3 homes burn, igniting cache of ammunition in Southern California city; remains of 2 people found among ashes
Three homes were destroyed and the remains of a woman and one other individual were found after an early-morning fire in Sylmar, California, that set off ammunition as firefighters struggled to extinguish the blaze.
Los Angeles firefighters responded to the scene in the 13700 block of Glenoaks Boulevard about 4:30 a.m. Sunday and found multiple structures ablaze, authorities said.
The remains of a woman and another person, whose gender has not yet been confirmed, as well as a dog were found inside one of the homes on the property.
Firefighters’ efforts to knock down the fire were hampered by the presence of ammunition in one of the homes, according to L.A. Fire Department Capt. Erik Scott. The blaze’s heat then set off the ammunition, leaving the impression that a gun was being fired, he said.
Once the fire was under control, firefighters found the human remains as well as multiple guns in one of the three houses on the property.
“I saw at least two, what appeared to be, automatic weapons — a rifle, ammunition lined up,” Scott told KTLA-TV. “That obviously concerns us — why is that out?”
The cause of the fire has not been determined.
Authorities have not yet released any information about the identity of the deceased people. Dogs were used to search for human remains, and Los Angeles police were assisting in the investigation.
Calling BS on this. It was probably a gas leak and they're likely blaming it on ammo to further their agenda of disarming US citizens just because the ammo was also present.
Calling BS on this. It was probably a gas leak and they're likely blaming it on ammo to further their agenda of disarming US citizens just because the ammo was also present.
^^^This^^^
Never trust the Commie Socialist Fake News Media Liars.
Been to many of fires with ammo. It generally cooks off. Has never stopped us from an offensive fire attack.
Bingo.
The problem is that most people reading that don't understand that, including gun guys. I usually show them this film and they seem to understand after that.
A powder cache might "blow" or no telling what else, but how does an ammo cache ????
Ask the OP, he's the one who added that language. It wasn't in the story.
It's the Headline of the story dumb chit.
If you had bothered to click on the link, you would know that.
LOL, I did read it Karen, the headline of the story is just what's stated in the body of your post and the word "blows" is nowhere to be found in the headline---you added the word "blows" in your thread title numbnuts.
The headline says the ammo "ignited" you fùcking dumbass. Just like everything else in a house that burns to the ground.
So what's your angle here, why have you sensationalized a house fire where some small arms ammo ignited and cooked off? You sound like some yammering old woman who knows jack shìt about firearms.
And WTF is a "cache" of ammo anyway? A brick of .22 LR? "OMG that's 500 rounds, why do you need all that?"
Which one of us here doesn't have a "cache" of ammo? That's an emotionally charged word used by pearl-clutching Karens and you took it and ran with it.
If you have not learned by now, "supfoo" is a leftist sock puppet troll. His stock in trade is exaggeration, hyperbole, fabrication, and obfuscation.
Don't hang around this poo hole site often enough to get that part. Its one of the reasons I suppose.
Btw I think it was you that mentioned vehicle prices going down. We bought way before we had planned and even though our market area is high, it saved some cash for sure I'm certain. Thanks
Calling BS on this. It was probably a gas leak and they're likely blaming it on ammo to further their agenda of disarming US citizens just because the ammo was also present.
The writer goes overboard in making a point that guns and ammo were there and some ammo cooked off, but it says nothing about ammo or powder being the cause:
Calling BS on this. It was probably a gas leak and they're likely blaming it on ammo to further their agenda of disarming US citizens just because the ammo was also present.
The writer goes overboard in making a point that guns and ammo were there and some ammo cooked off, but it says nothing about ammo or powder being the cause:
from the article:
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The cause of the fire has not been determined.
And the cause of the explosion? Which may be totally different than the cause of the fire...
A powder cache might "blow" or no telling what else, but how does an ammo cache ????
NO, smokeless powder will burn, not "BLOW".
Kindly notice the lack of the word "smokeless" in my comment. That's the stuff on the the shelf in the basement directly under my bedroom. Ain't skeered.
I've only been around Tannerite once and that was on a Utah vacation. As I remember the stuff is a 2 part dry mix. Without mixing it, it won't do anything. Once mixed I remember it was still a little hard to set off. A Lee in 303 wouldn't set it off at 100 yards, we had to use my 204 to ignite it.
When it exploded, it only tore the poster in half.
Many years ago, as kids we would toss .22RF cartridges into burning piles of leaves we had raked-up. Every one exploded. Actually lifting the leaf piles up. Sounded like fire crackers.
So all you internet experts, next time you have a camp fire burning, throw some .22RF cartridges into it. See what happens. Hell, throw some 5.56 or 7.62 cartridges into the fire. See what happens. And keep sitting next to the burning fire. You don't get to run away. I dare you. Hell, I double dare you. You will find out "ignite" and "cook-off" are euphemisms for "explode".
Many years ago, as kids we would toss .22RF cartridges into burning piles of leaves we had raked-up. Every one exploded. Actually lifting the leaf piles up. Sounded like fire crackers.
So all you internet experts, next time you have a camp fire burning, throw some .22RF cartridges into it. See what happens. Hell, throw some 5.56 or 7.62 cartridges into the fire. See what happens. And keep sitting next to the burning fire. You don't get to run away. I dare you. Hell, I double dare you. You will find out "ignite" and "cook-off" are euphemisms for "explode".
Watch the SAAMI video, popping off is far from an "explosion".
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Originally Posted by Nebraska
Originally Posted by Chrome
Been to many of fires with ammo. It generally cooks off. Has never stopped us from an offensive fire attack.
Bingo.
The problem is that most people reading that don't understand that, including gun guys. I usually show them this film and they seem to understand after that.
Calling BS on this. It was probably a gas leak and they're likely blaming it on ammo to further their agenda of disarming US citizens just because the ammo was also present.
[quote=SupFoo] Watch the SAAMI video, popping off is far from an "explosion".
Fug the video, why don't you try it, like I did. Toss the stuff into "Your" deer camp fire. See what happens. You won't run away, will you?
No need, grew up in the woods, thousands of campfires, many a 22 and shotshells tossed in the fire, make for pretty colors and a cool sound, no damage to humans or the fire.
A large stash of primers contained in a steel ammo can might let off a small boom but doubt it would be very large or enough even to blow out a window, because by the time they would go off the windows would be long gone by then.
Many years ago, as kids we would toss .22RF cartridges into burning piles of leaves we had raked-up. Every one exploded. Actually lifting the leaf piles up. Sounded like fire crackers.
So all you internet experts, next time you have a camp fire burning, throw some .22RF cartridges into it. See what happens. Hell, throw some 5.56 or 7.62 cartridges into the fire. See what happens. And keep sitting next to the burning fire. You don't get to run away. I dare you. Hell, I double dare you. You will find out "ignite" and "cook-off" are euphemisms for "explode".
How many house fires have you fought? Fire training? Haz Mat? I thought so. 2024 is the same as 2023 so far.
A powder cache might "blow" or no telling what else, but how does an ammo cache ????
Ask the OP, he's the one who added that language. It wasn't in the story.
It's the Headline of the story dumb chit.
If you had bothered to click on the link, you would know that.
Or if he had bothered with looking at your previous posts, he'd know your posts are information dumps and that you are incapable of generating content on your own.
[quote=SupFoo]3 homes burn, igniting cache of ammunition in Southern California city; remains of 2 people found among ashes
“I saw at least two, what appeared to be, automatic weapons — a rifle, ammunition lined up,” Scott told KTLA-TV. “That obviously concerns us — why is that out?”
Interesting line there. “What appeared to be automatic weapons”. Must have been some of those evil looking black rifles.
No need, grew up in the woods, thousands of campfires, many a 22 and shotshells tossed in the fire, make for pretty colors and a cool sound, no damage to humans or the fire.
Liar. You've done no such thing.
And you "grew up in the woods"? So now you're Tarzan?
No need, I grew up in the woods, thousands of campfires, many a 22 and shotshells tossed in the fire, make for pretty colors and a cool sound, no damage to humans or the fire.
Liar. You've done no such thing.
And you "grew up in the woods"? So now you're Tarzan?
Didn’t say I lived in the woods, I grew up being in the woods.
Watch the SAAMI video, popping off is far from an "explosion".
Fug the video, why don't you try it, like I did. Toss the stuff into "Your" deer camp fire. See what happens. You won't run away, will you?
Why would you run away? Nothing happens. Bit of a pop as the case splits. Bullet lays there. powder burns off the rest of the way. No big deal.
Every now and then, you'll hear something zing away from the fire when it pops. At least I have in my previous experiences.
yes, a frag of a brass case or such. But nothing that would bother me. Fires pop out embers and pieces of wood etc now and then too. Nothing that is worth my worrying about. The bullet is to heavy to move. I
From my PERSONAL experience, this picture was our bedroom and just inside the window was a night stand with a loaded 1911, two plastic. Containers full of ammo two boxes of buckshot for the posed shotgun u der the bed. Just below this room in the basement was over 200# of powder several cases of duck shells, 20000+ 22 lr and numerous high power rifle loads nothing exploded. I warned firefighters when they arrived, heard some pop off but no explosion no billets flying around
Here is the garage where fire hit my snowmobiles with some high octane fuel in them, mush more of explosive type but not a movie style blowup End of discussion
Calling BS on this. It was probably a gas leak and they're likely blaming it on ammo to further their agenda of disarming US citizens just because the ammo was also present.
^^^This^^^
Never trust the Commie Socialist Fake News Media Liars.
More n likely the primer would pop out of pocket before the bullet would - less weight. If the gases are contained, like in a barrel with a projectile in the way, then those gases are going to find the way out with the least amount of resistance. Sort of how the whole thing works - even with air rifles. Those gases aren’t contained with cartridges that are just laying around.
Preaching to the choir I’m sure, but anyone on this site should know that.
Didn't Mythbusters prove that loaded cartridges don't blow up in a fire?? They just fizzle since they're not contained in a chamber.
Yes, NRA also published a training video for firemen dealing with ammo. Regular turnout gear and standard eye protection was all that was needed for safety precautions.
Now being contained in an ammo can or something else that will let pressure build could be a different story.
A powder cache might "blow" or no telling what else, but how does an ammo cache ????
Ask the OP, he's the one who added that language. It wasn't in the story.
It's the Headline of the story dumb chit.
If you had bothered to click on the link, you would know that.
Or if he had bothered with looking at your previous posts, he'd know your posts are information dumps and that you are incapable of generating content on your own.
Holy schit automatic guns in California, Terrorist tell you. Had a fire in one of my sheds with 20 cases of traps load in it, took the fire company 35 mins to get there, i stood out with my garden hose putting the fire out, fire personal seen the ammo and ran like a sissy girl, i had the fire out already, just burnt boxes
A large stash of primers contained in a steel ammo can might let off a small boom but doubt it would be very large or enough even to blow out a window, because by the time they would go off the windows would be long gone by then.
Seen firefighters run from a house fire when a 100 gallon propane tank released it pressure, left the hoses there on, my dad grabbed it an hosed the tank down, they were all yelling its going to blow, dumbschits
Seen firefighters run from a house fire when a 100 gallon propane tank released it pressure, left the hoses there on, my dad grabbed it an hosed the tank down, they were all yelling its going to blow, dumbschits
😛 We had a big a$$ industrial dust collector in our grinding room to pull off vapors and metal dust off of all our grinders. One day I was running a jig grinder, sparks were a flying. All of a sudden someone yells out that the duct work on the ceiling was on fire. Sure enough, you could see the paint on the 6" duct flaking off from the fire inside. Our job leader, a part time fire chief for a local municipality runs over and shuts the dust collector down. That didn't have any effect on the fire. My leader looks at me like WTF are we gonna do. I told him to go find me some co2 fire extinguishers, he comes back right quick with a half dozen co2 extinguishers. I tell people garb one and head for a machine with a dust collector pick-up tube. Told them on my command the leader will fire up the dust collector and when you hear it spin up dump the whole contents of your bottle of co2 into the system. It worked like a champ and put the fire out. Job leader looks at me and says something to the effect "you learn something new every day"... 😁
3 houses caught on fire and burned. Nothing said about houses blowing up. Found some dead burned people.
Found an ammo dump. Dayom. Half the Fire guys have "Ammo" ergo Ammo Dump". Very dangerous to Far Fiters.
Dang. We need gun and ammo owners to have their schiett locked up in safe storage buildings. The popo will let you have your schiett when you want to go shooting or hunting.
Seen firefighters run from a house fire when a 100 gallon propane tank released it pressure, left the hoses there on, my dad grabbed it an hosed the tank down, they were all yelling its going to blow, dumbschits
😛 We had a big a$$ industrial dust collector in our grinding room to pull off vapors and metal dust off of all our grinders. One day I was running a jig grinder, sparks were a flying. All of a sudden someone yells out that the duct work on the ceiling was on fire. Sure enough, you could see the paint on the 6" duct flaking off from the fire inside. Our job leader, a part time fire chief for a local municipality runs over and shuts the dust collector down. That didn't have any effect on the fire. My leader looks at me like WTF are we gonna do. I told him to go find me some co2 fire extinguishers, he comes back right quick with a half dozen co2 extinguishers. I tell people garb one and head for a machine with a dust collector pick-up tube. Told them on my command the leader will fire up the dust collector and when you hear it spin up dump the whole contents of your bottle of co2 into the system. It worked like a champ and put the fire out. Job leader looks at me and says something to the effect "you learn something new every day"... 😁
"Improvise and overcome." Sounds like you engineered your own fire suppression system on the spot, well done.
Calling BS on this. It was probably a gas leak and they're likely blaming it on ammo to further their agenda of disarming US citizens just because the ammo was also present.
Calling BS on this. It was probably a gas leak and they're likely blaming it on ammo to further their agenda of disarming US citizens just because the ammo was also present.
Agreed.....
Who is blaming it on ammo? Not the original article.
I used to toss 38 special and .22 into a wood stove in the tractor shop.
When I was 16, my Dodge Powerwagon caught on fire overnight. Crappy chrysler wiring. Heard the horn blowing, went to check it out. Smoke boiling out of the cab. My Remington Speedmaster 552 was in there. Dash was melting. Couple boxes of .22 Thunderbolts in the glove box popping and cooking off in my immediate personal space (my face) Had to break ice in the horse troughs to get water to douse the flames. In the morning in daylight. The floorpans were littered with 40 grain lead bullets from those Thunderbolts.
Just makes a pop and separates.
Lots of pampered fantasy dreamers. TeeVee watchers. Pintos don’t detonate like a 500 lb J-DAM either.
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