. If I locked it often. Only do if I have a long gun or Dillon(The Boxer) in there. Money, guns, are replaceable. Dillon isn't.
Yep. Both of ours. Probably $100+ in change and small bills in mine too. Sitting in the driveway. Unlocked.
If it gets gone, I'll replace it.
My Dad has lived his life worried someone might steal something from him. He locks his car (absolutely nothing in it) in my driveway. If we want to put something in it for him we have to unlock it. He immediately re-locks it. Sad. Pisses me off. For years my truck sat there with the keys and a gun.
Wife does lock hers if she has store deposits in it. I do not like her bringing that home. It's significant, cash,and not ours.
Some kind of personal protest? Locking it just takes the push of a button. We’re rural and pretty safe but why lead someone into temptation?
I guess. PITA though. Passenger door doesn't lock automatically. Could fix it. If I locked it often. Only do if I have a long gun or Dillon(The Boxer) in there. Money, guns, are replaceable. Dillon isn't.
Yea, I commented earlier that I wouldn’t care too much about the contents but would be devastated to lose a dog.
I am very careful, almost to the point of paranoia, about security while traveling on a hunt. Losing some of that stuff could ruin the trip, and THAT would be serious!
Yup leave one in the truck. Single bbl 12 ga sawed waaaay down, 00 buck. Tie wrapped to steering column muzzle up. wire from trigger to clutch pedal. keys over visor.
I keep a cheap but very reliable pistol in my truck 24-7. Even when I have on my carry, it's still there. I'm not worried about someone stealing it. It cost a couple of hundred bucks. I do have a safe in my console. It would take a pretty prepared thief to get in it but I can open it in two seconds.
"Anyone who discloses personal information on this (or any other) forum is a fool."
Almost as dumb as those who respond to "how much do you earn".
Simple ISP trace followed by home invasion.
Yeah, I see your point. I mean, it's not like a criminal can find the homes of wealthy people near their own locations just by looking at the homes themselves.
Yeah, lol
And I try not to leave any guns in a vehicle. More worried about tools than anything.
"Anyone who discloses personal information on this (or any other) forum is a fool."
Almost as dumb as those who respond to "how much do you earn".
Simple ISP trace followed by home invasion.
Yeah, I see your point. I mean, it's not like a criminal can find the homes of wealthy people near their own locations just by looking at the homes themselves.
Yeah, lol
And I try not to leave any guns in a vehicle. More worried about tools than anything.
I don't blame you. It takes a lot of praying to get a good ratchet set.
I leave guns in my truck all the time. I guess maybe because we basically have a non-existent crime rate around here. I do cover them up with my Carharts, when I go into town.
This time of year, my tang safety 22-250 is in my truck.
Locking or not locking a vehicle has little effect on a real thief gaining access.
Living in Wyoming has advantages beyond the good hunting.
Spend any time in a city and you'll soon see a subject(s) trying the doors on vehicles. Doesn't take long at all until they find an unlocked one.
In Washington State, a citizen is not allowed to take a firearm (even licensed) into a bar or tavern unless it has a restaurant portion. Plenty of iron out in the parking lot.
The pistol was stolen from a locked car and and was the gun issued to a Department of Interior Bureau of Land Management Agent. He could not bring it into some building on San Francisco and thus locked it in the car from where it was stolen. Several days later it allegedly went off by itself when the illegal in possession of it (he said he found it under a park bench) was "twirling" the pistol on his index finger when if fell and went off several times, striking Kate Steinle at least once and thus killing her.
So the State of California passed a law the next year making it a misdemeanor (and firing offense for anyone in law enforcement) to having a gun stolen from them by leaving the gun in locked vehicle unless it was in a locked case secured to a part of the vehicle. So now it is a crime to be a victim. But tell that to Kate Steinle's father.
So I would not leave a firearm in a vehicle.
There is a little more to that story than that hero. And if fuggers were hung for stealing then it is a non issue... or at worst a quick resoloution. Or even maybe the same for allowing illegal aliens in the country. What an idea upholding laws that were not tainted by bullsheet attorneys not sticking up for the death of sovereign rights as a US citizen. Man what a difference that would make.
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