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Posted By: DMc Modern Art - 11/02/23
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Reminder that modern art was a CIA psyop.

Former CIA officials came clean on this during the '90s, confirming that the agency used abstract art by Jackson Pollock, Willem de Kooning and others to promote American culture during the Cold War.

The intent was to portray America as a bastion of intellectual and creative freedom. This was to rebut Soviet assertions that the U.S. was "culturally barren", and to contrast the cultural confinement of the Soviet empire, where artists had been restricted to painting Soviet realism since the 1930s.

Abstract Expressionism was seen as the most free and extreme form of artistic expression - the antithesis of Soviet rigidity. Modern art therefore became a weapon in the cultural war against communism.

Beginning in the 1950s, the CIA secretly funded a group called the Congress for Cultural Freedom, through which it funnelled money to international art shows, literary magazines and operated dozens of offices around the globe - all with the explicit goal of promoting American Abstract Expressionism.

These efforts, coined operation "long leash", were meant to demonstrate to disaffected Soviets and European intellectuals that American painters were free to invent, and offend; unlike under tyranny, where "artists are made the slaves and tools of the state", as Eisenhower once said.

Paradoxically, at the time the works of Pollock and de Kooning were not even broadly popular with the American public, and earlier, more open attempts to promote new American art by the State Department had been widely mocked. Even President Truman famously said, 'If that's art, I'm a Hottentot'', when visiting an exhibit purchased by the DOS.

Because of this, and because it would have been impossible to attain support for such a project through Congress, the CIA's covert operation was necessary to push Abstract Expressionism in secret.

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Posted By: Morewood Re: Modern Art - 11/02/23
Explain Dali please.
Posted By: P_Weed Re: Modern Art - 11/02/23
I saw the movie... 'Hello Dali'.
Posted By: Timbermaster Re: Modern Art - 11/02/23
Dali’s dreamlike surrealism is fantastically bizarre. Pollock’s work is boring and uninspiring to my eye. Makes sense now.
Posted By: Ben_Lurkin Re: Modern Art - 11/02/23
If I can do it, it’s not art. I can do that. If Hunter does it, Google buys that garbage and pays Hunter six figures as a thinly veiled payoff.
Posted By: gonehuntin Re: Modern Art - 11/02/23
Originally Posted by DMc
abstract art by Jackson Pollock, Willem de Kooning and others

Fucking no-talent grifters. Anybody who pays one penny for any version of their "art" is a SUCKER.
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Modern Art - 11/02/23
Originally Posted by Ben_Lurkin
If I can do it, it’s not art. I can do that. If Hunter does it, Google buys that garbage and pays Hunter six figures as a thinly veiled payoff.




Yeah, I can dribble paint everywhere. Often create fantastic messes.


Art is not my thing at all, modern art is the butt of jokes in all kind of entertainment.
Not sure I've ever seen it addressed seriously. However, I've never entered an art circle, or museum.





I never realized Roger did art, beyond one awesome tile jobs.
Or that his work was worth hundred$ of thou$and$.
Posted By: BCBH Re: Modern Art - 11/02/23
Not surprised. Modern "art" is garbage.
Are you guys familiar with Laurel Canyon and the CIA involvement with music in the 60s. That ties in nicely with this thread.

Posted By: dan_oz Re: Modern Art - 11/02/23
One thing I'll say about Pollock's work: if you only ever see prints, or photographs, or see it on video, it is easy to dismiss it. I shared that view myself: Jack the Dripper.

If you actually go to see his works in person though you do gain a different appreciation of them. Of course, opinions may vary, but before writing him off you should try it.
Posted By: Stickfight Re: Modern Art - 11/02/23
Originally Posted by dan_oz
If you actually go to see his works in person though you do gain a different appreciation of them.

I’ve seen a couple in person and they looked like degenerate garbage.

I’ve also had an art person try to “explain” his style to me and that struck me as retroactively devised woo woo to pass it all off as the product of some deep intellectual process.
Posted By: CashisKing Re: Modern Art - 11/02/23
Originally Posted by Morewood
Explain Dali please.

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*I happen to like Dali, Larson and Gaudí

Dang shame how Gaudí died
Posted By: Steve Re: Modern Art - 11/02/23
I'm not one for modern art but I like Pollock. Not sure why.
Posted By: DMc Re: Modern Art - 11/02/23
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Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Modern Art - 11/02/23
Not very cultured.

Can appreciate good photos.
Paintings that look like real life.


Maybe I'm too dumb to interpret a painting,
maybe needing to interpret a painting is BS?



Few things are as beautiful as the Master's paintings I see every
morning going to work. Late spring to late summer.
Posted By: 257_X_50 Re: Modern Art - 11/02/23
Jackson’s girl friend was a Gugegenhiem……….people bought them to be kool
He was not impressed
He used oil and latex or whatever he had
Many are falling apart today because of that.

He was not impressed with the social set. Walked out of a room at a party nude and pizzed in the fireplace

“See…….they don’t care”. Or something like that
Posted By: Salmonella Re: Modern Art - 11/02/23
My used toilet paper looks better than modern art.
Posted By: P_Weed Re: Modern Art - 11/03/23
Sexually, Salvador Dali had a floppy clock.
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: Modern Art - 11/03/23
Originally Posted by DMc
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That would look good on a rifle stock.
Posted By: Tyrone Re: Modern Art - 11/03/23
Originally Posted by DMc
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Culture Critic@Culture_Crit

Reminder that modern art was a CIA psyop.

Former CIA officials came clean on this during the '90s, confirming that the agency used abstract art by Jackson Pollock, Willem de Kooning and others to promote American culture during the Cold War.

The intent was to portray America as a bastion of intellectual and creative freedom. This was to rebut Soviet assertions that the U.S. was "culturally barren", and to contrast the cultural confinement of the Soviet empire, where artists had been restricted to painting Soviet realism since the 1930s.

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Here I always thought that Modern Art was the Marxist deconstruction of real art.
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