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Posted By: Redneck MN folks..... - 01/01/24
I just heard that MN has a new law: "Universal background checks". How will the state actually try to enforce such BS?? Compliance? HAH! Look how 'registration' compliance in IL is turning out..

Gov't = MORONS..
Posted By: MAC Re: MN folks..... - 01/01/24
Steve lives in MN. He will be along any minute complaining about how we do things in TX rather then spend any effort trying to fix his own cesspool.
Posted By: akrange Re: MN folks..... - 01/01/24
MN like MI like Massinsanity like Dumpsterware is Unfixable ..

Soon Pard TX is going to be Unfixable .

Those Confused Stockholm Syndrome Locust are going to be in Control Soon..

They rename TX to Austin

Austin even sound Gay ..
Posted By: 45_100 Re: MN folks..... - 01/01/24
More and more democrap controlled states are passing laws like this. Illinois, California and Minnesota are three that come to mind. I have been somewhat following the compliance in Illinois and as of last night it was between .5% and 5.5% depending on how it was calculated. We all ask what we can do. Well maybe non-compliance with these unconstitutional laws is a place to start. Some sheriffs will refuse to enforce these laws. I am not confident our sheriff will refuse.
Posted By: Knarley_Bob Re: MN folks..... - 01/01/24
The thing is, in Minnesota it's just the big cities that are blue. (Citiots)
The rest of the state is red.
When the metro areas implode, we'll be good to go........I hope.

KB
Posted By: JOG Re: MN folks..... - 01/01/24
Originally Posted by Redneck
I just heard that MN has a new law: "Universal background checks". How will the state actually try to enforce such BS?? Compliance? HAH! Look how 'registration' compliance in IL is turning out..

Gov't = MORONS..

It's a dumb law, as are all such laws, but functionally not a lot different than Wisconsin and not even close to Illinois.

You should probably brush up.
Posted By: Kenneth Re: MN folks..... - 01/01/24
Figured Lee started a Packers/Vikings thread…..morning after……..

My bad.
Posted By: steve4102 Re: MN folks..... - 01/01/24
Originally Posted by Knarley_Bob
The thing is, in Minnesota it's just the big cities that are blue. (Citiots)
The rest of the state is red.
When the metro areas implode, we'll be good to go........I hope.

KB
Not exactly, although you are correct that The Cities and their inhabitants referred to as Citiots control much of the Blue legislation shoved down our throats, but not all.

The Arrowhead Region is made up of St. Louis, Lake and Cook Counties. These counties are Bluer than even the Cities. Why you ask, why is NE MN the only Blue area of the State except for the Cities.

Answer, UNIONS. These dumb fuqkers have been brain washed by their Union to vote Democrat and only Democrat for generations. There is no fixing this. If a Democrat campaigned on shutting down all Mining and logging in MN these dumb fuqks would still vote for him/her. Oh, a few may pull their head out of their ass just far enough to see, but their solution would be to just not vote.
Posted By: steve4102 Re: MN folks..... - 01/01/24
If you really want to know, you can watch the video, or read the text.



Text here.

https://gunowners.mn/learn/minnesota-laws/ubcs/

Oh, and you MN boys, don’t forget to donate to The MN Gun Owners Caucus
Posted By: JOG Re: MN folks..... - 01/01/24
Originally Posted by steve4102
If you really want to know, you can watch the video, or read the text.

Don't watch the video - plenty of errors in it. The guy must be trying to drum up funds.

The text is correct.
Posted By: Knarley_Bob Re: MN folks..... - 01/01/24
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Figured Lee started a Packers/Vikings thread…..morning after……..

My bad.



YEAH, how 'bout dem QUEENS??? Moved to MN in third grade, been disappointed in football ever since........Oh Lord the pain!!

Too many people think it can't happen here. Been on the board of a couple clubs. Can we say, "Bang your head on a wall"?
Just glad, at my age, by the time it gets here, I'll most likely be gone. Which don't give much time, does it?


KB
Posted By: Redneck Re: MN folks..... - 01/01/24
Originally Posted by JOG
Originally Posted by Redneck
I just heard that MN has a new law: "Universal background checks". How will the state actually try to enforce such BS?? Compliance? HAH! Look how 'registration' compliance in IL is turning out..

Gov't = MORONS..

It's a dumb law, as are all such laws, but functionally not a lot different than Wisconsin and not even close to Illinois.

You should probably brush up.
As should you. We do NOT have universal background check laws here, nor do we have 'red-flag' laws either which MN now has as of today. Try to keep up...
Posted By: steve4102 Re: MN folks..... - 01/01/24
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by JOG
Originally Posted by Redneck
I just heard that MN has a new law: "Universal background checks". How will the state actually try to enforce such BS?? Compliance? HAH! Look how 'registration' compliance in IL is turning out..

Gov't = MORONS..

It's a dumb law, as are all such laws, but functionally not a lot different than Wisconsin and not even close to Illinois.

You should probably brush up.
As should you. We do NOT have universal background check laws here, nor do we have 'red-flag' laws either which MN now has as of today. Try to keep up...

We should all keep up with not only our own States, but others as well. These evil bastards are all around us.

As for the MN Law, in a nut shell it only applies to Pistols and "assault" rifles only, for now.
Posted By: Angus1895 Re: MN folks..... - 01/01/24
Boy Howdy dem queens R bad!

Either the packers offensive line got better, queens DL was hurt, queens defensive backfield ate magic mushroom cheeseburgers pre game.
Or all the above.

While n Minnesota this Summer

I seen a “ Pay Us Money “ to save the wolf. Commercial on TV.

They claimed wolves keep cervidae outta riparian areas.

(Like chasing them to their death is not harder on the earth.)

I hear ya on the arrowhead region.
I had clients there told me…
“ U from the west have no idea how live wt da wolf.”

A few years later they bought chickens 🐔.

A red fox ate a chicken 🍗

They shot that fox.

Weirdly it was Ronald Reagan that introduced Hubert Humphrey to the Democratic Party.
Posted By: JOG Re: MN folks..... - 01/01/24
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by JOG
Originally Posted by Redneck
I just heard that MN has a new law: "Universal background checks". How will the state actually try to enforce such BS?? Compliance? HAH! Look how 'registration' compliance in IL is turning out..

Gov't = MORONS..

It's a dumb law, as are all such laws, but functionally not a lot different than Wisconsin and not even close to Illinois.

You should probably brush up.
As should you. We do NOT have universal background check laws here, nor do we have 'red-flag' laws either which MN now has as of today. Try to keep up...

To privately sell a handgun or 'assault rifle' in Wisconsin the buyer has to present a permit to acquire or a carry permit to the seller. The background check is inferred. The same is now true in Minnesota, the difference being the seller has to keep a record of the transaction and a copy of the permit. Neither state requires an additional background check. This went into effect on four months ago, so not all that new.

In Minnesota a permit to acquire is good for a year, a carry permit lasts for 5 years.

You are now caught up.
Posted By: chlinstructor Re: MN folks..... - 01/01/24
Originally Posted by MAC
Steve lives in MN. He will be along any minute complaining about how we do things in TX rather then spend any effort trying to fix his own cesspool.

LMAO!!!
Posted By: jaguartx Re: MN folks..... - 01/01/24
Originally Posted by Redneck
I just heard that MN has a new law: "Universal background checks". How will the state actually try to enforce such BS?? Compliance? HAH! Look how 'registration' compliance in IL is turning out..

Gov't = DEEP STATE CABAL.
FIXT
Posted By: StGeorger Re: MN folks..... - 01/02/24
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Knarley_Bob
The thing is, in Minnesota it's just the big cities that are blue. (Citiots)
The rest of the state is red.
When the metro areas implode, we'll be good to go........I hope.

KB
Not exactly, although you are correct that The Cities and their inhabitants referred to as Citiots control much of the Blue legislation shoved down our throats, but not all.

The Arrowhead Region is made up of St. Louis, Lake and Cook Counties. These counties are Bluer than even the Cities. Why you ask, why is NE MN the only Blue area of the State except for the Cities.

Answer, UNIONS. These dumb fuqkers have been brain washed by their Union to vote Democrat and only Democrat for generations. There is no fixing this. If a Democrat campaigned on shutting down all Mining and logging in MN these dumb fuqks would still vote for him/her. Oh, a few may pull their head out of their ass just far enough to see, but their solution would be to just not vote.

This is absolutely true. Have family there.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: MN folks..... - 01/02/24
I like Minnesota
Posted By: Mr_TooDogs Re: MN folks..... - 01/02/24
Originally Posted by JOG
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by JOG
Originally Posted by Redneck
I just heard that MN has a new law: "Universal background checks". How will the state actually try to enforce such BS?? Compliance? HAH! Look how 'registration' compliance in IL is turning out..

Gov't = MORONS..

It's a dumb law, as are all such laws, but functionally not a lot different than Wisconsin and not even close to Illinois.

You should probably brush up.
As should you. We do NOT have universal background check laws here, nor do we have 'red-flag' laws either which MN now has as of today. Try to keep up...

To privately sell a handgun or 'assault rifle' in Wisconsin the buyer has to present a permit to acquire or a carry permit to the seller. The background check is inferred. The same is now true in Minnesota, the difference being the seller has to keep a record of the transaction and a copy of the permit. Neither state requires an additional background check. This went into effect on four months ago, so not all that new.

In Minnesota a permit to acquire is good for a year, a carry permit lasts for 5 years.

You are now caught up.

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To privately sell a handgun or 'assault rifle' in Wisconsin the buyer has to present a permit to acquire or a carry permit to the seller.

JOG, can you cite where you got this from?
Posted By: 160user Re: MN folks..... - 01/02/24
Originally Posted by JOG
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by JOG
Originally Posted by Redneck
I just heard that MN has a new law: "Universal background checks". How will the state actually try to enforce such BS?? Compliance? HAH! Look how 'registration' compliance in IL is turning out..

Gov't = MORONS..

It's a dumb law, as are all such laws, but functionally not a lot different than Wisconsin and not even close to Illinois.

You should probably brush up.
As should you. We do NOT have universal background check laws here, nor do we have 'red-flag' laws either which MN now has as of today. Try to keep up...

To privately sell a handgun or 'assault rifle' in Wisconsin the buyer has to present a permit to acquire or a carry permit to the seller. The background check is inferred. The same is now true in Minnesota, the difference being the seller has to keep a record of the transaction and a copy of the permit. Neither state requires an additional background check. This went into effect on four months ago, so not all that new.

In Minnesota a permit to acquire is good for a year, a carry permit lasts for 5 years.

You are now caught up.

I believe this is all correct except I believe both the buyer and seller need to retain the "form" that is filled out along with a copy of DL and handgun permit for 7 years.

To sell a Remington 870 at a garage sale, no paperwork or "background check" is required...........yet.
Posted By: JOG Re: MN folks..... - 01/02/24
Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs
Originally Posted by JOG
To privately sell a handgun or 'assault rifle' in Wisconsin the buyer has to present a permit to acquire or a carry permit to the seller.

JOG, can you cite where you got this from?

While this lines up with what I think I know, I'm not a Wisconsin resident so I have never tested their rules.

Item #3 from here: The Gun Zone

3. Can I sell a firearm to someone who does not have a firearms purchaser identification card or handgun purchase permit?

No, the buyer must have a valid state-issued firearms purchaser identification card or a handgun purchase permit.
Posted By: Mr_TooDogs Re: MN folks..... - 01/02/24
Originally Posted by JOG
Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs
Originally Posted by JOG
To privately sell a handgun or 'assault rifle' in Wisconsin the buyer has to present a permit to acquire or a carry permit to the seller.

JOG, can you cite where you got this from?

While this lines up with what I think I know, I'm not a Wisconsin resident so I have never tested their rules.

Item #3 from here: The Gun Zone

3. Can I sell a firearm to someone who does not have a firearms purchaser identification card or handgun purchase permit?

No, the buyer must have a valid state-issued firearms purchaser identification card or a handgun purchase permit.

Thanks. Wisconsin does not have a firearms purchaser ID card. Or a handgun purchase permit. Private transfers between adults assuming the persons are not prohibited by Wisconsin or Federal law are legal, no background check or other conditions apply.

I quote text from a Wisconsin.gov document from the link I provide below.

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BACKGROUND CHECK REQUIREMENTS
A background check is required under two circumstances: (1) to purchase a firearm from an
FFL; and (2) to apply for a license to carry a concealed weapon in Wisconsin (CCW). The
purpose of a background check is to determine whether a person is ineligible to possess a
firearm for any of the reasons described above.
Federal law requires that a background check be conducted when a person purchases a firearm
through an FFL, and prohibits an FFL from selling or delivering a firearm to a person who the
FFL has reasonable cause to believe is ineligible to possess a firearm because of age, or is
ineligible to possess or purchase a firearm under state law. [18 U.S.C. s. 922 (b) (1) and (2).]
State law similarly prohibits an FFL from transferring possession of a handgun until a successful
background check has been completed. [18 U.S.C. s. 922 (t) and s. 175.35 (2), Stats.]
A person must become licensed as an FFL if he or she devotes time, attention, and labor to
dealing in firearms as a regular course of trade or business to predominantly earn a profit
through the repetitive purchase and resale of firearms. “To predominantly earn a profit” means
that the intent underlying a sale is predominantly one of pecuniary gain, rather than improving
or liquidating a personal collection. A person who makes only occasional sales, exchanges, or
purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby is exempt
from the federal licensing requirement. [18 U.S.C. s. 921 (a) (21) (C) and (22).]
Background check procedures for purchasing a firearm vary depending on whether the firearm
purchased is a handgun or long gun. Background checks for transfers of handguns are
conducted through the state Department of Justice (DOJ) Handgun Hotline. Background checks
for transfers of long guns are conducted through the National Instant Criminal Background
Check System in the Federal Bureau of Investigation (commonly referred to as “NICS”). DOJ’s
Handgun Hotline conducts the background check that is required for a CCW license. In general,
background checks are completed immediately, unless the purchaser is under 21 years of age.
[See 28 C.F.R. s. 25.6 (g), s. Jus 10.06 (2), Wis. Adm. Code, and 34 U.S.C. s. 40901 (l).]

A background check is not required under state or federal law for sales or transfers from sellers
who are not FFLs, including sales or transfers between persons who are not FFLs at an event
that is organized for the purposes of buying and selling firearms, e.g., a “gun show.” As noted
above, however, an FFL must comply with the state and federal background check requirements
regardless of where the sale takes place.


OTHER RESTRICTIONS RELATED TO FIREARM TRANSFERS
Both federal and state law criminalize various acts related to providing false information when
purchasing a firearm or transferring a firearm to a person who is prohibited from possessing a
firearm. Acquiring a firearm for a person who is prohibited from possessing a firearm is
commonly referred to as “straw purchasing.”

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/misc/lc/information_memos/2022/im_2022_04
Posted By: Hypocrite Re: MN folks..... - 01/02/24
Definitely isn’t any sort of gun buyer permit in Wisconsin.

Private sales require nothing more than a reasonable belief the person is legal to own a gun. It’s on the buyer to know if they can own a gun. Right in line with the federal straw purchase laws.

Our democrats aren’t competent enough to write new ways to infringe on our rights.
Posted By: 260madman Re: MN folks..... - 01/02/24
JOG is so far off it’s not funny.
Posted By: JOG Re: MN folks..... - 01/02/24
Originally Posted by 260madman
JOG is so far off it’s not funny.

The only information I cited that is wrong: To privately sell a handgun or 'assault rifle' in Wisconsin the buyer has to present a permit to acquire or a carry permit to the seller. Mr. TooDogs asked for the source which I provided.

The information I provided about Minnesota law is correct.
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