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Posted By: Geno67 The time has come - 01/24/24
I firmly believe The United States federal government has entered a constitutional crisis. Central authorities are unable or unwilling to defend our borders from invasion.

At this point we must ask ourselves if Texas and similarly minded Americans in other states should remain part of a federal government forsaking their well-being, safety, and security in violation of the compact under which we entered the union.
Posted By: Sasha_and_Abby Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
I'm with ya... let the liberals keep DC, NYC and the west coast...
Posted By: Gojoe Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
A truly sad day. But it's meaning has gone unnoticed by 90 percent of the population.
Posted By: Seafire Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
Most of the youth of America, doesn't feel what we feel. We grew up in one of the roughest years our nation has lived thru.
We know what Patriotism is... younger kids are taught it is a mental disease, that military veterans get.

Many kids today can't tell you the nations we fought against in WW 2 and the Cold War. They can't even tell you the time period for the American Revolution, and most have never heard of the French and Indian War, and have no idea what either one was about.

They know even less about WW 1, the Spanish American War, Korea or Vietnam.

I'd rather pass, by fighting for my country, even at our ages, then passing away in a hospital bed or nursing home of old age. Kids today think that is a mental illness...

Most of America's youth or even non military experienced people, would give up Tic Tok, when it is nothing but an open spying program on our entire nation....but you can't convince them of that whatsoever.
Posted By: Geno67 Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
Texas National Guard Responds to Supreme Court Order by Installing More Razor Wire. Good job Texas!

This is why we have a duty and responsibility to not follow illegal orders.

And the argument that the national level is above the state level does not apply in such a case, both from the legal theory that Texas can file to legally leave the union and because a national level government is destroying the national border. How is a self-destroying national level above any local level that does not want to be destroyed?

A national government melting down their own border illegally, with no authority, with no popular backing of the people, no backing of the laws, no ANYTHING....They cannot have the power and authority to issue illegal orders to a state or province to allow themselves to be overrun and destroyed.

No court can issue such orders without making itself a joke to be ignored while the obvious laws and US Constitution and Natural Right that a people have to have a border and to be secure within it.
Posted By: bluefish Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
The amount of US History my child doesn’t know shocks me. They are just not teaching it. So, on historically important days we discuss it in the truck.
Posted By: Esox357 Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
War is past due...
Posted By: jc189 Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
Originally Posted by Seafire
Most of the youth of America, doesn't feel what we feel. We grew up in one of the roughest years our nation has lived thru.
We know what Patriotism is... younger kids are taught it is a mental disease, that military veterans get.

Many kids today can't tell you the nations we fought against in WW 2 and the Cold War. They can't even tell you the time period for the American Revolution, and most have never heard of the French and Indian War, and have no idea what either one was about.

They know even less about WW 1, the Spanish American War, Korea or Vietnam.

I'd rather pass, by fighting for my country, even at our ages, then passing away in a hospital bed or nursing home of old age. Kids today think that is a mental illness...

Most of America's youth or even non military experienced people, would give up Tic Tok, when it is nothing but an open spying program on our entire nation....but you can't convince them of that whatsoever.

Good post. Very true. We have lost our youth in this Country. I fear its to late to correct this problem. The left has been brain washing our kids in the school systems around the Country for years. In most cases, right under our noses without realizing what was really happening until fairly recently. If you talk to most young men today about going into the Military when they graduate High school, the answer you get is "Why would I ever do that." It's Sad.
Posted By: Crash_Pad Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
I'm not so sure many older folks know the importance the world wars either, or why they were really fought, like saving the Bank of England in WWI; or establishing communism world wide in WWII, while destroying strong nationalist states. Forget Lincoln's War; that's settled religion.My youngest is red pilled at least, although he teaches in a "magnet school" full of woke nonsense, trannies and such. His generation was undereducated. We were miseducated on patriotic (globalist) propaganda.
Posted By: SCRUBS Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
Originally Posted by bluefish
The amount of US History my child doesn’t know shocks me. They are just not teaching it. So, on historically important days we discuss it in the truck.

Relying on public schools to raise our children is one of the main reasons this country is in the situation it is in. #societyofslowlearners
Posted By: 7mmbuster Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
Friends often tell me that, from my knowledge and love of history, I should have went to college to become a history teacher.
My standard reply is that the history that I know, I would not be allowed to teach in school.
Seems to me I read somewhere that when the government no longer fulfills the purpose of the people, the people have the right to an abolish or change said government!
Myself, I would go even further. If the government is actually destructive towards its own citizens, we would have a RESPONSIBILITY to abolish or change it!
I have said before, Heaven is full of people that I have admired all my life. I look forward to meeting them. All fought for, and some died for this land I love.
I’m afraid they might spit on me, because I have done nothing.😟
Reon
Posted By: KFWA Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
I don't think the Supreme Court ruled wrongly - the Supremacy Clause was the basis of their decision.

The issue is and will be that the federal government is not enforcing its laws, and its pretty clear why. In the future there will be no red states unless we get these people out. From a census standpoint, states get electorates based on their population and at some point these people will be given a right to vote

Protecting the border isn't enough, states have to actively get these illegals out and back to their origin country, especially red states
Posted By: Bristoe Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
Originally Posted by KFWA
I don't think the Supreme Court ruled wrongly - the Supremacy Clause was the basis of their decision.

The Supremacy Clause must be based on an established federal law--that a state cannot make a law which is contradictory to a federal law.

Is there a federal law which says that the country has to accept an unlimited number of illegal aliens?
Posted By: Bristoe Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
Basically, there's nothing in the Constitution which says that the federal government has the power to force states to allow the country to be invaded.

The federal government *should* have troops on the border providing for the common defense and general welfare of the United States--which definitely *is* one of the enumerated powers of federal government outlined in the Constitution.

Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution instructs the Legislative Branch to “provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States.”

The federal government isn't defending the border of the United States and the influx of millions of illegal aliens isn't in the interest of the general welfare of the United States.
Posted By: Stickfight Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
Originally Posted by bluefish
The amount of US History my child doesn’t know shocks me. They are just not teaching it. So, on historically important days we discuss it in the truck.

You are already doing a bit of this in the truck, thanks for that, but consider whether you have a way to cut "they" out of it entirely.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
The feds are breaking the law by not enforcing border security but that doesn't give the states the right to overturn federal law.
Posted By: Bristoe Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The feds are breaking the law by not enforcing border security but that doesn't give the states the right to overturn federal law.

What's the federal law that Texas is overturning by refusing to allow illegals into the country?
Posted By: RAM Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
Originally Posted by KFWA
I don't think the Supreme Court ruled wrongly - the Supremacy Clause was the basis of their decision.

The issue is and will be that the federal government is not enforcing its laws, and its pretty clear why. In the future there will be no red states unless we get these people out. From a census standpoint, states get electorates based on their population and at some point these people will be given a right to vote

Protecting the border isn't enough, states have to actively get these illegals out and back to their origin country, especially red states
Gotta disagree sharply Brother, Its not the States responsiblity to actively get the illegals out and back to their Country.
Its the Federal Governments responsibility to keep them out. The Feds broke the contract.
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The feds are breaking the law by not enforcing border security but that doesn't give the states the right to overturn federal law.


Yeah, lets all bow down to the almighty Biden administration...

At SOME point, common sense and sensible men will enter the conversation.

It's been a total clown show thus far.
Posted By: RiverRider Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
I've always felt that it is up to the States to hold the central government in check. The central government IS, after all, a creature of the States and it exists only by the consent of the States and under the terms of the contract we call the Constitution.

The Supreme Court, just like the rest of the central government has usurped much authority. We all seem to wait excitedly, holding our collective breath for their next decision to be handed down as though it were the Word of God. It is NOT. The States never agreed to allow the central government to define its own powers through edicts issued by SCOTUS. That would be absurd.

IMO, it's time for the states to stand together and tell the central government to pound sand, and maybe even begin to issue a general declaration of illegitimacy, or declarations of illegitimacy on specific questions.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The feds are breaking the law by not enforcing border security but that doesn't give the states the right to overturn federal law.


Yeah, lets all bow down to the almighty Biden administration...

At SOME point, common sense and sensible men will enter the conversation.

It's been a total clown show thus far.

Trouble is that all these guys drawing SS and or living the good life on cheap goods and services will most assuredly be BEHIND you all the way.

Drugs are illegal too. Hasn't slowed that down a bit.
Posted By: BwanaCat Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees. I like General Patton's statement better: Don't die for your country, make the other poor SOB die for his.

One of the best speeches ever. Just omit German and insert Globalist/Communist/Bolshevik/Fascist/Democrat.


Here is General Patton's speech to motivate the 3rd Army on the eve of the invasion of Europe:

Be seated.

Men, this stuff that some sources sling around about America wanting to stay out of this war, not wanting to fight, is a crock of bullshit.

Americans love to fight, traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win. That's why Americans have never lost nor will ever lose a war.

You are not all going to die. Only 2 percent of you right here today would be killed in a major battle. Death must not be feared. Death, in time, comes to all of us. And every man is scared in his first battle. If he says he's not, he's a goddam liar. Some men are cowards but they fight the same as the brave men or they get the hell slammed out of them watching men fight who are just as scared as they are. Remember that the enemy is just as frightened as you are, and probably more so. They are not supermen.

The real hero is the man who fights even though he's scared. Some men get over their fright in a minute under fire, others take an hour, for some It takes days, but a real man will never let his fear of death overpower his honor, his sense of duty to his country and to his manhood.

All through your army careers, you men have bitched about what you call "chickenshit drilling." That, like everything else in this army, has a definite purpose. That purpose is alertness. Alertness must be bred into every soldier. A man must be alert at all times if he expects to stay alive. If you're not alert, sometime, a German son-of-a-bitch is going to sneak up behind you and beat you to death with a sockful of [bleep]! There are four hundred neatly marked graves somewhere in Sicily, all because one man went to sleep on the job. But they are German graves, because we caught the bastard asleep.

An army is a team. It lives, sleeps, eats, and fights as a team. This individual hero stuff is a lot of horseshit. The bilious bastards who write that kind of stuff for the Saturday Evening Post don't know any more about real fighting under fire than they know about [bleep]! We have the finest food, the finest equipment, the best spirit, and the best men in the world. Why, by God, I actually pity those poor sons-of-bitches we're going up against.

My men don't surrender, and I don't want to hear of any soldier under my command being captured unless he has been hit. Even if you are hit, you can still fight back. The kind of man that I want in my command is just like the lieutenant in Libya, who, with a Luger against his chest, jerked off his helmet, swept the gun aside with one hand, and busted the hell out of the Kraut with his helmet. Then he jumped on the gun and went out and killed another German before they knew what the hell was coming off. And, all of that time, this man had a bullet through a lung. There was a real man!

Every single man in this army has a job to do and he must do it. Every man is a vital link in the great chain. What if every truck driver suddenly decided that he didn't like the whine of those shells overhead, turned yellow, and jumped headlong into a ditch? The cowardly bastard could say, "Hell, they won't miss me, just one man in thousands." But, what if every man thought that way? Where in the hell would we be now? What would our country, our loved ones, our homes, even the world, be like? No, [bleep], Americans don't think like that. Every man does his job, serves the whole. Ordnance men are needed to supply the guns and machinery of war to keep us rolling. Quartermasters are needed to bring up food and clothes because where we are going there isn't a hell of a lot to steal. Every last man on KP has a job to do, even the one who heats our water to keep us from getting the "GI [bleep]." Each man must not think only of himself, but also of his buddy fighting beside him.

One of the bravest men that I ever saw was a fellow on top of a telegraph pole in the midst of a furious firefight in Tunisia. I stopped and asked what the hell he was doing up there at a time like that, He answered, "Fixing the wire, Sir." I asked, "Isn't that a little unhealthy right about now?" He answered, "Yes, Sir, but the [bleep] wire has to be fixed." I asked, "Don't those planes strafing the road bother you?" And he answered, "No, Sir, but you sure as hell do!"

Now, there was a real man. A real soldier. There was a man who devoted all he had to his duty, no matter how seemingly insignificant his duty might appear at the time, no matter how great the odds. And you should have seen those trucks on the road to Tunisia. Those drivers were magnificent. All day and all night they rolled over those son-of-a-bitch-ing roads, never stopping, never faltering from their course, with shells bursting all around them all of the time. We got through on good old American guts. Many of those men drove for over forty consecutive hours. These men weren't combat men, but they were soldiers with a job to do. They did it, and in one hell of a way they did it. They were part of a team. Without team effort, without them, the fight would have been lost. All of the links in the chain pulled together and the chain became unbreakable.

Remember, men, you men don't know I'm here. No mention of that fact is to be made in any letters. The world is not supposed to know what the hell happened to me. I'm not supposed to be commanding this army.

I'm not even supposed to be here in England. Let the first bastards to find out be the [bleep] Germans. We want to get the hell over there. The quicker we clean up this mess, the quicker we can take a little jaunt against the Japanese and clean out their nest, too. Before the [bleep] Marines get all of the credit.

Sure, we want to go home. We want this war over with. The quickest way to get it over with is to go get the bastards who started it. The quicker they are whipped, the quicker we can go home. The shortest way home is through Berlin and Tokyo. And when we get to Berlin, I am personally going to shoot that paper-hanging son-of-a-bitch Hitler. Just like I'd shoot a snake!

When a man is lying in a shell hole, if he just stays there all day, a German will get to him eventually. The hell with that idea. The hell with taking it. My men don't dig foxholes. I don't want them to. Foxholes only slow up an offensive. Keep moving. And don't give the enemy time to dig one either. We'll win this war, but we'll win it only by fighting and by showing the Germans that we've got more guts than they have; or ever will have.

War is a bloody, killing business. You've got to spill their blood, or they will spill yours. Rip them up the belly. Shoot them in the guts. When shells are hitting all around you and you wipe the dirt off your face and realize that instead of dirt it's the blood and guts of what once was your best friend beside you, you'll know what to do!

I don't want to get any messages saying, "I am holding my position." We are not holding a [bleep] thing. Let the Germans do that. We are advancing constantly, and we are not interested in holding on to anything, except the enemy's balls. We are going to twist his balls and kick the living [bleep] out of him all of the time. Our basic plan of operation is to advance and to keep on advancing regardless of whether we have to go over, under, or through the enemy.

From time to time there will be some complaints that we are pushing our people too hard. I don't give a good [bleep] about such complaints. I believe in the old and sound rule that an ounce of sweat will save a gallon of blood. The harder we push, the more Germans we will kill. The more Germans we kill, the fewer of our men will be killed. Pushing means fewer casualties. I want you all to remember that.

There is one great thing that you men will all be able to say after this war is over and you are home once again. You may be thankful that twenty years from now, when you are sitting by the fireplace with your grandson on your knee and he asks you what you did in the great World War II, you won't have to shift him to the other knee, cough, and say, "Well, your granddaddy shoveled [bleep] in Louisiana." No, sir, you can look him straight in the eye and say, "Son, your granddaddy rode with the Great Third Army and a son-of-a-[bleep]-bitch named Georgie Patton!"

That is all.
Posted By: Redneck Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
Originally Posted by Seafire
Most of the youth of America, doesn't feel what we feel. We grew up in one of the roughest years our nation has lived thru.
We know what Patriotism is... younger kids are taught it is a mental disease, that military veterans get.

Many kids today can't tell you the nations we fought against in WW 2 and the Cold War. They can't even tell you the time period for the American Revolution, and most have never heard of the French and Indian War, and have no idea what either one was about.

They know even less about WW 1, the Spanish American War, Korea or Vietnam.

I'd rather pass, by fighting for my country, even at our ages, then passing away in a hospital bed or nursing home of old age. Kids today think that is a mental illness...

Most of America's youth or even non military experienced people, would give up Tic Tok, when it is nothing but an open spying program on our entire nation....but you can't convince them of that whatsoever.
Well-said sir... Well-said!
Posted By: Geno67 Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
I'm not advocating for war even though the federal government, through the SC, openly declared war on Texas. I'm advocating for a peaceful secession.

So long as we are tied to the feds they can use monetary warfare, lawfare and all kinds of federal agencies to punish us for dissent. Better to secede. It also negates all legal responsibilities to the 240+ trillion debt the feds have racked up. Stand back and watch the blue states implode.

It would look like this at first but 25 of the states have sent support to TX so it would be more than half the states as a new republic after everything shakes out.



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Posted By: shrapnel Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
Mayorkas has his tit in ringer…





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Posted By: rainshot Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
What Texas is finally doing should’ve been done and with more enthusiasm three years ago. It will come down to whether the administration is willing to fight on their principles or not.
If it comes down to war; so be it. One of us gotta have some relief.
Posted By: Upperplainsman Re: The time has come - 01/24/24
On yesterday's Bongino show on Rumble he showed the page of the constitution that actually says each individual state must be defended from invasion.
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